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Dumping a boyfriend does not equate to her not banging a guy here and there
My point was that some girls actually take them seriously rather than some extra side attention while they get railed by chads

Just like some men take their online relationships seriously instead of having 5 online girlfriends sending you fresh daily nudes

The problem of course is that 99% of the time you merely have to guess if she's taking it seriously or not, but i doubt this chick is spending hundreds of dollars on travel to kowtow to someone she thinks is a beta orbiter or something.

Now if the dynamic shifts and she becomes 100% lip service while not lifting a finger or investing at all, that's how OP knows that she's bullsh!tting him. I know girls who can visit me but choose not to and I'd never even entertain the thought of taking them more seriously than nudes on the side with no commitment

Trust me Marmel is right. Facing the truths like a man is important. Dealing with them the correct way is even more important. There’s reasons we tell each other to “stop being a *****” when we do sneaky things to each other or things that are unfair. Women are wired differently. Marmel gave me guidance in the past and he’s been on point. I’m glad he helped me jus wake up and realize that I need to start spinning plates again- even tho this girl CLAIMS she’s committed and doesn’t want me ****ing around on her marmel75
Fair enough. She's your girl you know her better than we do. Good luck man!
 
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My point was that some girls actually take them seriously rather than some extra side attention while they get railed by chads

Just like some men take their online relationships seriously instead of having 5 online girlfriends sending you fresh daily nudes

The problem of course is that 99% of the time you merely have to guess if she's taking it seriously or not, but i doubt this chick is spending hundreds of dollars on travel to kowtow to someone she thinks is a beta orbiter or something.

Now if the dynamic shifts and she becomes 100% lip service while not lifting a finger or investing at all, that's how OP knows that she's bull****ting him. I know girls who can visit me but choose not to and I'd never even entertain the thought of taking them more seriously than nudes on the side with no commitment



Fair enough. She's your girl you know her better than we do. Good luck man!
Good points bro thanks for feedback
 

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Ur advice always good. But that’s savage as hell. Cmon dude I know u got better than that brother
Yea... that was pretty harsh, I could of been more diplomatic.

Look, you can only make things work with girls/women when you can actually see them on a regular basis. Women respond only to physical presence, and they need this kind of connection. In addition, if you live in a Western society where women are not shamed into loyalty, they will act on their nature, which is to bond with the best man that can actually put their hands on. My grandfather fought in WWII, he landed in Normandy, fought across France, through Belgium, and into Holland, before eventually ending up in Germany. He told a story about liberating these places, in France there was the occasional women that had her head shaved for 'collaboration', but when he got to Holland, there were a BUNCH of women that had their heads shaved. Later in Germany he was talking to a French officer about how few women he saw in France getting punished in this way... suggesting the women in France were more more virtuous.... The French officer laughed. He said women in France that were punished like this were women that REALLY collaborated, you know helped the Germans. In Holland, if a woman just slept with a German, she was shamed. The French officer went on to say "If we did this, almost all the women in France would be bald... and that simply is not attractive."

The reason why French men seam to do well with women, is that the French understand female nature, and they just accept this, and work with it. They do not expect them to be loyal, so they are never really disappointed. Some might think this is crazy, the French think this is realistic.

I spent some time with French troops during the Gulf War, and when they would get 'Dear John" letters, they would joke about it... then takes bets on who would be the next to get such a letter, the guy getting the letter would read it out load, then everyone would laugh and say "Great, now you can get a better woman!" When I was with Americans.... man a guy that got a "Dear John" letter was put on suicide watch... everyone would treat the guy like he had terminal cancer.

You should never try to make anything work with a chick that is far away... you will remain loyal, and she will not... it is as simple as that. She will string you along... keep you on a hook, because she really doesn't care, and defend her actions as "Not wanting to hurt you." But it will end, long distance relationships almost NEVER work out... in the meantime the man misses out on opportunities.

The other thing you need to remember about women, is they are all about the moment... it's all about how you make her feel RIGHT NOW. They really do not care about anything else you may have done in the past or things that happened. This is why one week she's all over you and the next.... she's gone. She really does care about last week... because this week she met a guy she FEELS is better than you, so you're out.... he's in.... and in a month, well now she back... because her feelings have changed. Many guys believe that things they do for woman act like money in the bank. They really don't, she doesn't care that you bought her a car, or paid her bills for 6 months.... none of that matters if you are not making her feel "special". So going on and on about what happened in the past, really is irrelevant... because it makes almost no difference to the chick.
 

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What u said makes a ton of sense but the reality is that I’m the one who wants the physical presence and she’s the one on the chopping block. @RangerMIke I’m just trying to determine to can this broad or not. She’s in Canada and she’s the one who will have to make “the move”. I’m just chillin here determining my next steps leveraging my resources - which you guys do give great advice.
 

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Yea... that was pretty harsh, I could of been more diplomatic.

Look, you can only make things work with girls/women when you can actually see them on a regular basis. Women respond only to physical presence, and they need this kind of connection. In addition, if you live in a Western society where women are not shamed into loyalty, they will act on their nature, which is to bond with the best man that can actually put their hands on. My grandfather fought in WWII, he landed in Normandy, fought across France, through Belgium, and into Holland, before eventually ending up in Germany. He told a story about liberating these places, in France there was the occasional women that had her head shaved for 'collaboration', but when he got to Holland, there were a BUNCH of women that had their heads shaved. Later in Germany he was talking to a French officer about how few women he saw in France getting punished in this way... suggesting the women in France were more more virtuous.... The French officer laughed. He said women in France that were punished like this were women that REALLY collaborated, you know helped the Germans. In Holland, if a woman just slept with a German, she was shamed. The French officer went on to say "If we did this, almost all the women in France would be bald... and that simply is not attractive."

The reason why French men seam to do well with women, is that the French understand female nature, and they just accept this, and work with it. They do not expect them to be loyal, so they are never really disappointed. Some might think this is crazy, the French think this is realistic.

I spent some time with French troops during the Gulf War, and when they would get 'Dear John" letters, they would joke about it... then takes bets on who would be the next to get such a letter, the guy getting the letter would read it out load, then everyone would laugh and say "Great, now you can get a better woman!" When I was with Americans.... man a guy that got a "Dear John" letter was put on suicide watch... everyone would treat the guy like he had terminal cancer.

You should never try to make anything work with a chick that is far away... you will remain loyal, and she will not... it is as simple as that. She will string you along... keep you on a hook, because she really doesn't care, and defend her actions as "Not wanting to hurt you." But it will end, long distance relationships almost NEVER work out... in the meantime the man misses out on opportunities.

The other thing you need to remember about women, is they are all about the moment... it's all about how you make her feel RIGHT NOW. They really do not care about anything else you may have done in the past or things that happened. This is why one week she's all over you and the next.... she's gone. She really does care about last week... because this week she met a guy she FEELS is better than you, so you're out.... he's in.... and in a month, well now she back... because her feelings have changed. Many guys believe that things they do for woman act like money in the bank. They really don't, she doesn't care that you bought her a car, or paid her bills for 6 months.... none of that matters if you are not making her feel "special". So going on and on about what happened in the past, really is irrelevant... because it makes almost no difference to the chick.
I always thought your posts were very good but a bit too cynical, human beings are not actually bound to their nature. This is proven by your ability to follow laws which are not natural. Same with women, if women aren't capable of ignoring their "nature" without living in the culture of saudi arabia then how do women who are not gold diggers exist? How do women that don't cheat exist? How do relationships end without branch swinging occurring? Why is any woman ever single? Unless every relationship in human history has a woman who cheats and doesn't get caught

It's important to remember that all women are like that doesn't mean "literally every woman is cheating on you with her boss like your wh0re ex" it means more like "any woman could do that if she found herself in a situation that pushed her to it"
 

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I always thought your posts were very good but a bit too cynical, human beings are not actually bound to their nature. This is proven by your ability to follow laws which are not natural. Same with women, if women aren't capable of ignoring their "nature" without living in the culture of saudi arabia then how do women who are not gold diggers exist? How do women that don't cheat exist? How do relationships end without branch swinging occurring? Why is any woman ever single? Unless every relationship in human history has a woman who cheats and doesn't get caught

It's important to remember that all women are like that doesn't mean "literally every woman is cheating on you with her boss like your wh0re ex" it means more like "any woman could do that if she found herself in a situation that pushed her to it"
I am talking about the nature of women, they are not completely incapable of resisting their urges, but they all have them and it is ever present. I think I have said many many times, 50% of long term relationships can work, but only 25% of LTRs are happy for BOTH partners... you can find a chick that will work that, but you won't if you ignore human nature. If you find yourself with a woman that is not willing to work to get your attention and make you happy, and who wants you enough to ask for you, then you are headed for trouble.... and if you find a women, that is willing to work for you... that will not last if you think you have things in the bag and ignore the signs that she is drifting off. Once you have her, the struggle has just begun and not ended. If you are willing to sign up for this, then great... good luck, but your best chance of finding a woman that will give you the least amount of effort to make something work is to behave and act like you know what she is like, and not care if she leaves.

Look there are always exceptions to the rule, but in modern western society men just need to know what they are up against... you are not going to get any help from society, especially in the US where society really doesn't care a lick about family values, in spite of what one side of the political spectrum says... all we care about is the willingness of people to spend money. And since women will spend until they are @ss deep in debt, society will keep kissing their butts.

You are not going to get help from other men in many cases, because many of these guys are just trying to fvck your girl. This goes to the competitive nature of men... Our nature can be just as destructive as the nature of women. It is our competitive nature that has created a society where things are so upside down. Things are the way they are because men have allowed this to happen.

Ironically, the only people you can really count on are other women.... I know... it's funny but true. If you have some female friends, and they like you platonically, with no real romantic interest... they will tell you if a chick is good for you, you just have to listen to her, you can use the chick network to your advantage. Just don't ask them for relationship advice... but they will tell you which chicks are no good.

My harsh nature and demeanor has grown from experience and observation, but in real life I hide it well. If you ever met me in person, you would likely never guess what is inside. I'm actually a pretty optimistic guy, it's okay to hope things will go well, but it is also foolish to ignore reality.
 

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So I talked to her , cut her loose.i told her I’m not interested in LDR and unless she figured her **** out and came down here. I’m doing mine thing and she can do hers... she said she wanted to come down eventually and needed time but I told her I don’t have time to text her all day and **** as I have a job and things to do. Kind of a **** move but I took your advice @marmel75 @RangerMIke
 

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So I talked to her , cut her loose.i told her I’m not interested in LDR and unless she figured her **** out and came down here. I’m doing mine thing and she can do hers... she said she wanted to come down eventually and needed time but I told her I don’t have time to text her all day and **** as I have a job and things to do. Kind of a **** move but I took your advice @marmel75 @RangerMIke
Also she sent a long text message bitching at me for pressuring her or whatever and that she was happy to be with me but she doesn’t want to distract me or feel forced to move. I didn’t respond to that BS as I had nothing to say back. #next @marmel75 @RangerMIke
 
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