Adrian Peterson Indicted For Disciplining His Son

[Desdinova]

Poor kid. Those pictures are pretty nasty, especially on the body of a 4 year old.

If my kid pushes another kid, I will either push him to teach him how the other child feels, or I would take one of his toys away for a few days. Also, if my kid pushed the other kid in self-defence, he would not be punished.

Beating him multiple times with a stick? See, that's warranted if he had burned the house down or something. The only time my kid gets a spanking is when he's not co-operating with his existing punishment, which is usually facing the wall. And it's rare that he doesn't co-operate. If you make yourself into a no-nonsense adult authority figure, the kid will take you seriously and make it easier to discipline him, as well as making discipline a less common occurrence. If your kid takes you seriously, he WILL listen to you.

 

[zekko]

I think this topic is important because the father traditionally has the role of disciplining the child. The more the courts intrude into that role, the more that role is diminished. Similar to how the government assumes the role of Provider and Protector.

Regarding Peterson, one point I saw made recently was that he is not being charged with child abuse. The media is using the term child abuse all over but he is actually being charged with negligent injury of a child. Apparently there is an important distinction because those are the words the DA has been using.

I also thought that this quote from Charles Barkley was interesting. On ESPN First Take, while they all thought that what Peterson did was child abuse, none of them thought that he was intentionally doing anything wrong. He was simply disciplining his child in the manner that he had been disciplined as a child. I'm not black, and I'm not from the south, but I do remember this being the kind of discipline that was dished out when I was growing up. Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. I know we didn't have school shootings back in those days.

"I'm from the South. Whipping is ... we do that all the time," the former basketball star, who was born and raised in Leeds, Alabama, said. "Every black parent in the South is gonna be in jail under those circumstances. I think we have to be careful letting people dictate how they treat their children."

When Rome contended that it doesn't matter where someone is from because "right is right and wrong is wrong," Barkley disagreed.

"I don't believe that because, listen, we spank kids in the South," he said. "I think the question about did Adrian Peterson go overboard. ... But, listen, Jim, we all grow up in different environments. Every black parent in my neighborhood in the South would be in trouble or in jail under those circumstances. ... As far as being from the South, we all spanked our kids. I got spanked, me and my two brothers."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/charles-barkley-adrian-peterson_n_5822258.html

 

[backbreaker]

Another thing, not for nothing, but i don't think a kid who grew upw ith both parents having a 9 to 5 job where the dad was always there and everyone was around setting good examples and ****, hs a right to dictate to a single parent or someone where the parents aren't always around how to discipline their children. My mom probably could have gotten away with not spanking me if I grew up in a traditional nuclear family where I had a positive male role model to look at everyday and to emulate.

 

[dasein]

Actually Jaylan, dasein feels it's ok to use "corporal discipline" on puppies.

It is, any reputable trainer will agree.

Since guys like dasein approve of "corporal punishment", they should bring it into the work force.

Whatever you say, o king of strawman.

Another guy who likes to pretend that child abuse doesn't occur

more straw.

Talk to my cousin my friends who are cops. They will set you straight, because they arrested bastards who severely beat their kids for no reason.

and more straw

That's why we have laws, and people like dasein like to complain about them.

Sad there are no laws to allow us to spank the logically challenged.

I've never understood what a severe beating does to punish or correct the child.

Only a liar or a pvssy would call a switching a "severe beating." Which?

Look at the beatings you took dasein, did you stop your bad behavior after your first beating?

Yeah, it did, and as previously stated, I'm probably alive, whole, and not in jail today due to some of those spankings and switchings.

abusing and beating their kids to a pulp.

Once again, Chatty Cathy shows a contempt for logic and a love of hyperbole.

If you don't like it here in America, then why don't you go to a barbaric country like Uzbekistan. You would feel right at home there with their "corporal punishment" they dish out to their citizens.

Non sequitur, strawman, and some other fallacies rolled up in there. Make it stop! Frankly I'd rather be whipped for real than tortured by your failure to grasp basic logic.

Homes with fathers abusing their kids is much worse than single mother homes without any father figure....but I'm sure you are going to say that's all B.S. anyway right?

No I'll just say this:

http://www.divorcereform.org/crime.html

and this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/ar...ween-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/

and this:

http://www.photius.com/feminocracy/facts_on_fatherless_kids.html

It's no coincidence that conservative families have more abuse and have been arrested for more abuse because of their severe and strict rules that punishes kids.

What's no coincidence, based on your other posts to this forum, is that you pulled the above right out of your ignorant ass.

dasein admits not to having any kids of his own, but feels he is an authority on how to run the show as a parent. And if he doesn't like it, he will attack parents, the system, and posters with lame right wing made up shaming terms to shame others who disagree. That's pathetic. :yes:

What's pathetic is that the above is a complete lie from you in the context of this thread. I posted very clearly more than once here that parents should be the prime authority on how and whether to discipline their children, not me, you, and especially not nannygov. Why lie? Can your pea-brain not do better? Can you not actually debate what I actually posted? Guess not.

A good spanking with an open hand does a good enough job to teach the kid.

... and who is it again telling parents what's best for their children? Me or you?

The problem is, parents were beating their kids in the head and face where severe injuries and death were occurring. That's why they made the laws that they did.

... and we are back to the strawfields... repetitively. What -specific- instance of beating in the head or face are you talking about? Surely not the subject of this thread unless you know something I don't. (hey it could happen)

The "church of the child" is a complete creation of our leftist, feminized culture. We've gone from "children should be seen and not heard," to "give them a cellphone and a credit card at 5, and god forbid don't say or do anything critical to them or it could harm their self esteem. When they inevitably turn out to be spoiled, worthless POSs, we'll just send them to "therapy" and get them a ritalin prescription."

Old way... better way. The end. All the time I got for you for the moment, Cathy.

 

[cordoncordon]

It is, any reputable trainer will agree.



Whatever you say, o king of strawman.



more straw.



and more straw



Sad there are no laws to allow us to spank the logically challenged.



Only a liar or a pvssy would call a switching a "severe beating." Which?



Yeah, it did, and as previously stated, I'm probably alive, whole, and not in jail today due to some of those spankings and switchings.



Once again, Chatty Cathy shows a contempt for logic and a love of hyperbole.



Non sequitur, strawman, and some other fallacies rolled up in there. Make it stop! Frankly I'd rather be whipped for real than tortured by your failure to grasp basic logic.



No I'll just say this:

http://www.divorcereform.org/crime.html

and this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/ar...ween-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/

and this:

http://www.photius.com/feminocracy/facts_on_fatherless_kids.html




What's no coincidence, based on your other posts to this forum, is that you pulled the above right out of your ignorant ass.



What's pathetic is that the above is a complete lie from you in the context of this thread. I posted very clearly more than once here that parents should be the prime authority on how and whether to discipline their children, not me, you, and especially not nannygov. Why lie? Can your pea-brain not do better? Can you not actually debate what I actually posted? Guess not.



... and who is it again telling parents what's best for their children? Me or you?



... and we are back to the strawfields... repetitively. What -specific- instance of beating in the head or face are you talking about? Surely not the subject of this thread unless you know something I don't. (hey it could happen)

The "church of the child" is a complete creation of our leftist, feminized culture. We've gone from "children should be seen and not heard," to "give them a cellphone and a credit card at 5, and god forbid don't say or do anything critical to them or it could harm their self esteem. When they inevitably turn out to be spoiled, worthless POSs, we'll just send them to "therapy" and get them a ritalin prescription."

Old way... better way. The end. All the time I got for you for the moment, Cathy.

I cannot imagine being a woman and dating you. You sound exhausting. And mean spirited. And condescending. And basically just a pain to be around. Based on your writing, it isn't like you are an idiot. But man do you come across as basically just a know it all who is absolutely no fun to hang around with. Life is too short to be so angry all of the time.

 

[dasein]

I cannot imagine being a woman and dating you. You sound exhausting. And mean spirited. And condescending. And basically just a pain to be around. Based on your writing, it isn't like you are an idiot. But man do you come across as basically just a know it all who is absolutely no fun to hang around with. Life is too short to be so angry all of the time.

I suppose your and others "righteous" anger (slavery, ISIS, religious fanatics, "whip lacerations") over what amounts to a garden variety switching by someone you don't know, of their child whom you also don't know, in a situation... once again... that you don't know the facts of, based purely on a media circus, is different? Of course it is. Of course your anger over a pedestrian photograph of switch marks on a 4 year old couldn't be misplaced, is automatically legit, yet my anger at the resulting trumped up bread and circus, and the hyperbole expressed by you and others like you simply must be misplaced. I see.

Moreover, and I realize this kind of thing gets stale here, but geez, the above quoted passage from you is -exactly- how women, particularly feminists talk, in attempting to shame men, chapter and verse, from the playbook verbatim. Coincidence?

What I cannot imagine ever, never, as a heterosexual man, is saying to another man, "I cannot imagine being a woman and dating you." Never said anything like it as a man nor heard a man ever say anything like it. Have never heard a man (other than a pol trying to appeal to the female vote) use the phrase "mean-spirited" either, and almost never heard a man describe another human being as "exhausting." Anything you'd care to share with us?

 

[backbreaker]

now another running back has been arrested for domestic abuse lol

 

[cordoncordon]

I suppose your and others "righteous" anger (slavery, ISIS, religious fanatics, "whip lacerations") over what amounts to a garden variety switching by someone you don't know, of their child whom you also don't know, in a situation... once again... that you don't know the facts of, based purely on a media circus, is different? Of course it is. Of course your anger over a pedestrian photograph of switch marks on a 4 year old couldn't be misplaced, is automatically legit, yet my anger at the resulting trumped up bread and circus, and the hyperbole expressed by you and others like you simply must be misplaced. I see.

Moreover, and I realize this kind of thing gets stale here, but geez, the above quoted passage from you is -exactly- how women, particularly feminists talk, in attempting to shame men, chapter and verse, from the playbook verbatim. Coincidence?

What I cannot imagine ever, never, as a heterosexual man, is saying to another man, "I cannot imagine being a woman and dating you." Never said anything like it as a man nor heard a man ever say anything like it. Have never heard a man (other than a pol trying to appeal to the female vote) use the phrase "mean-spirited" either, and almost never heard a man describe another human being as "exhausting." Anything you'd care to share with us?

No. This last post is a shining example of what I was talking about.

That about sums it up.