About a Women's Guy Friends

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Lots of women have guy "friends."

The question is...What is the best way to deal with these other guy friends if you are pursuing a girl? Some people feel that in terms of a relationship, their rule is that no associating with these friends (meaning that if the girl is with him, then he doesn't want her going associating with these so called friends..and he tells her this).

But I feel that one shouldn't even bring this up to her. She is going to what she ultimately wants to do, and whenever one sets down a rule, not only does he appear insecure, but he is also asking for his rule to be broken.

What's your guys' take on this? Is the best way to deal with a girls' guy friends just to ignore them, and instead focus on building her IL to the point where you are confident she wouldn't do anything with them anyway? Or would you actually confront the girl about these guy friends?
 

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She is going to what she ultimately wants to do





and if your game is good..... she will want you





i dunno if its the right thing to do but personally i make friends with them..... since im such a fun guy im showering her that i can make friends with anybody. I think its good to makes friends with her friends it shows your taking the time to get to know other parts of her life. I think ignoring them would not look good and maby awkward. I'd just be friendly
 

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Is the best way to deal with a girls' guy friends just to ignore them, and instead focus on building her IL to the point where you are confident she wouldn't do anything with them anyway
You got it. If she strays and ends up with one of her guy "friends", you know that your game was not tight enough and therfore you lost her.

Any confertation with her guy friends will make you look jealous and insecure and her IL will drop.

The rule however does not apply to attension wh0res because they will cheat on you no matter how tight your game is.
 

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im a friendly guy so i make friends with everyone regardless if they are friends with her or not. Thats just who i am. Im not gonna let a chick get in the way of meeting new ppl
 

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This has been said a lot in SoSuave. Girls with a lot of guy friends is very significant. It means half of her guy friends want to bang her. It also means she might be too much of a nutcase to deal with women.

It's always better to date a woman that has mostly girlfriends, equal guy/girlfriends, or even 1/none friends. I know girls *IN REAL LIFE* and dated them that have like 20-30 guys on their cell phone list but yet only have less than 5 girlfriends. Let me tell you something, all their brain is not all there. And if you do something wrong they'll just ignore you and hang out with their many other male friends they can hang out with.

So is the only key here is to stay in constant contact with those girls? I guess so, but the thought her being available to a bunch of guys just irks me. I'm very very sure women feel the same way if she found out you had 5 female friends to 1 male friend ratio. And from your POV the girl that is really interested in you is a maggot compared to the plentiful women on your list.
 

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Originally posted by DeathDealer
This has been said a lot in SoSuave. Girls with a lot of guy friends is very significant. It means half of her guy friends want to bang her. It also means she might be too much of a nutcase to deal with women.
Come on now, so what if other guys want to do her. Don't YOU want to do some other guy's girl? And why would she be a nutcase
It's always better to date a woman that has mostly girlfriends, equal guy/girlfriends, or even 1/none friends. I know girls *IN REAL LIFE* and dated them that have like 20-30 guys on their cell phone list but yet only have less than 5 girlfriends. Let me tell you something, all their brain is not all there. And if you do something wrong they'll just ignore you and hang out with their many other male friends they can hang out with.
I don't know where you get that from. Unless they are teenie-boppers, women may have one or tw good girlfriends at most. The one's that are on the ball will tell you that they prefer guys over girls as friends because women are catty and back stabbers. It sounds as if you're attracted to the teenie-boppers who are as bad as the guys that just collect tons of phone numbers to boost their ego. If your woman feels that she needs to turn to other guys for attention that's your fault for either not qualifying her or keeping her interest.

So is the only key here is to stay in constant contact with those girls? I guess so, but the thought her being available to a bunch of guys just irks me. I'm very very sure women feel the same way if she found out you had 5 female friends to 1 male friend ratio. And from your POV the girl that is really interested in you is a maggot compared to the plentiful women on your list.
Oh this is TOO AFC. Stay in constant contact with them???:confused: Don't you have anything better to do? Don't you have your own life? I don't know what else I can say.... :rolleyes:
 

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Chris Rock said, "a guy friend is a d!ck in a glass case... In case of emergency, break open glass!"

This means 100% of her guy friends want to bang her. Think about it. How many 500 lb chicks are you "friends" with?

In the early stages of my relationship with my ex wife, her guy friends were a huge issue. She used to use them to rattle my cage and try to get the upper hand in the relationship. I gave her an ultimatum and she got rid of them, but it should never have to come to an ultimatum.

My feeling is that an earlier poster was right, if they associate mostly with men, there's something defective. Lots of women are good friends with a certain number of women.

My current personal policy is, if I am just banging a girl, I could care less about who she's friends with. But if I want to pursue a relationship, commit to her in any way, there must not be guy friends there to begin with. To do so is asking for trouble.

-Frank.
 

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So if you comit to a woman, you'd give up all of your girl friends too, right? Fair is fair, isn't it?

I don't know, I wouldn't be able to handle it if I was the type of guy that couldn't trust his girl. That seems like a lot of anxiety to carry around.
 

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I have actually had a conversation with a girl about the issue of guy friends. Basically I told her that despite what she may think, a guy "friend" is really just a chump who wants to have something more serious go on with her, but is too chumpish to know how to do it.

She got kinda pissed and claimed it wasn't true. But I am sure that women really know it's true, and they like it.
 

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They try to play you at first so be on your toes.

After awhile you can make a connection(I'm in communications I can't help but make new contacts).

And it's always good to meet new people.It's one of the ways I actually meet new freinds..through women.
 

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"a guy friend is a d!ck in a glass case... In case of emergency, break open glass!"

haha, that's funny, but oh so true!

if they associate mostly with men, there's something defective.

I have to agree with this one. The women that say other girls are 'catty and back stabbers' or 'they can't be trusted' (i've heard this many times myself) are usually the ones that can't be trusted. Does this apply to every girl with mostly guy friends? Probably not, but I would say most of them.

If your woman feels that she needs to turn to other guys for attention that's your fault for either not qualifying her or keeping her interest.

This is a good point. If you play your cards right, it won't matter how many guy friends she has because all her attention would be on you.
 

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You guys need to stop analyzing the behavior of women while thinking like a man...

1. Women CAN be friends with a guy and NOT want to have more with him.

2. Groups of women ARE catty, backstabbing and biotchy. This is especially true in work situations and anywhere groups of women congregate.

3. If a woman is using a male friend as a "d*ck in a glass case" then it's obvious...she flirts with him and he wants her and everyone knows it but she pretends not to see it. Not all women do this.

4. If a woman has had a male friend for several years, they hang out regularly and they have never dated or had sex during that time...they most likely never will.

5. Men are easier to get along with, especially if a woman is interested in more than make up, shopping, fashion and getting their hair and nails done.

6. Men who get jealous over a woman's male friends are insecure. If she wanted her male friend she would be dating him instead of you.

7. Men who demand a woman give up her friends, male or otherwise, are not dateable, in my opinion. If a guy I was dating or involved with told me to choose between him and my friends...I would dump him on the spot.
 

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Originally posted by WORKEROUTER


She got kinda pissed and claimed it wasn't true. But I am sure that women really know it's true, and they like it.
No, work, I have found that most really are totally clueless ot this fact. ALL her guy friends wanna bang her. Need some proof? Next time, take a look around. You ever notice that fat, unnactractive girls never have alot of attractive guy friends, except for maybe a few slobs? Its because a guy will only be friends with a girl he would bang. Girls really are clueless and oblivious to this fact.

Funny thing is, when a girl grows older and married, all her guy friends dissappear....hmmm, wonder why?
 

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To the "MEN" in here that say that girls are normal to have a bunch of male friends. I wonder if these same men hang around with ONLY WOMEN and not men.

Cause there are "FALSE" Don Juans out there, they are men out there that hang with only women and not men because they can't handle the competition or dislike hanging around other men. These men also have interelationship problems.

Normal girls hang around girls around their age and do things together, gossip, shopping. Abnormal girls hang around guys and rarely connect with any girl and if they do it's obvious they are from two different planets.
 

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Originally posted by DeathDealer
To the "MEN" in here that say that girls are normal to have a bunch of male friends. I wonder if these same men hang around with ONLY WOMEN and not men.

Cause there are "FALSE" Don Juans out there, they are men out there that hang with only women and not men because they can't handle the competition or dislike hanging around other men. These men also have interelationship problems.

Normal girls hang around girls around their age and do things together, gossip, shopping. Abnormal girls hang around guys and rarely connect with any girl and if they do it's obvious they are from two different planets.
Um...when did a woman having male friends turn into her having ONLY male friends? I don't know about the rest of you, but beyond the 4th or 5th grade I stopped believing that boys have "cooties". Normal, healthy human beings are able to and DO form friendships with both men and women, regardless of their gender.

I have both male and female friends (I am a woman). However, I do NOT like to hang out with groups of women because the female "pack" mentality involves far too much drama and negativity for my tastes. I don't particularly enjoy shopping or talking about fashion, gossip, hair, make up and manicures. I'd rather discuss politics, social issues, current events and the like. The fact that a woman such as myself is confident and secure enough in herself to choose her friends based on intellectual and personality compatibility rather than gender is hardly a sign of being "abnormal". In fact, the opposite is actually true. Anyone who limits their associations because of what others might think or say would be the person with some adjustment issues.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire

1. Women CAN be friends with a guy and NOT want to have more with him.
True, however it's not the woman who is the operative in this. The question is whether or not a guy can be 'friends' with woman and not want more. As friendship implies a mutual understanding between parties, a guy's motivation for friendship (whether he's conscious of it or not) will always be an issue in any intersexual relationship.

2. Groups of women ARE catty, backstabbing and biotchy. This is especially true in work situations and anywhere groups of women congregate.
This is the method women use to fight when they compete for a common reinforcement - attention. Girls as young as 5 years old will display this group/social behavior. Women fight with ostracization from their grouping. They fight with innuendo and 'dirty' looks, they fight with the sublimenal. However they're fighting for the same resource which is attention. Either attention from each other or from the opposite sex, it's attention that is the reinforcer and affirmer for their own self-worth and their status within the group. Whereas men fight in the physical, women fight in the mental, which honestly can potentially be more damaging.

3. If a woman is using a male friend as a "d*ck in a glass case" then it's obvious...she flirts with him and he wants her and everyone knows it but she pretends not to see it. Not all women do this.
No, because all women do not have the same establishing operations with regards to garnering attention. Not all women do this, yet it's a common enough behavior to see it evidenced. Her actions may be obvious to others, but not to the guy or the girl because they are the active parties. The reason the joke is funny is because the behavior happens with such frequency that people can identify with it. It's no secret that attractive women tend to keep a 'bullpen' of male 'friends' warming up and strung along under the pretense of friendship. This in no way means that she'll eventually become intimate with any of them (in fact just the opposite really), but they aren't held in reserve for the purpose of intimacy in case of emergency. They are a reliable source of attention which is a primary reinforcer her and the 'bullpen' members attention will do in the absence of that of a boyfriend.

4. If a woman has had a male friend for several years, they hang out regularly and they have never dated or had sex during that time...they most likely never will.
Basically true, unfortunately most guys - AFCs in particular - still cling to the notion that eventually if he proves himself as a 'good friend' and plays by her rules long enough he will become intimate with her at a later time. The other myth of intersexual friendship is that of the male/female 'hang out' schema. I can't tell you how many guys run the "we hang out a lot" line at me when I question their motives about a female 'friend'. What exactly does 'hanging out' entail? How much hanging out do men and women do as friends once they're in an LTR or married to another person? As friends I'd trust that they share common interests, yet whenever I go a bit deeper 'hanging out' always comes down to the guy being a good listener for his female friend's personal life issues, rather than participating in the same activities that their same sex friends enjoy together. Guys in general also tend to tolerate the annoying behaviors from their female 'friends' that they would otherwise resist with their male friends. Not so with women, leading to the belief that there is another dynamic working for men in an intersexual friendship that does not come in to play for women or if so, not so noticible.

5. Men are easier to get along with, especially if a woman is interested in more than make up, shopping, fashion and getting their hair and nails done.
Not suprising, since women who aren't interested in the blatantly superficial meanings of the activities you've described are usually required to use other methods to attract the attention of men.

6. Men who get jealous over a woman's male friends are insecure. If she wanted her male friend she would be dating him instead of you.
I agree totally. The easiest way to display a lack of confidence is to allow a woman see you become posessive over her. All this translates to is a guy not being confident enough to achieve intimacy from other women if his woman is testing this by maintaining a cuckold of male friends.
I do however disagree with your second point. It's all too common a situation that a woman lacks the integrity to be upfront about her intentions and enjoys the security she receives from the boyfriend, but still desires the attentions of a desirable male. Your statement makes the assumption that women operate under benevolent intent. Lots of women have their cake and eat it too. The whole reason this thread is a common one is because men sense this on some level.

7. Men who demand a woman give up her friends, male or otherwise, are not dateable, in my opinion. If a guy I was dating or involved with told me to choose between him and my friends...I would dump him on the spot.
You would unless his attention was more reinforcing than maintaining the appearance of steadfast adhereance to your very ideology. You'd be suprised what people would be willing to sacrifice for what they perceive as quality intimacy. Rare is the man who has the sack large enough to even suggest a woman ought to put off her friends (male or otherwise), but the point is the guy should never be in the position of having to make an ultimatum like this - the woman (and man) should know this intrinsically. If you have a quality relationship it's simply a matter of course to want to exclusively attend to the person you're intimate with, and any exceptions imply a less than ideal situation in the relationship. Being married for 8.5 years, my wife asks me if she can go to see friends out of respect and a desire to accomoddate me and I respond in kind when I am doing something social without her, but the fact remains that we do this because we are our first priorities to each other rather than it being an insecurity or posessiveness that debilatates us.
 

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nah, ****s gay...all ur askin is need some ****? if ur even talking to the ho, dont even lie.
 
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