Originally posted by Page
shyt.... I go away for 3 months and when I come back my little thread has turned into this 7-page giant...
No longer
your little thread.
Pook: I do know speed seduction. I know patterns, weasel phrases, and the like, however, I rarely use it. i instead prefer conventional methods.
ha!
There is a prize to the person who correctly answers this question,
Why is this funny?
Many people here believe that the Dj system is only good for getting women. However, it is not the case.
I'm still waiting for someone to describe to me what exactly constitutes the Dj system?
This used to be a site about getting chicks. Sort of like "The Rules" for men. Then everyone who (presumably) wasn't getting laid began their there's-more-to-life than women posts.
And then we got a few guys on board who claimed they've never had any trouble getting laid but were always looking for ways to improve their standards, or develop a cult-following among lonely college students.
DIESEL had
this to say to me in February:
This site isn't about getting laid, people just think it is because a lot of the newbies come to this site because of problems they are having with the ladies, hence the preponderance of female-related threads.
This site is really about developing power and embracing the power of masculinity.
Once you do that, everything else (especially women) falls into place.
"Hence the preponderance of female-related threads."
???
Go to yahoo search engine and run a search for "sosuave."
This is what pops up...
1. The Don Juan Center - secrets of meeting, dating, attracting women.
Hence the preponderance of female-related threads!
Originally posted by Page
I have taken it far beyond women. To me, it's more about reaching my own potential and achieving my own goals first and foremost. The Dj system has given me the means to do that.
How?
If anything, I value the DJ system for the personal power it gives me to move through life and take control of my destiny.
I just consider the women I get by using it to be sort of a bonus.
Women as sort of a bonus? Interesting concept. Never really looked at a woman as a bonus. Maybe I looked at a woman and got a boner - nope, that's not the same.
That comment just struck me as being particularly cold and detached, which is what real life friends thought about my attitude towards women when I first discovered these materials. My success increased sharply... I was hooking up with a few girls regularly, up from being lonely and oblivious months before... but I wasn't involved in any quality relationships. And I felt fake.
Maybe my interest levels, and three second rule violations, and Alex's door pattern weren't teaching me a damned thing about the reality of how men and women relate. Maybe I learned more last year when I had a girlfriend and found myself in a position where I had to kiss control goodbye in order to feel what I wanted. I found myself having to weigh our interests against my interests and her interests. Incredible, exciting, enlightening, emotional, and sexual... all at the same time. Interesting.
Originally posted by De La Soul
Are you familiar with juggler style?
Juggler has a bit of my attention. He doesn't advocate a neglect-women-and-they'll-come-to-you philosophy nor does he advocate Jedi mind tricks or a thirteen-step approach strategy. He does what works for him and appreciates how the best, most effective material comes from within. Throw out the gimmicks and learn how to be more of an extroverted and fascinating version of yourself. To add to the momentum, Juggler loves women and values relationships - you can tell that just from reading his letters. He's a breath of fresh air in light of hundreds of misogynists that suffocate these forums. Juggler has also used the v-word (vulnerability) which almost NEVER comes up in these forums but comes up in almost every single substantial relationship, regardless of what we're told.
So I value any sort of opportunity I have to learn more about Juggler and his ideas. Not sure if they're applicable to my situation or your situation, but it would be great to delve into them in light of these conversations. I'm not suggesting we nominate Juggler "Pook of the millennium" or Discussion forum Czar, but I think he's more realistic (emphasis on the "real" part) than other names around these parts.
I'm done for now - glad to see this old discussion bumped.
DWK