Jaylan said:
Like you said bro, weird that corporal punishment against small humans can be seen as more ok than it being done to animals.
dasein said:
It's absolutely NOT animal cruelty to use corporal discipline on dogs as part of their training when puppies.
Actually Jaylan, dasein feels it's ok to use "corporal discipline" on puppies.
Since guys like dasein approve of "corporal punishment", they should bring it into the work force. So, when he's two minutes late for work or fvcks up on the job, his boss can slap him upside the head or kick him square in the ass for fvcking up. Gotta keep workers like him in line right? :crackup:
He would be the first guy crying about abuse on the job and asking for regulations at work. Part of the "gynocracy" he rants about. :yes:
dasein said:
What a pile of steaming hyperbole to describe switch marks on a kid's legs as indicia of slavery. LOL. Rest of your post is full of the same BS too, especially the part about supposed animal cruelty. It's absolutely NOT animal cruelty to use corporal discipline on dogs as part of their training when puppies. The kneejerk response to this doesn't surprise me at all, though, as the gynocracy Church of the Child view is rampant in our culture. There are all kinds of behaviors that "four year olds do" that need discipline, and if the father chooses a switch, so be it. Until it becomes real abuse, it's none of the state's or media's business.
Once more, the way this is being handled and reported shows just how far we have declined into emotion-laden gynocracy, and I'm pretty sure by now that the rest of the world finds the US an utter laughing stock over this and similar.
dasein make Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh sound like Liberals. :crackup:
Another guy who likes to pretend that child abuse doesn't occur as he skews the facts and uses lame right wing shaming terms to attack other people.
He believes it's all "made up" by the "Liberal Media" and Liberals as a "gynocracy" to make people soft. If he took a look at the prison population for violent crimes (which is over crowded) and read some actual real news, he would know that these crimes occur everyday.
Talk to my cousin my friends who are cops. They will set you straight, because they arrested bastards who severely beat their kids for no reason.
But I'm sure you will feel the punishment was deserved and the "gynocracy" is taking away child abusers rights to physically damage a child's brain and face.
The reason that laws were made, is because parents were abusing their power. They were violently assaulting their kids and some even killed them from the violent force. That's why we have laws, and people like dasein like to complain about them.
Just because you received beatings as a child dasein, doesn't mean that parents today need to beat the sh1t out of their kids for small infractions.
I've never understood what a severe beating does to punish or correct the child. A 4 year old kid is still learning right from wrong and is going to make mistakes. Whipping him until his skin breaks and bleeds, when he has to feel pain for several days is not teaching the kid anything.
Look at the beatings you took dasein, did you stop your bad behavior after your first beating? No, you took several more because the beatings didn't stop you from making any mistakes. All that did was turn you into an angry man where you believe others should have the same punishment. :yes:
I have friends that live in Europe and they felt it was wrong as well. Even Bill O on Fox News said it wasn't right. He's a Conservative. Civilized people don't go abusing and beating their kids to a pulp.
If you don't like it here in America, then why don't you go to a barbaric country like Uzbekistan. You would feel right at home there with their "corporal punishment" they dish out to their citizens.
dasein said:
Here's a question for you, when people constantly lament the absence of "male influence" in single parent families, cite to the horrendous statistics of lower function, intelligence, achievement and higher criminal tendencies in children of single mother homes, what -exactly- do you think they mean by "male influence" other than if the kid engages in bad behavior, they are due to feel some pain at their father's hands?
Homes with fathers abusing their kids is much worse than single mother homes without any father figure. Every person I knew that had an abusive father turned out to be screwed up including chicks who developed personality disorders. That's why there are so many fvcked up chicks around because they "felt pain at their father's hands" but I'm sure you are going to say that's all B.S. anyway right?
It's no coincidence that conservative families have more abuse and have been arrested for more abuse because of their severe and strict rules that punishes kids.
dasein said:
Do you even know what a "whip laceration" (lol) looks like? It doesn't look anything like the mild welts from a switching such as in the pictures. Perhaps the bruises and marks athletes get are "hideous blunt instrument contusion trauma" too? Do you know why kids are spanked and switched on the back of the legs and the ass? Because there is almost no chance of real injury there due to the excess fat as opposed to slaves or criminals being whipped or caned on the back with little excess tissue specifically to cause injury, but switching on the legs/ass still hurts and accomplishes the purpose. Show me actual whip marks on a kid's -back-, and I would probably agree with you that it is abusive, this is definitely one of those situations where the govt and media make hay by making something look far worse and more melodramatic than it is, and you and others fall right over for it.
dasein admits not to having any kids of his own, but feels he is an authority on how to run the show as a parent. And if he doesn't like it, he will attack parents, the system, and posters with lame right wing made up shaming terms to shame others who disagree. That's pathetic. :yes:
4 year old kids don't need to have "whip lacerations" to show the battle scars as an athlete has. A good spanking with an open hand does a good enough job to teach the kid.
The problem is, parents were beating their kids in the head and face where severe injuries and death were occurring. That's why they made the laws that they did.
And you're an idiot if you think child abuse laws were made because parents weren't doing that.
This clown tries to make this out to be a "Liberal" thing once again.
Conservative cops will arrest you for beating a child. Conservative District Attorneys will prosecute you for beating a child. Conservative Judges will sentence you for beating a child. So, knock of your B.S. biased rants about "leftist victimology politics" because Conservatives in the criminal justice system are against child abuse as well.
Stagger Lee said:
But they (liberals and the media) don't really care about children, women and families. They just want to punish men and push a liberal agenda.
:crackup:
Here we go again with the "Liberals"
I watched FOX News and Bill O'Reilly was talking about Peterson and said he went too far. Is he pushing a "Liberal Agenda" too? :crackup:
You contradicted yourself here. You're saying the Liberal Agenda is targeted to help men, women, children, and families. So, why would they push that agenda if they didn't care about them?
Don't you think a man or woman should be punished for breaking the laws and abusing kids?
Conservatives don't care about you either dude, neither do the Liberals. What are they doing to help you today? Nothing. They have their free government health care, their job, their homes, their special interest money, and they don't care about your rights or if the country is in trouble. They have what they want and that's all they care about.
It's all smoke and mirrors with what they do. They have the talking heads on TV and radio telling you how to think to rile you up. Nothing ever gets done, and it's the same old sh1t from both sides. As long as they get their money from their special interest buddies towing the party lines that's all they care about. Then they campaign on bvllsh1t promises they never keep, blaming the other side for the demise of the country. Then 2, 4, 6 years later (depending on what position they hold) they do it all over again.
(which would explain a lot) it's A OK in your book!
