AFC women

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Double
a DJ would leave you.

It's unlikely I would even date 99% of the guys who post here, so I'm not influenced at all by that comment.

 

[Double]

1. only 1%here are real DJ's
2. a DJ wouldn't date you anyway because you have way to much baggage
3. what are you doing everyday in this forum who helps boys becomming a man? thinking about a sex change b/c of your unfeminine nature?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
Agressive women are not attractive;when it comes to relationships I avoid them like the plague.

I hope that was intended for me because I find your personality to be exceedingly repulsive and don't want you to find me attractive.

I like how you assume that if a woman isn't "submissive" that she is automatically "aggressive". Ironically...this incredibly gorgeous natural alpha type I know absolutely despises aggressive women and is totally turned off by them. He doesn't find me to be aggressive at all. In fact, he thinks I'm quite wonderful.

 

[Double]

great, now you start qualifying to us, keep going girl!

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Double
1. only 1%here are real DJ's
2. a DJ wouldn't date you anyway because you have way to much baggage
3. what are you doing everyday in this forum who helps boys becomming a man? thinking about a sex change b/c of your unfeminine nature?

And you, Double are NOT part of the 1%...

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by rgeere
Agressive women are not attractive;when it comes to relationships I avoid them like the plague.

I second that. Females who try to act like men are repulsive.

This is why I like girly girls. They dress sexy and I can tell them to shut up.

 

[rgeere]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
I second that. Females who try to act like men are repulsive.

This is why I like girly girls. They dress sexy and I can tell them to shut up.

I concur ...

Or even better, they know when to shut up

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
I'm not religious, so you're really wasting your breath. In fact, I think organized religion is evil. When Priests stop molesting children and ministers stop preaching hatred of people who are gay and inter-racial couples and the like, I might reconsider my position.

As I said before...for the last 11 years every relationship I have had has been very healthy, has worked well, and both myself and the men were very content with how things were. If it isn't broke...don't try to fix it...that's my motto. And yes, you can fully trust and believe in someone and still disagree with something they want to do. Because people are human and make mistakes, that is all the more reason for two people to make big decisions together because two heads are always better than one.

You have a very uneducated view of organized religion. The sad thing is that you subscribe to modern secularism. Which is in itself just like a religion. I don't want to argue with you about religion but I will say that you can't judge a religion by the actions of a few who shouldn't be there in the first place. Even the boyscouts have problems with the molesters. There are also many other secular institutions that are full of corupt people. As for a religion not agreeing with homosexuality, well I'm sorry but they have a right not to agree. Every person in the world has that right. You can't force someone to afirm the gay lifestyle if they think it is wrong. Most religious people who don't afirm that lifestyle don't hate gays. In fact they are told not to hate.


From what you have said I don't think you understand that men want a woman who will follow him. What kind of man wants to fight with a woman for power? It makes me sick when women try to fight for power in a relationship. They try to always balance everything out to 50/50 and cause all kinds of problems. Why can't they just leave it up to their man? why do they feel the need to butt heads all the time and stir up crap.
Sometimes I think they do it because they are told they have to fight for womens rights. Well f-cuk that crap. I'm not going to put up with it. I would never date a woman who acted like a man. I wouild never date a woman who had masculine qualties.

If you want to be just like a man and have the same power as he does then you should date an AFC.

 

[Don_Joffe]

If you think about it MOST women are AFC. If you become a DJ automatically the women should become AFC to you. Think about that. There is however the queen bee, now the queen bee will flirt with you but she wont touch you, she will try "play" you. Be careful with that one.

 

[Don_Joffe]

fuzzx: what you doing? Ignore her. She loves the attention, ill say this again, she is an attention *****, she is trying to mess with all of us, ignore her. the more you blabble on to her the more confident and the more attention she receives. She is a 40 year old ugly attention *****.

 

[DreamyChick]

Interesting thread...

I haven't posted on here in months but I found the topic at hand interesting so I thought I'd speak up.

I certainly have no problem putting trust and faith in a man to provide and take care of me if he has proven to me that is his intention. I used to view submisson as a weak term because that is usually what it implies. But now after a recent experience, I think I understand the context that you are using the word in.

Recently I went through a situation with a male friend that was just plain awful. I won't go into lengthy details (as far as what happened) here except to say that it deemed two angry stubborn individuals who wanted to understood by the other. We didn't speak for a month. He had completely cut me off, but one night I had the courage to call him out on a decision he made. Before you say anything I had a valid logical point and he knew it. It concerned a promise he made me outside of our friendship with a project we mutually support ( a business deal if you will).

So this prompted lines of communication and I have been using a new approach with him. He said that the reason he felt he had to cut me off was because we were fighting (arguing). I thought I was expressing my feelings but maybe I was doing it a little too strongly. After further instrospection I realized that he felt challenged in almost every issue I brought to his attention.

So whats the new approach? Well now I am very careful about picking my battles with him. I realize that I need to be more supportive and understanding and not seem so demanding to have my way all the time, which was never my intention in the first place but it was how he saw it. I listen to him and I encourage him. My expectations about him have been lowered.

Because I know he's a busy guy, I have made a point not to call as often or mention hanging out because I know eventually things will settle down and he will ask me to do so. Now he's not feeling pressured by me. This is not to say that I will let him walk all over me or treat me badly, but I've noticed bc I changed how I handle him it has helped our relationship. I take time to thank him when appropriate, and things like that.

He has definitely noticed and at first he inquired if I was sincere and he still has remarked at how this change in me is one for the better. Now in conversations if I know hes doing something I say you know I'll let you go and now he says No it's okay you're not distracting me.


I think this is an example of what they are talking about Wyld fire.

 

[rgeere]

DreamyChick is spot on, and I appreciate the fact that she posted. I wish more of the women who post here would develope the same understanding. No man wants to be in a relationship where there is a constant struggle for dominance or constant butting of heads.

 

[ketostix]

Does anyone else think it's ironic that Wyldfire is exhibiting the female traits that most of us guys are trying to avoid? Wyldfyre is a female, and like all females they're self-centered and clueless about what it is a guy wants in a female, and don't really care. Wyldfire you're no different from every other female, so give it up.

I only question some of your advice that I thought was off the mark. No one is impressed with AW antics. If you're going to give advice and someone disagrees with its merit, stick with the topic and defend your advice not yourself. The way I see it, this board is all about discussing how to get around female BS, so if you're going to inject more female BS here, naturally people are going to call it for what it is.

And if you're posting here obstensibly to help guys succeed with girls, then don't be an advocate and defender of the sisterhood. No one here cares about your erroneous view that old, washed up women are easier to deal with. I don't need to hear what women think they want. All that matters here is what works to get what we want and deserve from women. The site is about how guys can get what they want from who they want, not what women think guys should want. I value the advice of a 21 year old guy with feild experience over a 39 year old female's.

 

[thefonz]

I know wyldfire is a smart cookie and doesn't take crap from anybody (kinda like judge judy).....but wyld you are a psychology buff and you should know that when it comes to influencing and persuading others your strategy in the forum is lacking, i'm assuming you've read the bible cus you have more posts than anyone i've ever seen......you should then be able to realize that all the young guys who are attacking have the temerity to do so because the bible has told them indirectly that they should be dominating all the time, everytime. SO when a woman comes in here and assumes a controlling, aggressive personality the first thing that pops into these guys heads is "femi-nazi". You know how guys are, especially the ones in here, so why fight with everybody? Dreamychick is right on.

 

[rgeere]

TheFonz, I wasn't trying to dominate the discussion. I can not relinquish what I said because this sort of strong behavior has everything to do with what the feminist movement seeks to accomplish, and that is to dominate men and to turn them into slaves.

I know how these types of women are and the only way that you can manage them is too either avoid them entirely or take an assertive enoughy approach towards them that no matter what they say or do it neutralizes their attempts at domination. Trying to outmaneuver them by being more aggressive only works well in life threatening situations, not when you are dealing with people on a global/societal scale.

But yeah, maybe I could have handled the situation better. I'm only human afterall, and have to learn from my mistakes like the best of them.

 

[TDOT]

AFC women can be a challenge to game. Why? Because game doesn't work on them, DJ techniques do not work on them.
Why? Because AFC women are simply not interested in men in general. Most DJs don't recognize that they are talking to a female AFC when they get rejected by one and figure that she didn't have an interest in him personally when in fact she just doesn't have an interest in men in general. Also they tend to have very very little social skills and little to no social life. Most of them are nerds who only care about their schoolwork or career. Just because most are nerds doesn't mean that they are not hot. In fact quite a few of them have very good looks.
Although the majority of them have never had a boyfriend.

When you use DJ game on them they don't get it that you are trying to talk to them. They just don't get that you are trying to pick them up.
So how do you get one interested in you?
You have to drop all the DJ skills you have learned and simply tell them as directly as you possibly can that you like them and are interested in talking to them. You have to make that very clear and plain in the most direct way you can or else they truly are not going to even realize why you are even talking to them.

For example after realizing that the girl is an AFC say:

I'm talking to you because I like you and want to date you. I like the way you carry yourself and I am attracted by your qualities. I want to get to know you better and I want you to get to know me.

So what are the signs of a female AFC?

1) shy
2) disinterested manner
3) easily frustrated over small everyday things (long shopping lines, traffic moving to slow, etc.)
4) complains often about other people / easily annoyed by the flaws of others
5) lack of interest in sports, current events, hobbies
6) impatient


So next time start talking to a girl and she seems to not be responding to your charm, use your gut and determine if she is a female AFC. Then change your approach if she is.

 

[AMF]

Women... give us the POWER to love you, and we will love you.

Women... compete for the POWER with us, and we will hate you.

 

[frivolousz21]

Agressive women are not attractive;when it comes to relationships I avoid them like the plague.

this I agree with 100 percent

Women... give us the POWER to love you, and we will love you.

again I agree 100 percent

If you think about it MOST women are AFC. If you become a DJ automatically the women should become AFC to you. Think about that

again agreed 100 percent


again I am jsut saying...afc women suck and the women who want to dominate suck worse.

somewhere inbetween lies a better women for me

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
TheFonz, I wasn't trying to dominate the discussion. I can not relinquish what I said because this sort of strong behavior has everything to do with what the feminist movement seeks to accomplish, and that is to dominate men and to turn them into slaves.

I know how these types of women are and the only way that you can manage them is too either avoid them entirely or take an assertive enoughy approach towards them that no matter what they say or do it neutralizes their attempts at domination. Trying to outmaneuver them by being more aggressive only works well in life threatening situations, not when you are dealing with people on a global/societal scale.

But yeah, maybe I could have handled the situation better. I'm only human afterall, and have to learn from my mistakes like the best of them.

rgeere...I was politely and tactfully disagreeing with you UNTIL you made this statement about me in response to Double:

Yeah, apparently she is among the increasing majority of females who have been brainwashed into thinking that being submissive is a bad thing for a woman, when in fact the very fact that women have been given a vagina in the first place has already put them into a comformist role.

I'm making it my goal to find women that havn't been brainwashed by this sort of feminazi BS. I want to find my equal opposite, not these controlling aggressive feminist witches/b;tches.

In this post you proclaim that I have been "brainwashed", go on to elaborate to refer to this as "feminazi" brainwashing and go even further to imply that I am a "controlling aggresive feminist witch/biotch". From there it went down hill. Now, put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Let's say that I posted a response to someone that read something like this:

"Yeah, apparently rgeere is among the increasing majority of males who have been brainwashed into thinking that supplicating is a bad thing for a man, when in fact the very fact that men have been given a penis in the first place has already put them into a supplicating role.

I'm making it my goal to find men that havn't been brainwashed by this sort of misogynistic BS. I want to find my equal opposite, not these hateful abusive misogynistic a$$holes/b@stards."

Now...how would YOU react if I had of made such an insulting post about you? I'm guessing you would probably respond much in the way that I responded to you. It's a safe bet that implying that an anti-feminist woman is a "feminazi biotch" is going to be viewed as being offensive and insulting...much in the way you would undoubtedly be offended and insulted if I had of made the above statements about you.

I think that's really all that is left to be said about this argument.

 

[ketostix]

If you think about it MOST women are AFC. If you become a DJ automatically the women should become AFC to you. Think about that

This is key. Most any woman to varying degrees (of course some are nicer than others) are AW, bytches, etc. to many guys, but she'll be AFC's to the one that plays his cards right with her, in other words attracts her. I think that's what it is all about, becoming a DJ, getting the girls to respond favorably and then choosing the girl with the best qualities.