AAAgent's Approach journal

[AAAgent]

Second date with blind date. She's an HB8 since i didn't mention in the previous post. Dirty blonde, 5'9, thin but not too skinny, and well off.

We had some small banter through texting the next day about football but no further texting or anything after that until 3 days after the date. I called her 3 days later and she didn't answer. I sent her a text to give me a call when she was free. she called me back 20 minutes later. talked about dinner since it was dinner time, a few other things, and i setup the second date for friday as i was flying to vegas on Sunday and needed to head back up to NYC on saturday (she's in philly and im moving back to philly in a few months at this point).

I told her i'd pick her up and choose a spot close to her since she came out to philly last time which was a bit far from where she lives in philly burbs. I texted her the day of the date to get her home address and picked her up at her house at 8pm for dinner. Rang the bell, she invited me in and I walked her to my car. Luckily i showed up a bit early to scope out the restaurant cuz the parking lot was very awkward. The place was byob which i confirmed when making reservations so i bought 2 bottles of wine, 1 for the restaurant and another to bring back to her place if things escalated. Date was going well, we got dessert and finished the bottle of wine. She offered to split the check but it was like $40 so i said no. Looking back, I should have split it to make her invest a bit more, amateur mistake. The previous date she did buy me a drink. She asked where to next at the end of dinner. I guess she expected another adventure with me.......but my thinking was that we already bonded the first date, i need to escalate further now. So i suggested we go back to her place and hang out for a bit more, I have another bottle of wine in the car. She agreed.

We get back to her place, her dad dropped off her dog, so her dog thats a 7month puppy is there and is scared of me. Eventually her big puppy comes up to me all shy and since I love dogs, I make her dog feel comfortable and rub her belly. 10 seconds later her dog loves me to death and hb8 is getting angry that her dog won't leave us alone and keeps wanting to sit on my lap. Hb8 locks up her dog and gives me a full tour of the house and her porch, basement including the bar her dad and brothers built. We open the bottle of wine and I suggest we sit down and watch a movie. we look for whats on demand and put on a horror flick. Insidious 3 or 4. Can't remember which.

5 minutes in I have my arm around her and 10 minutes in we're making out. I grab her hand with mine to hold and bring her closer. I begin rubbing her legs....no resistance, then i move slowly up to her breast and rub outside. No resistance. I go back down to her legs and rub again then go inbetween her legs and rub briefly. I take a quick break, watch some more movie and proceed again with the legs and then under her shirt. Still no resistance. I then move her hand onto my pants and make her rub my **** over my pants. I remove my hand and she keeps hers there continuing to rub. I ask her to move this to her room (she lives with her male cousin as he rents a room in her house...male cousin was going to come home at some point so I thought to plan ahead and not make things awkward). She says it's a bad time for her, meaning she's on her period so I said okay. She asks me to unzip my pants, and i do, and she begins to go to work . I'm rubbing her ass inside her pants since she's leaning over me from the side. after 5 minutes she comes back up and asks me if there's anything else i want her to do or if i want her to stop. I said she's good and no I want her to keep going. She goes down for another 5 minutes or so and comes back up to make out some more and get closer and hold hands.

Her cousin comes home later and sees us in the dark. We briefly say high and i hide my unzipped pants by pulling over my dress shirt. I eventually call it a night and leave. Both dates she mentioned that her BDAY is next week and she had no plans.

 

[AAAgent]

Im in vegas and I follow-up with HB8 via text since she's made it clear on both dates that she didn't have any plans for her birthday. I really didn't want to rush into planning a birthday thing but it just bad timing. I can't hold off because we're going on dates on the weekend and leaving an entire weekend (basically 2 weeks) of not seeing each other, early on, isn't good for progress. I keep my bold and directness and reach back out, via text since i can't make calls and our time zones are different, since im in vegas for work.

AAA: Hey, Keep your weekend open, I have plans for us.
AAA: Try to get a dog sitter if you can.

1.5 days later

HB8: Hey, sorry i've been crazy busy with work this week. Two things. My sister made plans for me and my girlfriends friday night, and I have plans with my mom saturday afternoon. How's Vegas going?
AAA: (1 hour later) Aww....that's a bummer. Let's catch up next time then. Vegas is good, it's a great work trip for me.

No response. Two days later is her birthday and i text her in the morning "Happy birthday! Have fun tomorrow." No response. I call later on in the night to wish her Happy Birthday over the phone and no answer. I went no contact for 2 weeks. I already know i've been put on the backburner and I didn't really get why at the time, but I tried to send a last ditch text.

AAA: Hey, haven't had a chance to catch-up with you. Any chance your free this weekend?

No response and it's been a week already as of yesterday. It's done and over. Since it was a blind date, i just want to make sure i didn't make my cousin look bad. She stopped asking about how we're doing and i don't offer any information. I assume she found out we're not talking anymore. She's also still mentioning she wants to set me up, so i guess i didn't do anything wrong.

I didn't really notice where I went wrong but after writing this all out, I can see a few little things that went wrong on the second date. Should have made her invest by splitting the bill. She was expecting another amazing adventure since that was how we ended the first date. I should have atleast made it a bit more interesting instead of trying to shag right away. I should have worked up her sexual tension more than what I just did, even though she was on her period.

Got 2 strippers numbers and 1 wanted to go home with me. Will provide updates on this later.

 

[evan12]

oh man you still approaching , good for you , it is being 2 years I think , did you got any gf or serial dates ?

 

[AAAgent]

oh man you still approaching , good for you , it is being 2 years I think , did you got any gf or serial dates ?

If you read my last 3 posts, I was in a relationship all of 2014. I broke up with the girl end of 2014, spent most of my savings trying to launch a startup that never took off. Got back in the job market, spent the last 9 months picking myself back up and getting situated and just started dating again.

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The day i gave my two weeks notice to quit my job, some co workers and I went out for drinks and eventually ended up at a strip club. Most of the night sucked since we were there at like 7pm. Ugly girls and the one or two cute girls we asked dances from were booked until like 9-10pm. There was a super hot girl that we all wanted that was dancing on stage. We all agreed we wanted a dance from her (I go for fun....this is more fun than taking shots all night and puking). As she came off the stage this table of two guys stopped her and was talking to her....We already lost a couple of other cute girls and I didn't want to do lose this hot one and not get a dance. I asked my co workers if they wanted her, we'd have to go get her. I said i'd man up and bring her here if they each buy 2 dances from her. Including myself which i planned for 1 dance, that's 5 dances at $100. They agreed to get two dances a piece and I walked over to her at the table of two guys and tapped her on the shoulder.

I forget exactly what I said but I told her If we were going to get 5 dances from her, would she come over. Basically interrupting her convo with the other guys. She said sure she'd come over but i'd have to give her 2 minutes. I did and went back to my co workers and started chatting and laughing. Letting them know she'll come when she's ready. Totally forget what happened to her, but a few minutes later i saw her at the bar. I realize we might lose her again and I walk up to her asking her what happened and that we wanted her to come over. She's easily an HB9. Thick ass, has implants, she said she really had to go see a regularl but she could give me a quick dance if i wanted. She gave me 4 dances, let me touch ass and tits. When i touched her tits she said she'd get in trouble if anyone saw....so i backed off for a bit and went back up to touch a 30 seconds seconds later. I asked about her tattoo's, her necklace, her passion, her travel experiences, etc. Had a good chat but she said she was already late and really had to go. I asked for her number and she obliged and only charged me for 2 dances (just give me whatever you have and that'll be fine). I texted her something stupid and she never responded and I left it at that. beautiful puerto rican, italian, and Filipino.

earlier this week we go again because my co worker wants to go again before he fly's back to london and we do. We go back to the same place because who gives a fvck right? They're not as ugly tonight but it's a freaking monday and there aren't that many available strippers. We sit around for a few brews and my home boy at work sees this girl on stage he wants. He goes up to her and asks her for a dance. She obliges. She comes back to our table and I can tell right away she's digging me. I'm a huge playboy and pretty ****y/confident when I feel like it. But for some reason I felt like she was interested in me so I play aloof and reserved. Stripper talks to the 3rd co worker for a bit and then talks to me. She asks me a few questions I give her curt answers but maintain conversation. She asks why i'm so shy and announces my shyness to my coworkers...my boy laughs and says im not shy. I step up my shy game a bit more as she wraps her legs around mine. She tries to keep the group engaged and talk to all of us and as she talks to another co worker....I back up my seat a few inches just to get more space. She notices this, and reaches her leg over to hook mine to not let me slip away. I don't move and maintain that distance and she comes closer and we chat a bit more.

HBStrip:When's your birthday?
AAA: April..
HBStrip: What day is it?
AAA: Why?
HBStrip: Oh I just want to know what sign you are.
AAA: umm.....okay. It's the xxxx.
HBStrip:........Ohhhh! You're an Aries.
AAA: Yeah.
HBStrip:.....I'm a gemini...we're supposed to be soul mates!
AAA: I doubt that. When is your birthday?
HBStrip: i'm telling the truth haha! and it's in June xxx.
AAA: I'll believe it when i see it....but I guess my best friends birthday is around then...so that's interesting.
HBStrip: SEE....I TOLD YOU! Loosen up a bit. Don't be shy, i don't bite. Do you want a dance to loosen up?
AAA: I think i'm okay for now. Maybe after this drink. I'll be right back.

I get up to run to the rest room and come back and she's talking to the other two again and hops right back next to me when i sit down. I finish my beer and buy another round and she keeps being persistent and asks if I want a dance. I say maybe in a bit. She says I should buy her a patron margherita.

HBStrip: You should get me a Patron Margherita.
AAA: Isn't that going to be like $30. No thanks. If it's $20 I'd still have to think about it.
HBStrip: Oh, I'm not sure how much it is.
AAA: Let me ask the waitress. (I ask her and she says all drinks are $9)
AAA: It's your lucky day.
HBStrip: haha thanks.

Drinks come and we all start drinking the next round and eventually she says my drink is done and I should get a dance or atleast sit over there privately. I agree and we sit together and i finally get a dance from her. I don't touch her really. not even ass and barely touch her legs to maintain my image. She says its okay to touch a little and i rest my hands on her thighs. She asks me questions about s3x and what I like, i flip the script on her. She says she likes to be tied up and sh1t.

HBStrip: Do you like to be dominated.
AAA: What?!
HBSTrip: Oh, I mean do you like to be in control or let someone else take control.
AAA: I don't think about it like that. I do what I want, try different things if I want.
HBStrip: Oh....okay. What about letting someone else take control...
AAA: Umm...no.
HBStrip: No, I mean....you know take care of you and make you feel good.
AAA: THen, yes.....

Then she talks more about tying me up, etc. and I say no. we finish the dance and she begins rubbing my **** through my pants and gets even closer. I leave in a few minutes and she asks me to stay longer with her...I tell her no and that I have to go...she insists and say's if i stay we can go home together. I say no and get up to leave but ask for her number as my co workers have to leave. She not only enters her number and her name....she dials her number from my phone....I asked why she did that..... (One because most strippers don't do that....i knew she wanted my number but wanted to make her sweat) she didn't say anything. I leave and she texts me the next day. I let her know i want to see her and ask if she's free, which she says she is. We agree to meet up at 8pm....Then she finds out im far from her and cancels last minute because I live in a borough far from her (She asked if i lived in that area i suggested....I said yes....she was like oh im going to work then). I was too lazy to follow-up.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Much respect on the journal. Instead of bunch dumb ass questions, (that as one poster so stated,) can be answered by reading the DJ Bible or a quick Google search, this what So Suave so desperately needs, cats that willing to put this sh*t into practice, be willing to make mistakes, gain much needed experience, and tell us about it.

First off, stop asking chicks for sh*t. Your journal implies that you're in sales or your vocation has sales component involved in it, so from going to work everyday, you know that you just can't "quick close," a client. Yeah, you'll get some roll over sells on occasion, but for the most part you have to build a minimum level of rapport, then tell your prospective client what it is you want he or she to do, all the while coming up with rebuttals to their objections.

The same principle applies to chicks. By asking a chick to dinner without separating yourself from the plethora of other men who's trying to hit that ass, you're setting yourself up for instant rejection.

Women cheat on their boyfriends and husbands all of the time, (e.g. The t.v. show Cheaters and the website that's dedicated to facilitating cheating, Ashley Madison,) Maybe these women legitimately have boyfriends and were happy in their relationships, but from the way you described how the interaction went down, it sounds like the broads were merely trying to get rid of you.

I suggest that you make the instadate part of your game. Since you're in NYC, long into your memory banks spots you would bounce to if she were down. Take note of all of those damn Starbucks, Five Guys, Chiptoles and Shake Shacks that are everywhere. There's the bars on 2nd, 3rd Aves, and on Bowery. I would personally recommend Republic on Union Square West between 16th and 17th Streets. I've personally taken chicks there and they've all love it, get the seared salmon.

Finally, the stripper b*tches. I just gotta laugh because you became victim to stripper hoe game. LOL.

You have to not only appreciate, but fully accept and understand the hoe/trick dynamic that's taking place in the nudey bar.

Now, if you're going into the nudey bar to trick off money, cop some feels, and have the b*tch grind her ass in your crotch for 4:30, go right ahead, trick on and have fun trickin', but understand and accept the fact that that b*tch now sees you as a trick, and trick you will forever be.

I hate to break it to you, but it's best you hear it from me on here, (as opposed to wasting a gang of time and money on a scandalous ass stripper b*tch who'll cause you nothing but grief.)

When you bought those dances from ole girl you immediately became a trick and the only reason why she gave you her number was because she saw the trickin' potential in you.

Now if you want to pull a stripper b*tch from her job, (I've never done it, but I heard this info from guys who have,) you to come at those hoes with straight game.

You have to tell the broad you like that you're just in spot to relax and have some drinks. If ole girl presses you for a dance or drink, you tell her this verbatim. "Listen, I'm not in here on some trickin' sh*t like these other muthaf*ckas, so I'm not going to buy you a drink or get a dance. However, I like and admire that hustler's spirit you have about yourself. I'm in (say your profession,) and if you know anything about "said profession," you know I'm serious about getting my money, just like you, girl. I've noticed you when I came in here and I see how you're breaking these tricks. Not only do I like that, I really respect it. But I've already taken up too much of your time. You get back to work and come speak to me when you're on break."

Now that doesn't mean you start trickin' with other stripper b*tches in the club because if ole girl sees you tipping, buying drinks and dances for her co-workers she'll know that you were full of sh@t.

The above is straight up pimp game and coming at a stripper b*tch like this establishes several important precedents.

5) You respect her profession.

4) You respect her.

3) You not only understand, but accepts how she earns her money.

2) You're nonjudgmental.

and most importantly,

1) You're a not trick. Hell, if you pimp accordingly, you might be able to get some of those stripper hoe dollars from her.

This game comes with one caveat, if you catch her with pimpin', you have to keep giving her pimpin' to keep her. In other words, you have to be all alpha, all of the time. Quoting Bishop Don Magic Juan, "They'll test you, man."

She has to know that she's expendable and she can easily replaced with chick that is not only hotter than she is, but one with a more mailable personality.

She has to know that you'll leave her never to return. She has to know that bad behavior is never condoned and is always punished.

She has to know that you're not smitten by her extraordinary good looks and sex appeal. This is very important to remember because sex and sex appeal are tools utilized in her trade. If she realizes that she can control and manipulate you via sex, than your no different than the tricks at her job. Remember, she's f*ckin' with you because you said you weren't about that trickin' sh*t.

Lastly, NO DOUGH! As Gorgeous Dre so eloquently said on the seminal documentary American Pimp, "Her job is to manipulate men, so it's only natural that she'll only do it with you."

I'm assuming that you frequent classier gentlemen's clubs that carter to a higher end clientele. That means ole girl should always have some money. If she comes to you asking for Gucci bags, Christian Louboutin red bottom shoes, a Burberry trench coat, or for some money, kindly remind her that you're not a trick and if she's making "x" amount of dollars, she should be able to buy that sh*t for herself. If starts to argue that you should help her out, then say, "Okay, I'll help you out. Only the condition that you let me manage your money because it seems you're having difficulty in this area. This means you're going have to give me your nightly tip out."

Ole girl will do one of two things. She'll realize that you won't give her money or expensive things and stop asking you to trick.

If she does agree to the arrangement and give you her money, then congratulations AAAgent, you've just entered world of pimpin' and hoin'.

Off topic, I just wanted to know is your screen name pronounced, "Double A Agent," or "Triple AAA Gent?"

 

[macallik]

Good to see you restarting a journal. As for the older woman that your friend hooked you up with, I highly doubt that the reason she is MIA is because you paid for her dinner. If you have racked your brain and that is the best thing that you can come up with, then you just have to chalk it up to randomness and move onto the next girl. The same thing has happened to me on a few occasions and you never know what is going on in the background. She could've had a death in the family, been fired from a job, etc, or it could be something random like an ex she still has feelings for re-entered her life or her phone broke or she is out of the country, etc.

As for the stripper, I don't really have a comment there. I think that strippers tend to be low quality in terms of what the bring to the table outside of looks and that you can invest your time more wisely in a woman who you don't have to pay to see and who doesn't flirt with men for a living. She might be on the straight and narrow but there is a much higher probability that a stripper comes with more drama than the average person, both mentally and in her surroundings. I really would steer clear personally but I know a lot of guys get off on telling other guys they are dating a stripper so whatevez.

 

[AAAgent]

It's pronounced AAA-gent.

I'm actually moving back to the south jersey/Philly area. My new job starts on Monday, so I've been just out partying it up. Not out to wife strippers just out to have fun and see if I can bag one. Last night out in NYC was yesterday and I had this one stripper who I actually had an intelligent conversation with. We were talking so long she seemed to become infatuated with me. Her pvssy was so wet that she left a wet mark on my leg and switched over to the other leg and apologized... I never touched her pvssy at all. She stayed with me for an hour and said she really had to go to work. She gave me a dance and she saved her number in my phone with her first and last name which was a good sign. Def her real name since I found her on fb. I called today but didn't get an answer. We'll see if she responds. She kept stroking my ego saying how cute I was, that I was intelligent, and she felt like she found her soulmate. I'm not an idiot and none of that phased me but if she follows through then I'll know we had a good connection.

As for hb8 that I was setup with. My cousin works with her and they're both pharmacy managers at a hospital under the same boss. She was the one who setup the date and my friend gave me some backup as he's dating her best friend. Hb8 is perfectly fine and working, etc. if she was still interested my cousin would have let me know....and my cousin probably asked how the dates were and it probably wasn't good since she stopped asking me and talking about setting me up again.

I'm going to start the bootcamp again and hope to finish it for the first time.

 

[Maximus Rex]

It's pronounced AAA-gent.

Thanks, I was just trippin' on how to pronounce your screen name.

I'm actually moving back to the south jersey/Philly area. My new job starts on Monday,

Good luck.

I had this one stripper who I actually had an intelligent conversation with.

What did you talk about?

We were talking so long she seemed to become infatuated with me.

I'm typing this on my phone, otherwise there would be a clip from American Pimp, where Charm the Pimp talks about it's a hoe's job to have a trick in a state of mind where he'd give her anything she asked for.

Her pvssy was so wet that she left a wet mark on my leg and switched over to the other leg and apologized...

Dude, you know f*cked up right? Did you not read that hella long post I made about the hoe/trick dynamic in nudey bars? You don't show any affection or any type of intimacy with a stripper b*tch while she's at work.

I never touched her pvssy at all.

Doesn't matter, she already has her mind made up about you.

She stayed with me for an hour and said she really had to go to work.

Man, you stay f*cking up in the game. You let a stripper b*tch sit in you lap for an hour. You were suppose to have her sit in the chair next to you then after 15 or 20 minutes, send back to work and come at you when she was on break. If she was on break, then you should have gotten her number and bounced.

She y me a
dance

Yep she definitely has you in a trick bag now.

and she saved her number in my phone with her first and last name which was a good sign.

No it's not. You fell victim to her stripper b*tch hoe game.

She kept stroking my ego saying how cute I was, that I was intelligent, and she felt like she found her soulmate. I'm not an idiot and none of that phased me

That's good. You didn't fall victim to that part of her hoe game.

but if she follows through then I'll know we had a good connection.

Dude if she calls you, (due to the mistakes that you made,) she's going to think you're on some trickin' sh*t.

Stripper b*tches aren't like regular chicks. They're quasi or are actually prostitutes. So when you allow them to use intimacy and on you (even if it's free,) in the worksite, you become a trick to her. Why didn't send her back to work like I advised you to in the other post?

I'm going to start the bootcamp again and hope to finish it for the first time.

Why didn't you finish it the first time?[/QUOTE]

 

[AAAgent]

I'm not trying to learn hoe/trick dynamic. Just trying have fun, especially since last week was my last week in NYC as a resident and I was celebrating getting a new banging job. If something happens, then it happens, as long as its under terms im okay with.

Back in the burbs now, still getting situated at my new job while living at home for a few months just to maximize money in the bank while I buy a new car. Will get back on the real grind soon.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Good to see you back AAA. I recently had to bring my journal back to because I got out of a two year relationship. Sounds like to me you pretty much went broke trying to go the entrepreneurial route. You gotta lose some and your going to win one day. It's good to see you trying. However, I wouldn't be in a strip club. I've been once in my life and I didn't spend a dime. I was more concerned what was on ESPN then those money stealing *****s. They just want attention and your money. I would never go back. I rather go to a club and pull my own pu$sy which is going to be free.

 

[Maximus Rex]

I'm not trying to learn hoe/trick dynamic. Just trying have fun...then it happens, as long as its under terms im okay with.

You just contradicted yourself without even realizing it. You want to have fun with a stripper, (whatever the f*ck that's suppose to mean,) just as long as it'sunder terms, "you're okay with." Exactly what terms are you okay with? The reason why I ask is because if you want to f*ck one of these broads for free, you have do the following. Go to :48-2:08

You can't have any kind of fun with stripper unless she knows that you're not a trick. Now if you want to trick off money within the confines and safety of the club, then go right away. However, if you want to pull one of these b*tches up out of the club, then you need you not only follow the rules of the game, but respect the game, and not respecting the game has serious consequences because one of these scandalous ass b*tches will at a minimum use you as a personal ATM machine or at most set you up to be robbed. So have "fun," with these hoes if you want to.

 

[AAAgent]

Honestly, I could care less. I'm tired of coming on these boards with people talking about hypothetically theories they've learned from reading xyz. If you bagged a stripper, great. If not, don't give me advice. My life goal isn't to bag a stripper and it isn't to come on here and respond to everyones posts that thinks they know what is best.