a woman should cook for her man

a good woman cooks for her man

  • Agree

    Votes: 62 84.9%
  • Disagree

    Votes: 11 15.1%

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
the polls have been manipulated by women from a fem site. You don't even have to be logged in to vote on a poll. Furthermore, if you want to cast many votes all you have to do is delete your cookies, open a new browser, and not log in.
how do you know Kev?
Anyways, this is yet another example of the fact that things have gone too far, as has this thread.
Get a phucking clue ladies: Cooking for a man does not equate to slavery. Period. If your bloke won't cook for you at all(and thats what EQUALITY is girls 50/50), then thats another story.
I am so tired of all this $hit about equality, when it's actually about getting on your high horses and getting your own back for all the supposed $hit that men have put us through over the years. It's a croc. It's shameful. Get over yourselves. End rant.
 

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00Kevin...

Why do you think you have to act more like a man in order to be equal? Why do you think men have to act more like women to be equal?
I'm not saying that at all Kevin, I'm saying we can act how we want to. Not how people say men and woman "should" act. Besides, when you look across cultures, the gender roles, and expectations put on men and women vary enormously.

You're so worried about me emasculating you, that you're missing what I'm trying to say. I believe that men and women, regardless of their genders should be free to pursue what ever relationship dynamics they want, provided the other party is happy with the set-up.

yes, much like a snake, after all, "frailty thy name is woman!"
I just don't understand how so many men can have such bitter emotions towards women, yet pursue them completely. Sometimes, it seems as though the very qualities you look for in women are the ones that are used to claim we create discord and disquiet. You are obviously straight, and enjoy women, or you wouldn't be on this site. Why then, do you have so much animosity for females, yet continue trying to find your 'soulmate'?

(On a side note, that Shakespearian quote, spoken by Hamlet in a moment of passion proves his undeniable love for Orphelia. He was stating that his thirst for revenge and inescapable Hamartia was threatened by his desire to love her. It wasn't a female that brought down Hamlet. It was her love for him that he cursed, because he had to turn away from it to assuage his thirst for revenge.)

This is my major problem with feminism. Not only does it attempt to change the role of women. It also attempts to change the role of men.
You must have been supplied with the incorrect def. then. Feminism is about pursuing equality with men. It's about respecting each other, and seeing beyond gender.

What I am saying is that as a man I can tell you that we are not good at raising children. It isn’t in our nature.
I'm afraid I'm disagreeing with you on this one, entirely. I was raised by my father. He is an amazing man, and I have nothing but the deepest love and respect for him. Because of him, I have faith in humanity, and I can tell you right now, that his nature was to be a indefectible parent, and man who gave his daughter more than I can ever hope to repay.

(Also, there are many examples in nature of the male raising or helping raise the children. The Seahorse for one.:) )

There are many AFCs that would be great at raising children. Perhaps these are the type of men you are looking for.
I'm really not looking for any 'type' of man. I'm not 'looking' for a man at all right now. I don't catagorize or list off what I desire in a partner, or a friend. Like I mentioned before- I simply hang with people I connect with.

Well it's good that you didn't get emotional about what i said. I was expecting a very emotional response to some of the other comments I made. I'll give you an A+ on that one. Most women would of fliped out.
Ah yes, another assumption that one gender must be more emotional than the other. Sigh. Were you trying to bait me, just so you could say "I'm right"? Why can't you forget that I'm a girl, and have a discussion with another human being?

as for being... NDP... **** that must mean you live in canada. just don't say you live in toronto or we will have to have it out in person. i'll have to bring my club!
More inferrences to violence. Even made in jest it's still troubling. And I do live in Canada. But not in Ontario. I'm a Prairie Gal. Giddyup.
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Re: 00Kevin...

Originally posted by HeyPretty
. You're so worried about me emasculating you, that you're missing what I'm trying to say. I believe that men and women, regardless of their genders should be free to pursue what ever relationship dynamics they want, provided the other party is happy with the set-up.
I understand what you said. What i don't understand is why you women say you want one thing and go for another? If this is the case why don't you go for the nice guy? is that what you want an AFC? Go on tell all the guys on this board that you have nothing but respect for the AFCs that feminism has created. Tell them that you want them.

Originally posted by HeyPretty
.I just don't understand how so many men can have such bitter emotions towards women, yet pursue them completely. Sometimes, it seems as though the very qualities you look for in women are the ones that are used to claim we create discord and disquiet. You are obviously straight, and enjoy women, or you wouldn't be on this site. Why then, do you have so much animosity for females, yet continue trying to find your 'soulmate'?
There are some women on this site that i think are great. The guys on this site are just sick of "nexting” girl after girl. The fish in the sea have been poisoned with bitterness, uncertanty, and confusion. All of which has been created in women and men by feminists such as yourself.

I don't have animosity towards females if you read my other posts in this thread you will see that. I think that women should be treated with respect etc... I just don't like the crap that feminists are up to. Their ways are manipulative and they are using the media to as an agent for social change.


Originally posted by HeyPretty
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You must have been supplied with the incorrect def. then. Feminism is about pursuing equality with men. It's about respecting each other, and seeing beyond gender.
Yes, that is the nice package that feminism is wraped in. My complaint is with the results of feminism and the damage that it has caused. I really don't care how it is defined.

Originally posted by HeyPretty
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I'm afraid I'm disagreeing with you on this one, entirely. I was raised by my father. He is an amazing man, and I have nothing but the deepest love and respect for him. Because of him, I have faith in humanity, and I can tell you right now, that his nature was to be a indefectible parent, and man who gave his daughter more than I can ever hope to repay.
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Why don't you ask him how hard it was? I never said that a man can't raise a child. What i said was that the job is easier for a woman because biology is on her side. Taking care of children is a multi-tasking operation and thats why women are good at it. Men are able to focus and therefore are better at being a provider and a protector. The problem is that you have been told that this is wrong and that raising childern is on a lower level then providing for a family. If anything it should be on a higher level. So don't follow the herd think for yourself on this. what i don't understand is why women are so unhappy with it.

Originally posted by HeyPretty
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(Also, there are many examples in nature of the male raising or helping raise the children. The Seahorse for one.:) ).
lol. that isn't even an argument. Where did you get that fact out of? For every creature you can come up with I can name 100's that gender roles are the other way around. It cracks me up every time i hear about women who study animals to justify their arguments. What is even worse is that you just stated previously that humans are not like animals anymore.
Women who think this way are dreaming about being something they are not. They are looking for external sorces to make them feel good because they can't accept what they are. I should let you in a secret there is nothing wrong with being a woman and accepting the natural gifts you have. A woman that can do this deserves respect.


Originally posted by HeyPretty
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Ah yes, another assumption that one gender must be more emotional than the other. Sigh. Were you trying to bait me, just so you could say "I'm right"? Why can't you forget that I'm a girl, and have a discussion with another human being?
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I'm not going to forget that you are girl. Why do you want me to forget that you are a girl anyway?

No i wasn't trying to bait you. I just wanted to understand how you thought and that required a few jabs. (can't say i'm not impressed though).


Originally posted by HeyPretty
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More inferrences to violence. Even made in jest it's still troubling. And I do live in Canada. But not in Ontario. I'm a Prairie Gal. Giddyup.
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umm.. ok i'll accept that position cause it's fun. :p
 

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I understand what you said. What i don't understand is why you women say you want one thing and go for another? If this is the case why don't you go for the nice guy? is that what you want an AFC? Go on tell all the guys on this board that you have nothing but respect for the AFCs that feminism has created. Tell them that you want them.
My goodness, don't get so upset. I feel like a witch at the stake here. I must confess, I don't even know what "afc" means, so forgive my ignorance. I have nothing but respect for people who respect me. Why are you demanding that I admit to wanting many men? I'm not on these boards to pick men up; I'm here to talk with anyone who wants to, in an intelligent and calm manner, and hopefully, learn more about the male perspective so I can improve my communication skills.

There are some women on this site that i think are great. The guys on this site are just sick of "nexting” girl after girl. The fish in the sea have been poisoned with bitterness, uncertanty, and confusion. All of which has been created in women and men by feminists such as yourself.

I don't have animosity towards females if you read my other posts in this thread you will see that. I think that women should be treated with respect etc... I just don't like the crap that feminists are up to. Their ways are manipulative and they are using the media to as an agent for social change.
Again, I don't understand how teaching women that they are equal members of society, and capable of doing anything in this world that anyone else is, corrupt's women's beliefs towards men. Most often I find, personal experience with nasty people will lead someone to avoid nasty people. Male or female.

As for 'nexting' girls, perhaps these women just weren't right for the men? There's very few people in this world that one person is compatiable with in a long-term way. If it was any different, I'm sure therapists, romance novels, and Valentine's Day would be a thing of the past.

Why don't you ask him how hard it was? I never said that a man can't raise a child. What i said was that the job is easier for a woman because biology is on her side. Taking care of children is a multi-tasking operation and thats why women are good at it. Men are able to focus and therefore are better at being a provider and a protector. The problem is that you have been told that this is wrong and that raising childern is on a lower level then providing for a family. If anything it should be on a higher level. So don't follow the herd think for yourself on this. what i don't understand is why women are so unhappy with it.
I never said that my father didn't work his butt off. As for multi-tasking, well- my father was also a Junior-High School Industrial Arts, Math, Social Studies, and English teacher as well. If supervising 35 fourteen year olds doesn't count as multitasking, I'm not sure what does.

And I haven't been told that raising a family is lower- I can't begin to imagine the work that the house-parent has to do on a daily basis- thankfully, my mother was also a Professional Nanny for 10 years before she met my father. So I have her lifetime of experience to elighten me that raising children is an involved rewarding, and hugely commited process.

I'm not unhappy with women raising children. I'm not unhappy with men raising children. I just think, each parent should do their share- whatever the couple decides upon. If that's tradional- go for it. If it's more modern, go for that too.

lol. that isn't even an argument. Where did you get that fact out of? For every creature you can come up with I can name 100's that gender roles are the other way around. It cracks me up every time i hear about women who study animals to justify their arguments. What is even worse is that you just stated previously that humans are not like animals anymore.
Women who think this way are dreaming about being something they are not. They are looking for external sorces to make them feel good because they can't accept what they are. I should let you in a secret there is nothing wrong with being a woman and accepting the natural gifts you have. A woman that can do this deserves respect.

Here's some information on Male-Parents in the Wild :)

Animal Super-Dads
In nature, the single-parent family is the overwhelming rule -- and that parent is almost always female. From building a nest and gathering food to giving birth and protecting their young, females do it all. Male involvement rarely extends beyond the moment of conception.

There are, however, a few notable exceptions to this rule. In 90% of bird species, the male provides some form of parental care. In fishes, males occasionally take on a custodial role at the nest site. And for animals living in harsh environments, the efforts of two parents are often required for the young to survive.
If you want more info. on the male parents in nature- here's the link! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/seahorse/superdads.html

I've never said anything about not accepting my female 'gifts'. I said, I can still change the oil in my car, cook a strawberry cake, and play football with the gang- and be a woman.

I'm not going to forget that you are girl. Why do you want me to forget that you are a girl anyway?
Well, if you did stop treating me differently, perhaps all the accusations and hidden barbs would cease, and we could have a discussion; instead of me defending myself? :)

No i wasn't trying to bait you. I just wanted to understand how you thought and that required a few jabs. (can't say i'm not impressed though).
What's the difference between baiting and jabs? Both are intended to ellicit a response.

umm.. ok i'll accept that position cause it's fun. :p
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come across with any flirtation. It was simply a referrence to my home town. Sorry again.
 

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I STILL SAY >>

IF a woman wont try cooking for me..then she cant be my wife.....Women should know or atleast try to take care of a man like me...thats how it been forever.......



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I'm kinda old school about this one....hell I'm actually very old school here combined with new school. The other day I was on my Sac*** aol account and a friend IM'd me:

Co : how come you wont let me love you????
Co : you would be so happy
Sac : your love is too intense
Sac : wrong time in my life time....
Co : I can bring home the bacon bring it home in a pan
Sac r: fry it up and never neverlet me forget I'm a man
Sac r: I'd never have to work with you on my team
Co : and never let you forget your a man
Co : & i could paint fantastic things with your inspiration
Sac r: yes and make millions...of course I would spend it as fast as you make it...
Co : i havent picked up the paints in months
Sac r: then you need some inspiration
Co : I would let you. i would enjoy seeing you feel secure
Sac : you need your Daddy don't you
Co : I will be home alone all weekend
Co : yes Papi


To me a woman should find pleasure in seeing a man eat her food that she has prepared with her own hands...made from her energy...A woman should take care of and nurture her man:

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I would like to take you to see a movie some evening when you are
free.......
A back rub...head rub....foot rub...feet rub.......hand rub.........
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"and how am I self centered?? I clean your house and I do ever get a
thank you....."
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yeah and a woman should clean a man's home...

and every little desire that he wants should be met:

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I really try to contain myself sometimes when it comes to you but I fail miserably. I don't mind it. I never was good at hiding my feelings or trying to deny them. Thoughts of you fill my head constantly. Just busting at the seams with nothing but good, loving, warm thoughts. And if someone mentions your name just to see how we are doing the smile across my face is usually answer enough for them to know just how happy you make me. I think it is one of those permanent smiles because I don't believe I have stopped smiling since we first met. It is so magical for me. I want you to know that every part of me wants to make sure your every desire is met. Nothing makes me feel like I have done my job until I know you are satisfied in every possible way.

<<<KISS>>>

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Live by your examples brothers...make your life a paradise.

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Originally posted by HeyPretty
My goodness, don't get so upset. I feel like a witch at the stake here. I must confess, I don't even know what "afc" means, so forgive my ignorance. I have nothing but respect for people who respect me. Why are you demanding that I admit to wanting many men? I'm not on these boards to pick men up; I'm here to talk with anyone who wants to, in an intelligent and calm manner, and hopefully, learn more about the male perspective so I can improve my communication skills.
ok i think you may have taken this out of context. I was not demanding that you admit to wanting many men. That wouldn't be very respectful. I would encourage you to read the boards a little more and read the DJ bible a bit. The main argument it makes is that nice guys finish last. It is my view that the cause of this has to with the feminization of PC. Men don't know what they are anymore, and they become AFCs


Again, I don't understand how teaching women that they are equal members of society, and capable of doing anything in this world that anyone else is, corrupt's women's beliefs towards men. Most often I find, personal experience with nasty people will lead someone to avoid nasty people. Male or female.
even though i just got back from having a few drinks, i think i agree with this.


I'm not unhappy with women raising children. I'm not unhappy with men raising children. I just think, each parent should do their share- whatever the couple decides upon. If that's tradional- go for it. If it's more modern, go for that too.
yes that's ok too


Well, if you did stop treating me differently, perhaps all the accusations and hidden barbs would cease, and we could have a discussion; instead of me defending myself? :)
i'll drink to that. I just thought it was going to be more of a fight :)
 

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Sorry Kev, I used all my venom up on the dance floor tonight.

;) :cool:

I'm just one tired little gal.

*yawn* :eek:


Hmm. No sparks. I'm a little relieved, and a little scared.
 

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Originally posted by HeyPretty
Sorry Kev, I used all my venom up on the dance floor tonight.

;) :cool:

I'm just one tired little gal.

*yawn* :eek:


Hmm. No sparks. I'm a little relieved, and a little scared.
I might be totaly drunk again tonight, but i don't understand how you can be scared? why are you scared?

The good thing is that this thread is dead. :)

This weekend has unexpectedly been fun :) 6 smirnoffs and some zambooka shots have done me in tonight. You know you are drunk when all your friends laugh at inframercials.
 

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Well- could be worse Kevin. Infomercials are always good times though- I'm a fan of Popeil's Hair in a Can.

I work for a Pub Tour Company on the weekends, and last night, I had to break up 2 fights, by throwing myself between the guys.

Oh, and one of the mates on the tour asked me if I had my boobs done. I just don't get that. (One, because I'm not (I think) overly chesty, and Two - I was wearing a loose black shirt.)
 
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