Affirmative Action Gone wild

[Stagger Lee]

Ex-gang member gets back six-figure Illinois prisons post

http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/7/71/279201/ex-gang-member-gets-back-six-figure-illinois-prisons-post

A former gang member with a long arrest record who has been fired twice from state jobs over lewd emails and “inconsistencies” in his job applications has been reinstated to a six-figure post with the Illinois state prison system.

Xadrian R. McCraven, 45, was returned to his $111,432-a-year job as a senior policy adviser with the Illinois Department of Corrections on Dec. 22...

Corrections officials fired McCraven in January 2014 after reports in the Chicago Sun-Times that he had been arrested dozens of times and been fired in 2012 from a previous job with the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services. McCraven admitted he was a member of the Young Latino Organization Disciples — a Humboldt Park street gang — between June 1987 and July 1989...

 

[Jaylan]

I dont see what affirmative action has to do with this.

Its all about clout and politics. There are a lot of politicians, advisers, bankers, execs, people with power, etc with shady pasts and arrest records. They all cover each other's backs.

This is just an example of how if you know the right people or have power, you can get away with crap in society. You've presented an example of a minority getting away with shady stuff, and somehow its now affirmative action gone wild? What about the numerous examples of white men with power scamming the system, and having criminal histories, yet still getting good jobs later or not being sent to jail. Be serious here.

 

[Fatal Jay]

All I can do is sit back and laugh at this guy and his topics he post lol.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I dont see what affirmative action has to do with this.

Its all about clout and politics.

Of course you don't see. You're not a non-affirmative action person and don't understand that a white guy could never gotten these jobs and retained them with such a dismal criminal and employment record. Affirmative action is clout in politics.

 

[Stagger Lee]

All I can do is sit back and laugh at this guy and his topics he post lol.

It's not my topic, it's a news story. You should be laughing at or rather upset at the people in the news story.

 

[Jaylan]

It's not my topic, it's a news story. You should be laughing at or rather upset at the people in the news story.

The story says nothing about affirmative action

Of course you don't see. You're not a non-affirmative action person and don't understand that a white guy could never gotten these jobs and retained them with such a dismal criminal and employment record. Affirmative action is clout in politics.

You must not pay attention to the criminal history and employment records of many white bankers, executives, and politicians.

This story has nothing to do with color and everything to do with corruption and knowing the right people.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Another One of So Suave Racists Posts

The moderators need to get together and figure out what their going to do with the none white supremacists and racists that dominate this forum. About this time lat year there was a massive house cleaning for whatever reason, but I as I said before the white supremacists and racists are allowed to roam free and post this bullsh*t.

This has nothing to do with affirmative action, but more with the fact that Illinois is the most corrupt state in the union. 4 of Illinois past 7 governors are in jail, but this stupid muthaf*cka is over here talking some affirmative action bullsh*t.

4 of Illinois' last 7 governors went to prison
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/20803102/4-of-illinois-last-7-governors-went-to-prison

Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:56 PM EST
Updated: Jul 16, 2013 7:56 PM EDT


Associated Press -
Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan will be leaving prison and heading to a halfway house after serving more than five years for corruption. His departure from prison follows a rich, if ignominious, history in Illinois of ex-governors arriving in and departing from prison.

Of Illinois' last seven governors, four have ended up going to prison. They are:

--Rod Blagojevich -- Governor from 2002 through 2009, when he became the first Illinois governor in history to be impeached. Convicted of numerous corruption charges in 2011, including allegations that he tried to sell or trade President Barack Obama's old Senate seat.

-- George Ryan -- Governor from 1999 through 2003. After leaving office, was convicted of racketeering for actions as governor and secretary of state. In November 2007, began serving a 6 1/2 year sentence in federal prison.

-- Dan Walker -- Governor from 1973-1977. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud and other charges in 1987 related to his business activities after leaving office. Spent about a year and a half in federal prison.

-- Otto Kerner -- Governor from 1961-1968. Resigned to become judge, then was convicted of bribery related to his tenure as governor. Sentenced to three years in prison.

 

[Embers84]

Just goes to show you how much ignorance these racist right wingers like Stagger Lee has. Never seen so many men so obsessed over trivial bullsh1t before. They see a black guy and automatically assume it's "Affirmative Action". Sadly, the right wing media will pick up on it and twist it into a racial media feeding frenzy about how the black man is coming to take your jobs.

Just laugh at these imbeciles who post this crap and embarrass them. Maybe they will finally stop with their propaganda they are pushing. It's obvious they aren't getting laid and not enjoying their lives at all holding all this anger towards minorities, liberals, and women.

I'm sure ( . ) ( . ) will be responding very soon with a lame post peppered full of right wing buzz and shaming words for us. They are fun to laugh at.

 

[( . )( . )]

I'm sure ( . ) ( . ) will be responding very soon with a lame post

Still raging I proved in less than 4 lines there hasn't been legitimate conservative MSM in the U.S for at least 40 years I see :cuss:

buzz and shaming words for us.

ignorance

racist right wingers

Heh. Did you just inadvertently own yourself by peppering your own shill post with leftoid buzzwords?

minorities, liberals, and women.

"liberals" is redundant in that sentence. Statistically it's majority non-whites and women on the gibsmedat train. You were right to leave out white men, as a general rule they don't vote for the gibs and increasing the size of big daddy alpha gov.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/where-to-find-americas-biggest-white-pussies/

 

[backbreaker]

The moderators need to get together and figure out what their going to do with the none white supremacists and racists that dominate this forum. About this time lat year there was a massive house cleaning for whatever reason, but I as I said before the white supremacists and racists are allowed to roam free and post this bullsh*t.

This has nothing to do with affirmative action, but more with the fact that Illinois is the most corrupt state in the union. 4 of Illinois past 7 governors are in jail, but this stupid muthaf*cka is over here talking some affirmative action bullsh*t.

4 of Illinois' last 7 governors went to prison
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/20803102/4-of-illinois-last-7-governors-went-to-prison

Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:56 PM EST
Updated: Jul 16, 2013 7:56 PM EDT


Associated Press -
Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan will be leaving prison and heading to a halfway house after serving more than five years for corruption. His departure from prison follows a rich, if ignominious, history in Illinois of ex-governors arriving in and departing from prison.

Of Illinois' last seven governors, four have ended up going to prison. They are:

--Rod Blagojevich -- Governor from 2002 through 2009, when he became the first Illinois governor in history to be impeached. Convicted of numerous corruption charges in 2011, including allegations that he tried to sell or trade President Barack Obama's old Senate seat.

-- George Ryan -- Governor from 1999 through 2003. After leaving office, was convicted of racketeering for actions as governor and secretary of state. In November 2007, began serving a 6 1/2 year sentence in federal prison.

-- Dan Walker -- Governor from 1973-1977. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud and other charges in 1987 related to his business activities after leaving office. Spent about a year and a half in federal prison.

-- Otto Kerner -- Governor from 1961-1968. Resigned to become judge, then was convicted of bribery related to his tenure as governor. Sentenced to three years in prison.

i figured out quite a while ago that the mods are lock step in line with the website's "message". This website is basically stormfront jr. Which is quite sad. The MM section isn't as bad but the rest of the forum is pretty pathetic.

Then this thread will go on for 5 pages, then someone will come in, like the prison guard at a prison who comes in 10 minutes after the inmate gotten his ass whipped by everyone in the cell block and "break up the fight" lol by closing the thread but not after 10 pages of white power, black people are ignorant, whatever else gets tossed around


But I must beg the question... If you know that Stagger and tits and whoever else are going to start threads posting bull****, and you know whatever you are going to say is never ever EVER going to make a dent into any argument... you act like tits is gonna read your carefully thought out post and say "damn, I didn't think of that, he has a point" lol and you know that this forum has become the wild west in regards to race relations... I have to ask, why are you still responding lol? Why do you even bother? Why do you let it get to you at all?


I mean, I don't know about you but I'm from the south. I've seen "real live" racism before lol. WTF do you look like getting riled up by a biggot posting internet links for?


Furthermore, the sole reason they do it, is not to prove a point or to prove that blacks are inferior or anything like that, they do it because they know it gets to you and they get off on it. Regardless of how ****ty their life is, regardless of how bad their day is going, people like that know that they can come here, and take the "upper hand" by posting **** to rile people like you up, and you give it to them, time and time again.


Mods aren't going to take a more active role in policing race threads becuase controversy brings page hits which is all they care about. The OP is too ignorant to be a better poster, so it's up to you to be the bigger man. Don't make it a controversy.


I'm afraid that the racist are stuck in the trees and not seeing the forest. No one will ever, ever take you seriously if you're the party of inclusion. If you're for men's right's that's one thing. If you're basically just white christian versions of Muslim who hate everything note white and male lol, you will get laughed off every forum, laughed out of every room you ever go into. Which is sad becuase this site, the manosphere and the TRP all have very important points that people of all races and religions need to be aware of.


The more I think about it, the more I think it's interesting the fork in the road that the manosphere took becuase it wasn't always like this.

It went from hey let's try to get women

to the world is not what you think it is

to the world is not what you think it is and it's women's fault but we still want to **** them tho

to the world is not what you think it is and it's womens' fault and i'm going to take my ball and go home

to the world is not what you think ti is, it's women's and minorities faults and i'm gonna take my ball and go home.


in the spam of about 6-8 years

 

[Embers84]

Still raging I proved in less than 4 lines there hasn't been legitimate conservative MSM in the U.S for at least 40 years I see :cuss:

Heh. Did you just inadvertently own yourself by peppering your own shill post with leftoid buzzwords?

"liberals" is redundant in that sentence. Statistically it's majority non-whites and women on the gibsmedat train. You were right to leave out white men, as a general rule they don't vote for the gibs and increasing the size of big daddy alpha gov.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/where-to-find-americas-biggest-white-pussies/

25 minutes after LOL.

Republicans increased the size of Government with the Patriot Act.

White male Conservative Republicans in the poorest counties in Red States collect welfare checks, food stamps, and social security benefits all coming from the government.

Sounds like you have the rage always pissed off at the world hating on minorities and women. Every one of your posts that I read shows that hate and anger you have. What good is that? It didn't help anything did it?

Spending over a decade of your life with thousands of posts breeding hate and insulting people. If you're doing it now, I'm sure you've done it back then too. What a miserable life that must be getting enjoyment out of that. Insulting strangers you don't even know all day long everyday. Stupid. The internet is these guys only outlet to vent since they aren't taken seriously in real life situations.

Those aren't "leftoid" buzz words, it's an accurate description of who you really are. And that is a shame to be that way. All you can do is use projection when you are proven to be an idiot. Any person without delusion can see it and you know it too. That's why it angers you so much.

I just figured you out. You're nothing but a shill right wing troll that only wants to spread your propaganda around even when it's false. Anybody that has a different opinion or speaks the truth with legitimate facts, you do your best to shame them to make them look weak to the other posters. Anytime legitimate facts are presented that goes against what you "believe" you are right there to do your best to counter it with no facts but bullsh1t opinions shaming the person with buzz words. That's why you are right there after every time I post insulting me, and you constantly insult others too with your shame buzz words all through the forum. Really pathetic of you. What are you trying to prove? Most people don't even care. You just wasted your time showing your ignorance when you're proven wrong.

Keep on hating. It's not going to change anything for you. Shake your fists in anger.

i figured out quite a while ago that the mods are lock step in line with the website's "message". This website is basically stormfront jr. Which is quite sad. The MM section isn't as bad but the rest of the forum is pretty pathetic.

That appears to be the case here with this racist right wing garbage going on.

What makes me mad is that they totally deleted one of my threads, but they let these racist and right wing threads stand. Some of those threads get locked after people complain, but still remain in the boards for viewing, That is not right and clearly shows the bias going on. It can't be only one way in a forum for people speaking politics. Either have it or don't have it, but don't censor what you don't like. Every damn post sh!tlib this or sh!tlib that. All these dudes crying about liberals having nothing else better to do with their time.

 

[Jaylan]

i figured out quite a while ago that the mods are lock step in line with the website's "message". This website is basically stormfront jr. Which is quite sad. The MM section isn't as bad but the rest of the forum is pretty pathetic.

That appears to be the case here with this racist right wing garbage going on.

: shrug :

This isn't the only forum to discuss dating from a men's perspective. Thats the good part. I've said it before... I don't see this same crap on other seduction forums. This crap happens often on sites that are crawling with dudes drowning in manosphere teachings.

You won't find all this racial and political stuff on RSD forums or the PUA forums for example. This place used to mostly be about seduction and enjoying women....but now it's an endless b!tch fest about race, politics, feminism, and female sexuality.

Weird how this forum became what it is now. Even when I joined a few years ago it wasn't this bad. And if you spend time reading threads older than that, you're left really wondering what the hell happened and why many veterans abandoned this place.

 

[speed dawg]

Personally, no, I don't see what affirmative action really has to do with this case. Sounds like the product of a corrupt lib-tard state, Obama's home of all places. Wish he'd go back there and stay.

Moving on...

I mean, I don't know about you but I'm from the south. I've seen "real live" racism before lol.

Prove it. Give me a story. Until you do I'm just going with the assumption that you are a boldface crybaby LIAR.

I'm afraid that the racist are stuck in the trees and not seeing the forest. No one will ever, ever take you seriously if you're the party of inclusion. If you're for men's right's that's one thing. If you're basically just white christian versions of Muslim who hate everything note white and male lol, you will get laughed off every forum, laughed out of every room you ever go into. Which is sad becuase this site, the manosphere and the TRP all have very important points that people of all races and religions need to be aware of.

Finish the bolded sentence. I am for men's rights, but I am also for white men's rights. You still see that as racist. I (and none of these other guys) are anti-black. I really don't care what you do as long as you aren't trying to take something that's not yours, well, just because.

I know full well that the #1 race problem in this country doesn't lie with me, you, or anybody else on this forum. I know who is behind it, and I also know the truth. Not a damned thing you or anybody else says that will change my mind. I'm white and I'm proud. Are you threatened by that? If not, SHUT THE F*CK UP and don't read the threads you don't like.

 

[Stagger Lee]

It has everything to do with affirmative action because for these high paying cushy government jobs they will hire and retain applicants that are unqualified over more qualified applicants to fill the AA quota. It happens at government agencies and corporations all over the country, not just in Illinois. That's what's racist here http://adversity.net/philly/default.htm.

 

[Jaylan]

Youre pretty ignorant if you believe a minority with a shady employment record AND a criminal history is going to be given an authority position with a high salary all because of affirmative action. The guy in the news article definitely got his job based on the people he knows...especially in a state like Illinois.

Be realistic here and use some critical thinking. If affirmative action was to be used to fill such a position with such a salary, they would NOT choose some dude with employment problems and an extensive criminal history. Its not hard to find educated minorities with clean records in the 2000s.

Again I repeat, this guy got to where he is thanks to the people he knows. Dont act like there arent plenty of white people in positions of power with criminal records. Hell, there was a guy in congress recently who was convicted of a crime, and refused to step down for some time.

 

[( . )( . )]

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Heh. Embers if I can get you to rage out and write a 450 word tirade directed soley at me instead of pushing the "white men baaaaad, fox news baaaaad, feminism goooood, non whites goooood" narrative you've literally been pushing since you created an account here I'm obviously doing something right

 

[Stagger Lee]

Youre pretty ignorant if you believe a minority with a shady employment record AND a criminal history is going to be given an authority position with a high salary all because of affirmative action. The guy in the news article definitely got his job based on the people he knows...especially in a state like Illinois.

Be realistic here and use some critical thinking. If affirmative action was to be used to fill such a position with such a salary, they would NOT choose some dude with employment problems and an extensive criminal history. Its not hard to find educated minorities with clean records in the 2000s.

Again I repeat, this guy got to where he is thanks to the people he knows. Dont act like there arent plenty of white people in positions of power with criminal records. Hell, there was a guy in congress recently who was convicted of a crime, and refused to step down for some time.

Oh really? Stuff like this has been happening all over the country for years. Read here http://adversity.net/horror.htm

 

[DemFeeelz]

Heh. Embers if I can get you to rage out and write a 450 word tirade directed soley at me instead of pushing the "white men baaaaad, fox news baaaaad, feminism goooood, non whites goooood" narrative you've literally been pushing since you created an account here I'm obviously doing something right

Your admitting defeat is duly noted little boy. :crackup:

 

[Jaylan]

Oh really? Stuff like this has been happening all over the country for years. Read here http://adversity.net/horror.htm

So for years unqualified minorities have been hired to authority positions with a high salary to fill quota? Since when? Where's proof of this happening in the story you linked? I repeat, there is no way in hell that people in power are going to let affirmative action force them to hire a minority or a woman to an authority position with a high salary if that person has a poor employment record and a criminal history. The guy in your original story clearly knows the right people.

And that website you just linked means little honestly. Its a biased site, especially considering at the bottom of the page they are whining about not being able to trademark "white pride"...especially given "white pride" having a great history of being used as a slogan by hate groups and fascists. The rest of the stuff on that site is the typical whining that minority or female success has screwed over white dudes (as if their the only people that ever get screwed over in the employment force).

But lets not get sidetracked. I dont see where there is proof of affirmative action in your OP news story. No one has seen proof of that so far. Seems you just wanted to complain about affirmative action and thought the story in your OP was good enough to start a discussion...despite no real evidence of affirmative action.

 

[Stagger Lee]

People like him are hired and promoted all the time all over the country http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/15/new-york-city-jail-guards_n_6475982.html

And http://topconservativenews.com/2014/11/one-in-three-blacks-inmates-converts-to-islam-in-prison/

For example, Paul Pitts served 14 years in prison for murder, where he converted to Islam and became Imam Abdu-Shahid. He was paroled in 2001 and hired as a prison chaplain in 2007 with an annual salary of $49,471. In Feb 2010, he was caught trying to bring scissors and razor blades into the Manhattan Detention Complex.

A New York City corrections department source told the New York Post: “It’s a disgrace that taxpayers are funding Muslim chaplains who not only have criminal records, but also are promoting violence.”

Abdu-Shahid’s boss – head chaplain Umar Abdul-Jalil – was hired at an annual salary of $76, 602 even though he served 14 years for dealing drugs. In 2006, he was suspended for two weeks without pay after declaring that “the greatest terrorists in the world occupy the White House.” He continues to oversee 40 prison chaplains.
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