After 3 months shes gone cold

[wonderer]

Imitation will fvck up many opportunities, in game or life in general you should be fluid and learn to read and interpret the signs girls send and then you act on it. treating girls the same have some advantages but it also have some disadvantages. people psychology differ and gaming is no more than understanding the human psychology and using that to your advantage. you seem to not enjoying the play of gaming and dating and that will be a big obstacle because you ain't having fun dude and if you are gaming like it's some kind of a job process thing then that's not how this thing works.

now forget the rules, guidelines and whatever. with younger girls you need suspense, sexual tension, adventure and above all fun, and it's perfect for you too because you never get old.

anyway I don't know if you can salvage this but as a note try to stop have the attitude of just wanting girls for sex: some will use that as a power play and they will mess up your mind and resources and there are a lot of fvcked up chicks out there, again suspense and sexual tension is a weapon you should use especially when you are after a sex but you send the signals that you ain't after it.

plan something, a walk, a bowling thing, a hiking but don't kiss her, eye fvck her, touch her, get closer as you are going to kiss her and then pull away and go on doing something else. while having some texting convo; be engaged and after some minutes disappear, when she asks or suggests commitments say "oh this is bad " "**** this again" and then ghost for a few hours and the when you reengage tell her to meet in a place...etc/

enjoy the game man, don't look separate the ends and means, make the means and ends as one, game for gaming's sake.

but that's just me. if that's not your style then find your style but you haven't gamed that chick at all but she gamed you hard because of LMRs and now you are posting here continually about her.

there are many ways that you can get her back begging but it depends on the girl...can she sees you with other girls? does she get jealous? is she needy? what she likes about you? is she clingy? is she possessive?...etc. ask yourself these questions and remember that the biggest need of humans is to be needed; the whole social medias is based on that and attention and validation and ego inflation comes as just a byproducts of that needing instinct.

when you find answers to the above questions and see what values she evaluate and what values you offer; you can use that but you have to think for yourself and act on that but more importantly have fun with it and drop that neediness. take a week and use that time on other things, don't think about her, go cold approaching, read books, do some online gaming and go on some dates, and after that week play with her again but just see it as playing not a means to an end and you will have a different flavor with it.

this was long but i hope you get something out of it, if not for this one, maybe for the next ones.

Thanks for your reply man, I do see this girl as different to my other plates for so many reasons. Ive tried what worked on her in the past and been completely honest about my feelings and put everything on the line. Im not expecting much but we'll see.

In terms of gaming I did game her, I didnt text her for 3 days and left her hanging after things were great, I think this was my downfall. she was not responsive after that.

 

[dude99]

Update

I tried to call her this evening as I wanted to ask her out, this was my final see as to what was going on. I called, no answer, the text conversation then goes like this:

Her: did you call me?
Me: yeah, are you free to talk?
Her: not today
Me: Thats okay! im just leaving for london now anyway
Me: does ghost (nickname) want to meet cactus (nickname) for coffee soon?
Her Then piss off

Im done now. She disrespected me too. Im glad that she told me to piss off because now I know exactly where I stand.

Still so confusing as to why the complete change. Few things I can think of:

• The mum (even if this wast he case surely thered still be feelings)
  
• me going NC for days when things were good, although our texting was sporadic anyway
  
• Me pushing for sex, I was very close, her getting scared about it all
• Me never doing anything nice for her, no gifts or anything, this wouldve gone back to the mum, I was using the no gifts before sex rule, it was 3 months
• I dont think there was enough re-assurance / comfort for this virgin

Im going NC. Maybe ill call her in the future, this is one volatile, emotional girl. Also not sure if this important but she has daddy issues - her and her dad arent on speaking terms and always argue, her and her mum are very close

Stop wasting your time. You know what calling her will get you. Nothing.

 

[Tenacity]

In terms of gaming I did game her, I didnt text her for 3 days and left her hanging after things were great, I think this was my downfall. she was not responsive after that.

Yes, it was your downfall. Let me share some more insights with you in relation to not just this situation, but the entire Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming bullshyt in general. I'm going to be 100% honest.

- The Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming community are 98% anonymous guys who do not show their face, their fitness progression, ANY women they are dating/previously dated, or anything in relation to that. So you have no actual proof of anything that they claim to "work", actually working.

- What they have is a collection of theories and religious like "mantras" that they program every guy in the community to follow. Such as 3 second rules, don't call/text for 3 - 5 days after getting a number, always spin plates, never show weakness, if she doesn't fvck on the first date dump her, women are all out to get you in Family Court, etc., etc.

- All of these theories get programmed into a guy and he leaves the community to go out in the field to put them into use. Then REALITY hits him....that 98% of the bullshyt doesn't work. For example, waiting to call a chick 3 days after getting her number, will more than likely have her forgetting who the hell you are or thinking you are full of shyt/playing games.

- The honest truth is that NONE of these Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming techniques are designed to get women....they are instead designed to make these anonymous guys who have NO LIFE outside of this community (which is why they never show it), feel BETTER about themselves by creating online fame/online following. In other words, THEY create the mantras, program guys to believe the mantras are true, and as a result the programmed guys who believe the mantras will begin to "worship" the guy who created them or who regurgitates them often.

What am I saying in a nutshell? I'm saying that 98% of the Manosphere is bullshyt and has nothing to do with helping you succeed with women....and ALL about helping some broke, lazy, loser anonymous guy on the internet create an online following/online fame.

Why am I here? Because I've networked with a couple of people here and I'm interested in helping them along their progression. In addition, I want to try to help as many guys as possible not FALL into the bullshyt Manosphere shyt that's preached on here 98% of the time........which does NOTHING to help you get decent women...but does EVERYTHING to help you lose them.

 

[Juanto]

Yes, it was your downfall. Let me share some more insights with you in relation to not just this situation, but the entire Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming bullshyt in general. I'm going to be 100% honest.

- The Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming community are 98% anonymous guys who do not show their face, their fitness progression, ANY women they are dating/previously dated, or anything in relation to that. So you have no actual proof of anything that they claim to "work", actually working.

- What they have is a collection of theories and religious like "mantras" that they program every guy in the community to follow. Such as 3 second rules, don't call/text for 3 - 5 days after getting a number, always spin plates, never show weakness, if she doesn't fvck on the first date dump her, women are all out to get you in Family Court, etc., etc.

- All of these theories get programmed into a guy and he leaves the community to go out in the field to put them into use. Then REALITY hits him....that 98% of the bullshyt doesn't work. For example, waiting to call a chick 3 days after getting her number, will more than likely have her forgetting who the hell you are or thinking you are full of shyt/playing games.

- The honest truth is that NONE of these Manosphere/Seduction/Gaming techniques are designed to get women....they are instead designed to make these anonymous guys who have NO LIFE outside of this community (which is why they never show it), feel BETTER about themselves by creating online fame/online following. In other words, THEY create the mantras, program guys to believe the mantras are true, and as a result the programmed guys who believe the mantras will begin to "worship" the guy who created them or who regurgitates them often.

What am I saying in a nutshell? I'm saying that 98% of the Manosphere is bullshyt and has nothing to do with helping you succeed with women....and ALL about helping some broke, lazy, loser anonymous guy on the internet create an online following/online fame.

Why am I here? Because I've networked with a couple of people here and I'm interested in helping them along their progression. In addition, I want to try to help as many guys as possible not FALL into the bullshyt Manosphere shyt that's preached on here 98% of the time........which does NOTHING to help you get decent women...but does EVERYTHING to help you lose them.

Respectfully disagree. Alot of the stuff that the good posters write ARE good advices, that of course have to be tailored to each situation and to each one of us. The general guidelines that people leave are very useful, as long as you dont take every single one to the letter. But things you mentioned like not acting needy, to have options in our lifes (plates), to not waste time making a move, ARE good general guidelines and they do improve our lifes.

Just my 2 cents from my experience

 

[Tenacity]

Respectfully disagree. Alot of the stuff that the good posters write ARE good advices, that of course have to be tailored to each situation and to each one of us. The general guidelines that people leave are very useful, as long as you dont take every single one to the letter. But things you mentioned like not acting needy, to have options in our lifes (plates), to not waste time making a move, ARE good general guidelines and they do improve our lifes.

Just my 2 cents from my experience

I agree with you a lot of your points, but I'll give you a good analogy of what the Manosphere is like.

It's like going to an AA meeting to try and "cure your problem of being an alcoholic", but while at the AA meeting, everybody is sitting around drinking Jack Daniels. In other words, your alcoholic problem BECOMES WORSE.

A guy comes to the Manosphere with women problems. But these problems could be something basic such as just meeting the wrong types of women, or maybe the guy doesn't believe in himself and is too shy to talk to women.

But while here, he's going to be indoctrinated with various one-dimensional theories on women (i.e., the Red Pill) that, quite frankly, paint women out to be complete and utter DEVILS. This builds mistrust and other negative emotions towards women at-large within the guy, and based on said mistrust, he learns all of the tips/techniques taught by the Manosphere in order to "properly deal with the DEVIL".

What happens is that his original women problems get worse, not better, because if you are now indoctrinated with bullshyt Red Pill theories, it will change the way you SEE women, which disables you to ever trust them. And how can you ever find true love, happiness, peace, or enjoyment with ANYONE that you can't trust??

The guy would be going through extreme bouts of cognitive dissonance, where his internal BEING wants to be with/commit to/be spiritually intimate with a woman (because it's the natural order of things) but the Manosphere indoctrination says you can't trust women so thus, an internal battle harvests within the guy.

How do I know? Because I went through this very same shyt lol.

 

[btownbuck2012]

I agree with you a lot of your points, but I'll give you a good analogy of what the Manosphere is like.

It's like going to an AA meeting to try and "cure your problem of being an alcoholic", but while at the AA meeting, everybody is sitting around drinking Jack Daniels. In other words, your alcoholic problem BECOMES WORSE.

A guy comes to the Manosphere with women problems. But these problems could be something basic such as just meeting the wrong types of women, or maybe the guy doesn't believe in himself and is too shy to talk to women.

But while here, he's going to be indoctrinated with various one-dimensional theories on women (i.e., the Red Pill) that, quite frankly, paint women out to be complete and utter DEVILS. This builds mistrust and other negative emotions towards women at-large within the guy, and based on said mistrust, he learns all of the tips/techniques taught by the Manosphere in order to "properly deal with the DEVIL".

What happens is that his original women problems get worse, not better, because if you are now indoctrinated with bullshyt Red Pill theories, it will change the way you SEE women, which disables you to ever trust them. And how can you ever find true love, happiness, peace, or enjoyment with ANYONE that you can't trust??

The guy would be going through extreme bouts of cognitive dissonance, where his internal BEING wants to be with/commit to/be spiritually intimate with a woman (because it's the natural order of things) but the Manosphere indoctrination says you can't trust women so thus, an internal battle harvests within the guy.

How do I know? Because I went through this very same shyt lol.

Can you elaborate a bit on this? The reason I ask is because this is exactly where I'm at in my life. I am unable to trust women because of all the stuff I've read on the Red Pill. Don't get me wrong, I definitely think it's useful and certainly isn't all bad, but it would definitely be helpful to hear how you got yourself out of that way of thinking into this, what appears to be, more peaceful time in your life.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Meet women you like, and be open and honest with them. Like people, like women.

The manosphere is a buffet, take what you like. You are not being forced to think anything. You don't have to wear a stupid hat, date multiple women, lift weights or be a caveman if you don't want to.

If you are going to take anything from places like this, self-improvement is a good thing, going to the gym is not a bad idea, YOU have power in whatever relationship you are in, women like confident sexual men, and be proud of being a man.

Love is awesome (or a kick in the nuts) , some women are amazing and fun, so be open to the possibility. Some women are not so judge women by their actions and trust your instincts a little.

Many men on here have been deeply hurt and don't want to risk being hurt again so will argue for multiple shallow relationships. If you don't like the idea of that don't do it.
Same goes for celibacy (mgtow) or long term relationships.

You can choose. That is the most important message on the Manosphere. YOU CAN CHOOSE HOW YOU WANT TO LIVE YOUR LIFE.

 

[wonderer]

Update -

I think there's another guy in the picture. She posted on social media a photo of her with a guy laying in her arms with a love heart. Someone else took the photo and it was uploaded at 3am...

I'm honestly shocked, I met her the very day she landed to England, it was hard graft, 3rd date until the kiss, no sex after 3 months, she is extremely reserved. Did she get presents for him too two weeks ago from Russia? Did he push for exclusivity? Was he nicer to her and had clearer intentions of not just sex? Don't get me wrong, I did say nice things to her, I did treat her to dinner and I was vulnerable at times saying I did like her and gave her that re-assurance, but I made sure it was few and far between.

Maybe they'll get bored of each other and she'll come back to me, who knows, I'm not holding my breath.

Guys im open to criticism in what I could've done differently and your views, but please don't call me stupid, Ill simply leave the forum if I get bullying like that. I want to improve and this is a community of help, let me know what to do differently for next time.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Update -

I think there's another guy in the picture. She posted on social media a photo of her with a guy laying in her arms with a love heart. Someone else took the photo and it was uploaded at 3am...

I'm honestly shocked, I met her the very day she landed to England, it was hard graft, 3rd date until the kiss, no sex after 3 months, she is extremely reserved. Did she get presents for him too two weeks ago from Russia? Did he push for exclusivity? Was he nicer to her and had clearer intentions of not just sex? Don't get me wrong, I did say nice things to her, I did treat her to dinner and I was vulnerable at times saying I did like her and gave her that re-assurance, but I made sure it was few and far between.

Maybe they'll get bored of each other and she'll come back to me, who knows, I'm not holding my breath.

Guys im open to criticism in what I could've done differently and your views, but please don't call me stupid, Ill simply leave the forum if I get bullying like that. I want to improve and this is a community of help, let me know what to do differently for next time.

And there it is....
see my previous comment in this thread.

 

[Tenacity]

Can you elaborate a bit on this? The reason I ask is because this is exactly where I'm at in my life. I am unable to trust women because of all the stuff I've read on the Red Pill. Don't get me wrong, I definitely think it's useful and certainly isn't all bad, but it would definitely be helpful to hear how you got yourself out of that way of thinking into this, what appears to be, more peaceful time in your life.

Yes, when I came to the forums about 2 years ago....I was mainly looking to network with guys because the forum presently itself as a "total self improvement" aspect that focused not just on women, but financial health, fitness, etc. The guys in the fitness section like Espi, etc., really helped me out with my fitness progression.

- But in relation to women, I came here having "women problems" in relation to not meeting the specific TYPE of woman I was looking for. I kept getting women with kids, thug baby daddies, bad finances, etc. So my early days here was spent ranting and being VERY angry about just how bad the market was.

- But the Manosphere took this problem and made it worse, because I then began to read more theories and watch Mansophere/MGTOW related videos........then I started to grow just an even BIGGER hatred for women in general internally. Like I had anger issues before, but this was going above and beyond.

- How did I come out of it? I went back to fix my original "women problems" and started to FILTER for better targets and not waste time with chicks with kids or who even APPEARED to be thug-worshippers. My career schedule is tighter anyway, so I don't even have time to spin plates of low quality chicks anymore.

- Then, I started to look more into WHO were behind the Manosphere/MGTOW related theories, and that's how I've gotten to my current commentary about the anonymous, broke, lazy, fvck-tards who I honestly believe represent over 90% of the Manosphere. They make up theories on women (Red Pill) solely to build up an online fame or following, knowing damn well most of the shyt they are saying is bullshyt and way too generalistic.

It's WHY they never show their face. I understand this site might rub some people in Middle America the wrong way, but come on? Social Justice Warriors don't hide, they run around talking about the white man this, the white man that, oppression this, oppression that....and their employment, careers, etc., is never under jeopardy. But for some reason, a group of guys getting together to discuss, bytch, and analyze women is so controversial? An SJW can openly hate white people and the white man especially, but a guy can't say some foul shyt about a bytch who ripped him off?

I still don't buy that argument. I'm on Facebook all the time and see FAR WORSE shyt posted there than I see posted here. I believe that argument is just another excuse used that allows these guys to hide behind usernames, spit out bullshyt theories, and build some type of online following without having to prove they are living the ALPHA lifestyles they claim to be.

I took my picture down after a year and a half because I'm like.......fvck it......if nobody else is going to put their picture up then I'm not leaving my picture up.

 

[Roober]

Yes, when I came to the forums about 2 years ago....I was mainly looking to network with guys because the forum presently itself as a "total self improvement" aspect that focused not just on women, but financial health, fitness, etc. The guys in the fitness section like Espi, etc., really helped me out with my fitness progression.

- But in relation to women, I came here having "women problems" in relation to not meeting the specific TYPE of woman I was looking for. I kept getting women with kids, thug baby daddies, bad finances, etc. So my early days here was spent ranting and being VERY angry about just how bad the market was.

- But the Manosphere took this problem and made it worse, because I then began to read more theories and watch Mansophere/MGTOW related videos........then I started to grow just an even BIGGER hatred for women in general internally. Like I had anger issues before, but this was going above and beyond.

- How did I come out of it? I went back to fix my original "women problems" and started to FILTER for better targets and not waste time with chicks with kids or who even APPEARED to be thug-worshippers. My career schedule is tighter anyway, so I don't even have time to spin plates of low quality chicks anymore.

- Then, I started to look more into WHO were behind the Manosphere/MGTOW related theories, and that's how I've gotten to my current commentary about the anonymous, broke, lazy, fvck-tards who I honestly believe represent over 90% of the Manosphere. They make up theories on women (Red Pill) solely to build up an online fame or following, knowing damn well most of the shyt they are saying is bullshyt and way too generalistic.

It's WHY they never show their face. I understand this site might rub some people in Middle America the wrong way, but come on? Social Justice Warriors don't hide, they run around talking about the white man this, the white man that, oppression this, oppression that....and their employment, careers, etc., is never under jeopardy. But for some reason, a group of guys getting together to discuss, bytch, and analyze women is so controversial? An SJW can openly hate white people and the white man especially, but a guy can't say some foul shyt about a bytch who ripped him off?

I still don't buy that argument. I'm on Facebook all the time and see FAR WORSE shyt posted there than I see posted here. I believe that argument is just another excuse used that allows these guys to hide behind usernames, spit out bullshyt theories, and build some type of online following without having to prove they are living the ALPHA lifestyles they claim to be.

I took my picture down after a year and a half because I'm like.......fvck it......if nobody else is going to put their picture up then I'm not leaving my picture up.

After only being here a couple weeks, I have multiple opinions on your thoughts. And I think it really depends on what men are looking for. Some are perfectly okay spinning plates, staying single, etc etc. Others want to find the love of their life and have a fullfilling relationship. I believe the latter is the reason for the forum, the dj bible, etc. The main problem is the men in general think in very black and white terms, so they end up using "guidelines" as a way of doing things.

For example, waiting to call a girl for 3 days after getting a number. Or even keeping texting to a bare minimum. Or being a challenge. Or any of the other plethora of items that we hear. Most high quality women will just see that as playing games. Low quality women will think it's fun and exciting, and be happy to be your plate. And I am not talking about looks either. In my example, when I came here, my relationship was already over, she had checked out about a month prior. I started applying some things here about being distant, etc. and it generally seemed to upset her.

What I am getting at is there are good guidelines here, but you have to use them to what works for you. Once in a relationship, some of that stuff will just get thrown out the window. For example, if you ignore a girlfriend for 3 days, she is likely not going to stick around if she knows her worth.

 

[wonderer]

Update -

She sent me a message: I’m upset about you, in my opinion the relationship cannot continue. Ps you should hold your tounge when you talk to me.

Her grammar isn’t great, and I wanted to speak to her on the phone, she wouldn’t pick up, I said call me because I don’t understand.

She said: im trying to say I don’t want to talk anymore, so you can continue to sleep with your “crown” on your head.

I didn’t respond, a few hours later I get a : you are a beggar who costs nothing. She was twisting when I used to call myself a king against me, she did used to laugh at these jokes of mine.

I thought maybe also she wanted to hear was an apology so I said sorry again. She then said: and I have news for you, I have another man. Shes not lying, I saw a pic on her social media with him.

I then said ok, and then put my heart on the line again, said the last 4 months weren’t a joke and so on, Ive had no response since yesterday. I also ordered some flowers for her before the argument yesterday which arrive tomorrow. My take on the situation is that she thought I didn’t care enough about her.

 

[wonderer]

What I am getting at is there are good guidelines here, but you have to use them to what works for you. Once in a relationship, some of that stuff will just get thrown out the window. For example, if you ignore a girlfriend for 3 days, she is likely not going to stick around if she knows her worth.

Anything couldve hapepened to me in those 3 days? We didnt text every day, she didnt text me in those 3 days either, I didnt ignore, there was no conversation about it, she just went cold, and now crazy going mad with abuse and trying to hurt me talking about another guy she now as.

 

[Roober]

Update -

She sent me a message: I’m upset about you, in my opinion the relationship cannot continue. Ps you should hold your tounge when you talk to me.

Her grammar isn’t great, and I wanted to speak to her on the phone, she wouldn’t pick up, I said call me because I don’t understand.

She said: im trying to say I don’t want to talk anymore, so you can continue to sleep with your “crown” on your head.

I didn’t respond, a few hours later I get a : you are a beggar who costs nothing. She was twisting when I used to call myself a king against me, she did used to laugh at these jokes of mine.

I thought maybe also she wanted to hear was an apology so I said sorry again. She then said: and I have news for you, I have another man. Shes not lying, I saw a pic on her social media with him.

I then said ok, and then put my heart on the line again, said the last 4 months weren’t a joke and so on, Ive had no response since yesterday. I also ordered some flowers for her before the argument yesterday which arrive tomorrow. My take on the situation is that she thought I didn’t care enough about her.

Should have said "i agree and good luck" to that first message. It is as clear as day.

NO MORE RESPONSES! block her phone number if she continues to antagonize you. She will still think you are getting the texts. Oh an cancel those dammmm flowers!!!!!

Anything couldve hapepened to me in those 3 days? We didnt text every day, she didnt text me in those 3 days either, I didnt ignore, there was no conversation about it, she just went cold, and now crazy going mad with abuse and trying to hurt me talking about another guy she now as.

When your in a relationship, she should not be ghosting for 3 days. Trust me, it's a sign... You are essentially convincing her she made the right decision with the constant replies.

time to go complete no contact! Remove and block her from EVERYTHING, or just uninstall from your phone.

 

[wonderer]

Should have said "i agree and good luck" to that first message. It is as clear as day.

NO MORE RESPONSES! block her phone number if she continues to antagonize you. She will still think you are getting the texts. Oh an cancel those dammmm flowers!!!!!



When your in a relationship, she should not be ghosting for 3 days. Trust me, it's a sign... You are essentially convincing her she made the right decision with the constant replies.

time to go complete no contact! Remove and block her from EVERYTHING, or just uninstall from your phone.

She beat me to it, I'm blocked. Did I really mess up that badly for all this to happen? Mustve if she was giving me abuse? She wouldve just ghosted if it was the guy. she is an unstable kid and would not talk about things, I had no idea anything was wrong, she is not forgiving.

Are we agreed she is a mentalist? Or as some people have said in this thread I am stupid and messed up by not giving her attention after our last date. These last messages are horrendous, she is trying to hurt me.

 

[Roober]

She beat me to it, I'm blocked. Did I really mess up that badly for all this to happen? Mustve if she was giving me abuse? She wouldve just ghosted if it was the guy. she is an unstable kid and would not talk about things, I had no idea anything was wrong, she is not forgiving.

Are we agreed she is a mentalist? Or as some people have said in this thread I am stupid and messed up by not giving her attention after our last date. These last messages are horrendous, she is trying to hurt me.

Block her too! I am willing to bet she will reach out again. She loves the attention and will come back for it at some point. I belive other guys have said this, that you need to work on yourself. Don't place all the blame on her.

Get in the no contact challenge thread and enter "Day 1..."

 

[Dingo]

Update -

I think there's another guy in the picture. She posted on social media a photo of her with a guy laying in her arms with a love heart.

You THINK ?

 

[dude99]

Update -

She sent me a message: I’m upset about you, in my opinion the relationship cannot continue. Ps you should hold your tounge when you talk to me.

Her grammar isn’t great, and I wanted to speak to her on the phone, she wouldn’t pick up, I said call me because I don’t understand.

She said: im trying to say I don’t want to talk anymore, so you can continue to sleep with your “crown” on your head.

I didn’t respond, a few hours later I get a : you are a beggar who costs nothing. She was twisting when I used to call myself a king against me, she did used to laugh at these jokes of mine.

I thought maybe also she wanted to hear was an apology so I said sorry again. She then said: and I have news for you, I have another man. Shes not lying, I saw a pic on her social media with him.

I then said ok, and then put my heart on the line again, said the last 4 months weren’t a joke and so on, Ive had no response since yesterday. I also ordered some flowers for her before the argument yesterday which arrive tomorrow. My take on the situation is that she thought I didn’t care enough about her.

Dude she is 18. Last Saturday i told you callingher would be a waste of your time and she is telling you there is another guyin the picture and you are still pouring your heart out to her.

18. Too immature. She road blocked you when you were with her. She isn't interested. Stop wasting your time. She isn't interested. She is telling you there is another guy. She isn't interested. She won't pick up the phone. She isn't interested. She is now disrespecting you. She isn't interested.

Trying anything else is just humiliating yourself. Next her once and for all.

 

[dude99]

She beat me to it, I'm blocked. Did I really mess up that badly for all this to happen? Mustve if she was giving me abuse? She wouldve just ghosted if it was the guy. she is an unstable kid and would not talk about things, I had no idea anything was wrong, she is not forgiving.

Are we agreed she is a mentalist? Or as some people have said in this thread I am stupid and messed up by not giving her attention after our last date. These last messages are horrendous, she is trying to hurt me.

Well now that you are blocked now go meet new women.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well now that you are blocked now go meet new women.

This is your only choice. She did you a favor.