Adrian Peterson Indicted For Disciplining His Son

[dasein]

I don't see anything wrong with the pictures, not a thing. I was whipped with switches growing up by both parents and one grandmother, ALL my friends were too except for a few spoiled kids who turned out to be waste products, and the effect was that I learned not to do the things that got a whipping (start fights, play with fire, steal, that sort of thing), and stick to lesser misbehavior that just got a belt or spankings. I might be -dead-, -maimed- or -in prison- today without those whippings. The people who whipped me didn't enjoy it, didn't want to do it, but they LOVED me enough to do it anyway. And surprise surprise, just look at the quality of kids we breed today without reasonable corporal punishment. Today, discipline is a prescription pad. **** that.

IMO, the world and US would be a MUCH better place if lots more children had those kinds of marks on them after misbehaving. Also IMO, most of the rest of the world laughs at our rampant pussified gynocracy over BS like this, as well they should.

One of the several reasons I haven't ever had kids is that if I did, when the earnest, melodramatic social worker slime leeches, cops and govninnynannies came to call with their cameras and yardsticks over mere SWITCH MARKS on my kid's legs?? Well we would have a "come right in here and try to take me" type of issue which I've chosen to avoid. Heard the lament that "kids need a dad" over and over recently, well this is a big part of our problem in that regard.

"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out." Bill Cosby

And yeah, this is a left/right issue, clear as day. The "Church of the Child," where children are infinitely spoiled and coddled, have more purchasing power than 90% of the adults in other parts of the world, is just another form of leftist victimology politics and gynocratic marketeering. It's KILLING us and all that was good in our culture. There's a long continuum between "Sparta" and the repulsive gynocracy we have today, and we are way too far over on the gynocracy side.

 

[FairShake]

Beating his son like that is more akin to slavery than how the NFL owners treat their millionaire employees.

The kid is FOUR YEARS OLD! This has nothing to do with keeping him out of gangs.

I can't believe people are defending him. That abuse-is-ok stuff is some weird black sh!t that I don't understand. And look how well they behave!

 

[Bible_Belt]

I guess nobody notices all of this is about some jackass hillbilly prosecutor wanting to make a name for himself. DAs are politicians. They only care about getting re-elected. They don't give two sh!ts about anyone's kid, unless it advances their own career.

The color has been turned up and modified in those pics to make them look worse than they are. Once again, no one notices.

AP's real failure as a parent is not teaching his kid that #1 cops are not your friends, and #2 don't be a snitch, especially to the cops about your family. I was beaten that badly at that age. My mom liked the wire handle of the fly swatter. But even that young, I knew that running to the authorities to tell on her was not going to make my life any better.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Y'all Love to Inject Race

The kid is FOUR YEARS OLD! This has nothing to do with keeping him out of gangs.

It's about establishing a precedent.

That abuse-is-ok stuff is some weird black sh!t that I don't understand. And look how well they behave!

As opposed to the straight up sadistic sh*t that went on in Catholic schools when they used to allow corporal punishment.

 

[cordoncordon]

Still cannot believe some of you guys are defending this. And it seems as if all of the people who are defending it say things like "it happened to me as a kid, and I turned out alright". Really?

Just because something was done 30 years ago doesn't mean its the right way to do things. Watch this video from Chris Carter for example, a former Viking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...nd-against-child-abuse-on-espn-153242374.html

He pushed a kid off a bike. He acted like any 4 year old does. Does that deserve for him to be lined up with his pants down, mouth full of leaves, and whipped to the point of multiple cuts and lacerations by a 240 pound football player? Like a slave???

There are laws against treating animals like this. It's called animal abuse. If you did this to your dog, or a racehorse, you get fined, suspended, and possibly arrested. Yet for some archaic reason, all because it was done as a disturbed tradition for 200 years prior, it's ok to whip your kids like THAT????

WTF is wrong with some of you people?

 

[randell]

For that young of a boy, this is WAY out of line! He needs to be in prison, where the guys will teach him about child abuse, count on that much.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I guess nobody notices all of this is about some jackass hillbilly prosecutor wanting to make a name for himself. DAs are politicians. They only care about getting re-elected. They don't give two sh!ts about anyone's kid, unless it advances their own career.

The color has been turned up and modified in those pics to make them look worse than they are. Once again, no one notices.

AP's real failure as a parent is not teaching his kid that #1 cops are not your friends, and #2 don't be a snitch, especially to the cops about your family. I was beaten that badly at that age. My mom liked the wire handle of the fly swatter. But even that young, I knew that running to the authorities to tell on her was not going to make my life any better.

While there are occasionally parents that abuse their kids, this is the other side of the coin. You cannot believe prosecutors and protective services when they claim a parent, especially the father, abused a child.

To me, abuse would need to constitute hitting without disciplinary justification especially with a closed fist areas outside of buttocks and back of the legs causing bruises or other injuries. While maybe excessive, I wouldn't consider a switch to the bottom or back of legs abuse. Sounds like this AP goes too far and is an idiot evidence by saying being an NFL player is like slavery, but I don't know that it constituted abuse in a criminal sense. I think parents should be given a lot of leeway.

For that young of a boy, this is WAY out of line! He needs to be in prison, where the guys will teach him about child abuse, count on that much.

I don't know about way out of line, and parents should be allowed to be out of align of public and government opinion. It should be a civil, social services counseling matter at most. That's how minor and supposed relationship "stalkers" use to were dealt with instead of making everything a criminal matter with more police state laws.

You justify prison violence and hypocritical vigilantism? That's just as wrong as real child abuse. Besides, I doubt any inmate is going to teach a 240lb or so athlete a lesson, maybe if they gang up or use a makeshift weapon. That's pretty low. The "justice" and "correction" system seems more about maliciously and unconstitutionally making some in it suffer and enriching the people running it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

If anyone wants to suddenly pretend to give a sh!t about kids, talk to a teacher at an inner-city ghetto public school. There are literally millions of parents out there who don't do anything at all as a parent, like feed their kid or pay attention to them at all. A lot of kids only get to eat from school lunches. The welfare money we throw at the problem ends up spent on drugs. Food stamps to cash has a street conversion rate of about 50%, but it's not like crack and heroin junkies are known for savvy financial investments. There's not enough jail cells in the world to lock up all the bad parents.

And we're going to ignore all that so we can feel uppity about judging someone who at least tried to be a parent?

 

[cordoncordon]

And we're going to ignore all that so we can feel uppity about judging someone who at least tried to be a parent?

Bro AP has up to 7 different children with multiple women born out of wedlock. Most who don't live with him, including the child in question here.

Let us also not forget he had a 2 year old son die of CHILD ABUSE. Abuse from a guy who was the bf of one of AP's ex's. Think about that. He has a son of his die from abuse, and yet he then does that to another one of his sons??? Do you realize how potato that is?

He is hardly the poster boy for being a great father.

 

[( . )( . )]

Beating his son like that is more akin to slavery than how the NFL owners treat their millionaire employees.

Why do self hating skittish white progtards always associate everything with "slavery" whenever something mildly negative is associated with blacks?

You sound absolutely ridiculous, your moral preening and manufactured and tiresome attempts to coax feeelz and display your status whoring is cringeworthy.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Bro AP has up to 7 different children with multiple women born out of wedlock. Most who don't live with him, including the child in question here.

Let us also not forget he had a 2 year old son die of CHILD ABUSE. Abuse from a guy who was the bf of one of AP's ex's. Think about that. He has a son of his die from abuse, and yet he then does that to another one of his sons??? Do you realize how potato that is?

He is hardly the poster boy for being a great father.

Still though as long as his children aren't on welfare and he didn't actually abuse one of his kids (it's alleged here), he might not be a great father, family man or person, but it's still mostly irrelevant to the fact of child abuse. What you said also applies to the mothers being bad mothers too, but that doesn't mean any of them committed child abuse either.

 

[cordoncordon]

Still though as long as his children aren't on welfare and he didn't actually abuse one of his kids (it's alleged here), he might not be a great father, family man or person, but it's still mostly irrelevant to the fact of child abuse. What you said also applies to the mothers being bad mothers too, but that doesn't mean any of them committed child abuse either.

True. Although as far as the issue of whether abuse happened or not, I think at this point that really isn't a question. AP has admitted to whipping him. The pictures are very clear. The cuts and lacerations and bruises are there for all to see. He went way way way too far. Now he may be f'd.

 

[zekko]

Still cannot believe some of you guys are defending this. And it seems as if all of the people who are defending it say things like "it happened to me as a kid, and I turned out alright". Really?

I agree considering that the kid is only four years old that he went too far. And there are also some other questionable behaviors at play here.

But I think there is a thin line sometimes between what would (or should) constitute child abuse. Our society has gotten pretty soft on the concept of physical discipline for children. If you accept that you can give a spanking with a switch, you WILL leave marks. You may well leave marks if you give a spanking with your hand.

I said before when I was in grade school our principal used to give spankings with "the board", which was a piece of wood with a handle on it. I imagine we could have taken some pictures and presented them here and everyone could be shocked about it. Yet no one thought twice about this then. Of course we're not talking about four year olds there. But honestly, I think the child discipline of that era was superior to what we see now, where the principal would probably go to jail or be sued for laying hands on a kid.

The question is where do you take the right of disciplining the child away from the father and the parents? Where do you draw the line?

Bro AP has up to 7 different children with multiple women born out of wedlock. Most who don't live with him, including the child in question here.

Guess that makes him the alpha male, yes?

 

[dasein]

He pushed a kid off a bike. He acted like any 4 year old does. Does that deserve for him to be lined up with his pants down, mouth full of leaves, and whipped to the point of multiple cuts and lacerations by a 240 pound football player? Like a slave???

What a pile of steaming hyperbole to describe switch marks on a kid's legs as indicia of slavery. LOL. Rest of your post is full of the same BS too, especially the part about supposed animal cruelty. It's absolutely NOT animal cruelty to use corporal discipline on dogs as part of their training when puppies. The kneejerk response to this doesn't surprise me at all, though, as the gynocracy Church of the Child view is rampant in our culture. There are all kinds of behaviors that "four year olds do" that need discipline, and if the father chooses a switch, so be it. Until it becomes real abuse, it's none of the state's or media's business.

Once more, the way this is being handled and reported shows just how far we have declined into emotion-laden gynocracy, and I'm pretty sure by now that the rest of the world finds the US an utter laughing stock over this and similar.

 

[cordoncordon]

What a pile of steaming hyperbole to describe switch marks on a kid's legs as indicia of slavery. LOL. Rest of your post is full of the same BS too, especially the part about supposed animal cruelty. It's absolutely NOT animal cruelty to use corporal discipline on dogs as part of their training when puppies. The kneejerk response to this doesn't surprise me at all, though, as the gynocracy Church of the Child view is rampant in our culture. There are all kinds of behaviors that "four year olds do" that need discipline, and if the father chooses a switch, so be it. Until it becomes real abuse, it's none of the state's or media's business.

Once more, the way this is being handled and reported shows just how far we have declined into emotion-laden gynocracy, and I'm pretty sure by now that the rest of the world finds the US an utter laughing stock over this and similar.

Just to give you a little perspective as to who I am. I don't have any kids. I think the people who rioted in Ferguson are the dregs of society and Brown was 100% to blame for what happened. I think our govt is a farce-as in all govt from Rep to Dem. Religion is a curse on our society. I coddle to no one.

So that being said, please tell me the difference between what happened to that 4 year old kid and a slave? Please. Both were stripped. Made to lay or stand in a prone position. And then whipped with some sort of foreign object until they were made to bleed. Really the only difference I can see is in this case the beating took place while the kids mouths were full of leaves and by a man who out weighed the kid by a factor of 6.

As far as comparing it to animal cruelty. Again, tell me where I am wrong? IF you whip or beat a race horse to the point of bleeding from open cuts and lacerations, as this child had, you get fined and suspended from racing and possibly investigated by the police. And if you line up your dog and whip him with a belt or a switch or what have you, to the point of having open wounds on him? I don't even know what to say to that other than you are a sick sick individual who I would like to meet someday.

 

[Stagger Lee]

What is "real abuse" and who decides that?

Not liberal feminists I hope (not implying you're one at all btw).

Anyway, I think we have historical precedent for determining what constitutes corporal discipline and what's child abuse. Liberals are always wanting to change or "fix" things that aren't really broken resulting in breaking things.

 

[cordoncordon]

Reports out that he is now being investigated for abuse of a second son. Leaving a scar on his forehead.

Running back of peace.

http://www.khou.com/story/news/inve...r-son-while-disciplining-4-year-old/15693941/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming4

 

[Jaylan]

Reports out that he is now being investigated for abuse of a second son. Leaving a scar on his forehead.

Running back of peace.

http://www.khou.com/story/news/inve...r-son-while-disciplining-4-year-old/15693941/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming4

And yet people wanna whine about liberals and the media when this stuff comes to light. How about not being a d!ckbag that hurts women and children that cant defend themselves? These guys deserve all the scrutiny they are getting.

Like you said bro, weird that corporal punishment against small humans can be seen as more ok than it being done to animals.

 

[Fatal Jay]

Not excusing anyone's actions but...

The media sit on these stories and then let them out daily. Last week was a steady diet of Ray Rice, and this week is a steady diet of Peterson. It's high tech lynching, made to batter the NFL and get angry keyboard jockeys to click on links and express indignation. Nobody really cares about the victims, they want to use it for their own aims. They most certainly do not care about due process. If someone can't be throw in the clink then they want them to be fired now so they can feel better. Seventeen hundred men play in the NFL and right now a handful are in trouble for domestic violence, yet it's become a national obsession. Is the NFL too big? Too corporate? Too male?

Next week it will be some other athlete, or some actor, or some thing that someone did that everyone must be very angry about and demand insta-justice. In the old days you'd just don the white hood and round 'em up, but who needs to spill blood when you can deliver death by 1,000,000 mouse clicks? I guess we can't get the men in ISIS fired, so we control what we can here with our meager power and armchair indignation.

True, people let the new think for them, and what I mean by that. Whatever scandal is on the news people thoughts are filled with that nonsense, so if the news does a scandal about babies getting raped by pigs, this board would have some dude posting about it.

 

[zekko]

I was watching some of First Take on ESPN this morning, and Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless, and Cari Champion were all discussing this (of course Smith was previously suspended for not putting the right spin on the Ray Rice story). Anyway, all three agreed that it was child abuse. But all three also said that they had received whoopings when they were kids that would have resulted in arrests today.

I thought that was interesting. What was considered normal back in the 70s is now considered abuse. I'm not going to defend Peterson because it looks like there are some red flags here, but I do wonder where the line should be drawn. It seems to me that we've gotten too soft about discipline these days, whereas maybe we weren't as sensitive to it as we could have been when I was growing up. For the legal system to come in and take over from the parents, IMO that should require a very high standard.