A question for Latinoman

[Latinoman]

Welcome back.

 

[Oblivious]

No it isn't his duty to take care of his kids Obnoxious, and it isn't his duty to leave a house for his wife either. He is an astronaut of the human spirit and she was just some sort of booster rocket which has now been made redundant as he is propelled towards enlightenment. He, bearing the precious cargo of manhood, should be applauded.

Kids can be easily acquired for virtually nothing in Third World countries, ask Madonna. Why is it that women are unable to think of human life in terms other than those of money. Because they are spiritually rotten, that's why.

As a parent that is his duty. Individuals who do not take care of their children are dead beat parents. They both share duties. But seeing as though he decided to walk out of the family unit he does still have obligations as a parent. No he is not obligated to take care of his ex-wife, but seeing as though she is the one that lives under the same roof as the kids she reaps the benefits of the house as well--the kids have to live somewhere if they aren't living with him on a continual basis. Duh!

 

[Latinoman]

As a parent that is his duty. Individuals who do not take care of their children are dead beat parents. They both share duties. But seeing as though he decided to walk out of the family unit he does still have obligations as a parent. No he is not obligated to take care of his ex-wife, but seeing as though she is the one that lives under the same roof as the kids she reaps the benefits of the house as well--the kids have to live somewhere if they aren't living with him on a continual basis. Duh!

Actually...my kids stay with me 50% of the time. We have equal share of custody. In a nutshell...they have TWO houses.

 

[Oblivious]

What is so "curious" about a thread titled: "A Question For Latinoman"?



Listen...I satisfy my women. Sexually, emotionally, intellectually, mentally...I know how to do that. I also know how to drive them crazy as I'm a very difficult man too (wink). Some comes naturally, but most due to experience and "experimentation" as I'm a student of behaviors. My "ex" still wants me back. Any woman that I'm involved with (intimate)...she wants me back. That's why I know that the Friend With Benefits thing will NEVER work with me. I just treat them very well...and then...become distant...then treat them well...etc. It is who I am.

Now...do I get feelings? Of course I do! I love women or at least something about them.



I take care of my kids because I want to be a positive influence to them. I’m not doing that out of duty or obligation. I’m doing it out of desire. In a nutshell, no one is making me do it (and trust me, MOST men and some women are ordered by court to do certain things as it relates to their kids).

I gave her the house (under certain conditions) not because of duty or obligation. I did it because I felt it was fair and right. For the same token, I’m not giving her other things (such as alimony), because I felt it was unfair to me.

No judge and no man are going to tell me what to do or give to my children and ex-wife or what to do with my money or my time. It is MY decision and it is how I prefer to do things. At the end, I’m the one looking myself in the mirror. So, there are no lawyers and no judges and no mediators. I’m simply doing what I view is fair and quite honestly…I’m happy. And comes down to that: Happiness.




I'm not "searching" for an ideal. Instead, I'm "getting" what I want. I want Peace and I want Happiness.

Women? Well, I love women...I truly do. I love how I make them feel (at least the ones in my life). I truly do. It is addictive. And in a way, it is selfish as wanting to make them feel like no man has before is what satisfy ME. But the thing is...I can have that when I want. So, that's not my goal.

Peace and happiness are my goals...and they are closely tied to others such as my career, health, and fitness.

Well I am sure any woman you get intimate with get attached. Thats the nature of sex--at least for women. Its a bonding experience. Most of us do get emotionally tied if we choose to have sex with a man. So yeah you might not want to get all willy nilly and sex up every chick you meet. That would spell trouble as well as just an unsafe practice all around. But anyway, sex isn't something to toy with especially if you want to deem yourself as an upright individual who has a heart. Sex is an emotional thing period.

And "getting what you want"--all the time, is an ideal that is fantasy. I mean yeah its possible, but is selfishness at its best. Peace and happiness is a state of mind--its not something that you can get from anyone else but you. It seems to be that you are chasing after things to give you that. If you were in a empty white room--hmmm...would you be at peace or happy still? Thats the peace and happiness one should be chasing. Yeah I can understand that if elements in your environment keep you from that inner state of being then it needs to be reevaluated or removed. I still don't see how your ex-wife was decreasing your happiness. She was a good wife, mother, did almost everything right--dang it thats as close as perfect alot of us will ever get to. Not saying that you should settle if you were looking for something more. But when will that search ever end? At some point and some place that peace and happiness will have to come from within regardless of any outside force.

 

[Oblivious]

Great Latinoman...thats called being a good father. And yeah that is rare indeed. Hmmm do you have any daughters? If you do I am curious what you will teach them in regards to their relationships with men? Mind you, a lot of daughters go for men who are like their fathers.

 

[Latinoman]

So yeah you might not want to get all willy nilly and sex up every chick you meet.

I'm very selective. After all...I view myself as the prize.

And "getting what you want"--all the time, is an ideal that is fantasy. I mean yeah its possible, but is selfishness at its best.

So...you are suggesting we live the life of a comformist?

Peace and happiness is a state of mind--its not something that you can get from anyone else but you. It seems to be that you are chasing after things to give you that.

Nobody can bring me happiness and peace. ONLY I can do that. All what others can do is either "enhance" or "diminish" that happiness/peace. Comes down to that.

I still don't see how your ex-wife was decreasing your happiness.

How can you? It was MY happiness.

She was a good wife, mother, did almost everything right--dang it thats as close as perfect alot of us will ever get to. Not saying that you should settle if you were looking for something more. But when will that search ever end?

I'm NOT searching for any woman. That's the point I'm trying to make. I choose the woman that enhances my happiness/peace. Let her go if she does the opposite (if she is worthy, then I might feel inclined to try and influence her or lead her to change). Simple as that.

 

[Latinoman]

Great Latinoman...thats called being a good father. And yeah that is rare indeed. Hmmm do you have any daughters? If you do I am curious what you will teach them in regards to their relationships with men? Mind you, a lot of daughters go for men who are like their fathers.

I have to go...but I will respond to this tomorrow. I do have a daughter...and I'm well aware that as a father I would certaintly define how she would view the men of her life.

 

[Oblivious]

I'm very selective. After all...I view myself as the prize.

Great to be selective. Shouldn't we all? Oh and nothing is wrong with viewing yourself as a prize. So don't complain about "gold diggers." I am sure they view themselves as a prize that should be taken care of and bought nice things for. To each his own. No, nothing wrong with that.

So...you are suggesting we live the life of a comformist?

Not saying to be a conformist. But selfishness is what it is. And it will get you what you want...but always at a price of another. I am just saying that its not ALWAYS the way to go. In a perfect world we would ALL get what we wanted. But we don't live in a perfect world.

Nobody can bring me happiness and peace. ONLY I can do that. All what others can do is either "enhance" or "diminish" that happiness/peace. Comes down to that.

I get that. I don't even think that anyone enhances your happiness for that matter. They can share in it and you can share in theirs. In addition, people can only diminish your joy if you allow it. I know that it is true that you attract what you give off. If you are always Debbie Downer, you attract negativity in your life. If you are the opposite and Suzy Sunshine you would attract people who are likewise and even downers cause they want to share in a bit of that sunshine. Some may even try to take your joy--crab in a barrel syndrome--but only if you allow it.

I'm NOT searching for any woman. That's the point I'm trying to make. I choose the woman that enhances my happiness/peace. Let her go if she does the opposite (if she is worthy, then I might feel inclined to try and influence her or lead her to change). Simple as that.

I didn't say you were searching for a woman. I was saying that it seems that you are searching for happiness/peace. And that shouldn't be found in any woman, material item or what have you, but rather within yourself. We should all definitely keep positive people, things in our lives..but you guys seem to be in such quick rushes to dissolve anything that won't allow you to have your complete way--make you happy, yada yada yada. Which, to me, is a bit of bull. What are you doing to contribute to the problem, or better yet solve the problem-rather than just walking away?

 

[grinder]

Oblivious:

Umm, yawn, its gettin dark now and I'm sittn in a park connected wirelessly, listening to some cool jazz.

But, yawn, again, sorry, but do you have children? No disrespect to others, but, unless you have children, then you are THE child. Babies, one and all.

Otherwise: Please post in the High School forum.

 

[Oblivious]

LOL...ummm sorry you are so tired. Leave the park and go to bed. And no I don't have children. But I know when I do that there will be responsibilities and duties as a parent that I am obligated. Things that I am suppose to do, want to do and don't want to do. I'll get no hero cookie for doing what I am suppose to do as a parent.

And because one does not have kids, does not make them ill equipped to comment. And one having kids does not mean he/she is mature. Some of the most immature people in the world have kids.

So go to bed...

 

[ElChoclo]

Obnoxious, not having kids makes one very ill equipped to comment. In some cultures children are cared for communally and are not the specific responsibility of just one man, or one woman for that matter. Children in early industrialised societies used to get jobs when they were 13. In Africa, they use kids as soldiers, so I guess their sergeant is looking after them.

You shouldn't be trying to shove some "theory" about parental obligations down Latinoman's throat. Did you get this theory from Suzy Sunshine or maybe your television.

And yes, we would live in a perfect world, if we only had more men like Latinoman, the top 2%, a living prize, someone who is not a conformist to cretinous theories.

 

[edger]

I just treat them very well...and then...become distant...then treat them well...etc. It is who I am.

Just curious, in what way do you treat them well? Do you start treating them "well" first time you meet them?

 

[Latinoman]

Just curious, in what way do you treat them well? Do you start treating them "well" first time you meet them?

I simply treat them different.

I cannot explain it as it comes natural to me.

 

[Oblivious]

Obnoxious, not having kids makes one very ill equipped to comment. In some cultures children are cared for communally and are not the specific responsibility of just one man, or one woman for that matter. Children in early industrialised societies used to get jobs when they were 13. In Africa, they use kids as soldiers, so I guess their sergeant is looking after them.

You shouldn't be trying to shove some "theory" about parental obligations down Latinoman's throat. Did you get this theory from Suzy Sunshine or maybe your television.

And yes, we would live in a perfect world, if we only had more men like Latinoman, the top 2%, a living prize, someone who is not a conformist to cretinous theories.

We aren't talking about some cultures---if we were in that culture then we would proceed accordingly. But since we aren't then we take care of our kids, accept the responsibility and move on. If you aren't willing to stand up to the challenge, then don't have kids.

Get off Latinoman's jock. He's doing him, whats good for him isn't neccessarily good for someone else. And as far as being a conformist, we are all a bit conforming in most respects. Hmmm....I guess if we wanted to be total conformist in the society we live in today we would throw our tvs away, forget about driving, going to work, going to the gym to work out, oh and following rules set by SoSuave....Puhleeze.

 

[Latinoman]

Get off Latinoman's jock.

I didn't get the impression he was doing that.

Just because a person disagrees with your view and agrees with mine...does not mean that that person is on my jock.

 

[Oblivious]

I am sorry....if one can't put any female on any pedestal why should any man be put on one? You, top 2%, "living prize"? I don't know about all that. Its cool that he agrees with you, but that takes it a bit far. You are a mortal man like anybody else. You aren't perfect. Hmm...maybe you have found what works best for you to better your life and thats awesome. Your methods to go about that are your own. And at 38 I would hope that one would get to that point or at least be well on his way. I think it more has to do with maturity than anything. You lived your life, seen what works, seen what doesn't work and put those things into practice accordingly. Its not rocket science and no, everyone doesn't always get it. But I am sure everyday isn't roses even when you get it??? But its cool that you have you a nice little following of disciples. Nothing is wrong with that. I am sure it helps stroke the ego. So be it....

 

[Latinoman]

I am sorry....if one can't put any female on any pedestal why should any man be put on one? You, top 2%, "living prize"? I don't know about all that. Its cool that he agrees with you, but that takes it a bit far. You are a mortal man like anybody else. You aren't perfect. Hmm...maybe you have found what works best for you to better your life and thats awesome. Your methods to go about that are your own. And at 38 I would hope that one would get to that point or at least be well on his way. I think it more has to do with maturity than anything. You lived your life, seen what works, seen what doesn't work and put those things into practice accordingly. Its not rocket science and no, everyone doesn't always get it. But I am sure everyday isn't roses even when you get it??? But its cool that you have you a nice little following of disciples. Nothing is wrong with that. I am sure it helps stroke the ego. So be it....

Ego?

If I wanted to stroke my Ego...I would simply post a picture of myself and then talk to you in such a fashion as to get your interest level high.

But that's not who I am and quite honestly, not what I want.

It has nothing to do with ego. I'm not rich. I'm not Brad Pitt either. I'm dark and tall and fit and have Persian looks (very dark hair and eyes)...and consequently look much more younger than my age....some women are not going to find a man that looks like me attractive as they won't know if I'm Arab or Latino or European. But others do. And the ones that do and manage to get some level of involvement with me tend to go overboard. And IF that does nothing for my "ego", you can rest assure that a message board is going to have less effect.

Listen...young lady... :yes:


It's not "rocket science"...as I in my 20s was a pretty phucked up individual. Heck, was good with women, etc....but in general? Well, let's say I had no benefit of a place like "SoSuave.net", etc. But I had other things going for me and was LUCKY that certain circunstances in my life helped me adapted into the man I am today. I'm NOT perfect...but I'm unique and more importantly, I'm HAPPY.

Do I care if others think I'm the prize? I don't. As it is an internalized thing. Nothing to do with arrogance and more to do with having the self knowledge that you can move on as you understand (as a man) that you are in a unique position.

It is not about knowing what works and what doesn't work. But more about understanding myself first and then my environment. And more importantly, managing to have control over my life. It is like Rollo said...Power is based on how much control you have over your own life and your own path.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Latinoman & Oblivious...




Why don't you two just "FUKK" and get it over with?

Hah! Just kidding...or AM I????


LOL


But seriously, I'm enjoying this changing AND exchanging of ideas that is going on in this thread---as long as the personal attacks are kept to a minimum, I find it educational. There's nothing like a spirited debate and a little verbal volleying to keep things interesting...


Carry on.

 

[Oblivious]

LOL! Not so sure if posting a picture and getting any interest level high would do it for me. LOL! And all that you said is understandable. But I was just making it a point to say that ole' dude went a little overboard sharing your views with you---saying you were the top 2% and all that jazz. Its cool to agree with you but it is not that serious.

And yes I have found this dialogue with all of you very educational at best. I know I will not totally agree with the male thought process as I am female--and those are totally different things and I don't think one is better than the other, its just how we are wired. I get on this site from time to time just to get a glimpse of the inner thoughts that men have. Some I can understand, some I won't and never will. And hopefully when the opportunity arises I'll have a better grasp on dealing with the opposite sex.

And Latinoman you never continued with the discussion of what you will teach your daughter in regards to relationships with men.

 

[Latinoman]

LOL! Not so sure if posting a picture and getting any interest level high would do it for me. LOL!

I know it would...At least this much {putting my pointing finger and thumb 1/2-inch appart from each other}.

LOL.

And Latinoman you never continued with the discussion of what you will teach your daughter in regards to relationships with men.

And do you know what? You are correct (I cannot believe I forgot that)...but I will have to wait another day as I have to leave soon again and don't want to rush on that post.