Mr Wright
Master Don Juan
This is topic I've been thinking about recently and discussed it a little with Rex. I think this forum tends to side towards the numbers game aspect and doesn't push the need for having a good skill set enough. In other words, if she's low interest, there's not a lot you can do about it so you're better off ditching her and finding another girl. But this also effects the early stages of interactions when shes not showing interest off the bat. How far do you go to try and see if her interest levels can be raised? It's hard so much guys just move on and approach another chick, searching for early interest signals. This is abundance mentality and it's very important have this mindset. However, I do feel it's got this unquestionable aura about it, much like the idea of positivity. You can't really question it. Sometimes I think that positivity can be dangerous and it's a very good tool to use in an argument because it's hard to rally against without looking like the guy who is trying to bring everyone down. Just because it's positive, it doesn't mean it's right. This is the same with having a strict abundance mentality. An obvious problem with the numbers game aspect is that you will have to lower your standards a little and take what's given to you. A girl showing little to no interest is no good to you, so you have to leave. You will get yes girls but they will be few and far between compared to the maybe and no girls. But the thing which really puts me off this is that you're not really choosing the girls you want, you know when you walk down the street or whatever and there's that one chick who catches your eye. You want her. Not her less good looking friend or the next cute girl who comes across your path. You want that her, it's primal, you want to take it. But you can't pedestalize girls right? This is where the problem with having the numbers game mentality comes in, like positivity, it's good to an extent. But it should be a tool or a function rather than a mantra.
As men we all want regular sex, whether that comes in the form of a long term relationship or a 2 hour fling. Pretty much every straight male will fall under that spectrum and running parallel to that spectrum is another one, which alludes to the idea of quantity and quality. If one was beneath the other, the general consensus of the community and society is that long term relationships imply quality and short term flings air towards quantity. Just reading people's posts on the first few pages on here shows you that this is a myth. This is where I think the community can turn that on it's head, you can get those shorter term flings with quality girls if you work on your skill set.
So I see the question as do you take a large chunk of time out now to get really good at this to the point where you can be selective? Where you only approach 10 girls a week all of which who are your version of top tier girls, knowing that you can turn 2-4 of them into solid leads. Looking 5 years down the road do you still want to be dating the same type of girls you are today? I know now at 21 that I don't really have the money to go out 3-4 times a week to meet women. However, I have to now to make sure that when I'm older and I finally get my own apartment, things will become a lot easier. I think this is also another reason why some guys find it hard to leave shïtty relationships and situations, it's not just a lack of abundance mentality, they may be able to find another girl but does she have the "quality" that he desires?
So all roads points to all this is being a linear journey and to really get the most out of all of this, you can't stop half way through. At first you need the abundance mentality, where you approach many women and you don't have to take crap from girls. But eventually you want to getting the girls you truly desire with regular success. I remember the moment when I was talking to a girl I fancied at university, I'd be introduced to her many times and it was like she never remembered me, she looked like a definition of low interest. But I got talking to her, got over her frosty exterior and all that we ended up really getting on and ended up dating. I remember lying in bed one day thinking "shït this stuff really works, I want this all the time". I want to pick girls out of a crowd and for the most part I'm getting there and it's so fulfilling. Most guys are happy enough getting cute enough girls so they don't move onto the point where they are regularly getting the girls their dïck really desires. I mean who has actually banged the hottest girl they know? or lets give most guys a fighting chance and make it the top 3 girls they know. Chances are still slim. Some of us really have to stop lying to ourselves and acting like we're even half way to our ideal lifestyles.
So the next question is how do you raise the interest in girls who initially show little to no interest?
As men we all want regular sex, whether that comes in the form of a long term relationship or a 2 hour fling. Pretty much every straight male will fall under that spectrum and running parallel to that spectrum is another one, which alludes to the idea of quantity and quality. If one was beneath the other, the general consensus of the community and society is that long term relationships imply quality and short term flings air towards quantity. Just reading people's posts on the first few pages on here shows you that this is a myth. This is where I think the community can turn that on it's head, you can get those shorter term flings with quality girls if you work on your skill set.
So I see the question as do you take a large chunk of time out now to get really good at this to the point where you can be selective? Where you only approach 10 girls a week all of which who are your version of top tier girls, knowing that you can turn 2-4 of them into solid leads. Looking 5 years down the road do you still want to be dating the same type of girls you are today? I know now at 21 that I don't really have the money to go out 3-4 times a week to meet women. However, I have to now to make sure that when I'm older and I finally get my own apartment, things will become a lot easier. I think this is also another reason why some guys find it hard to leave shïtty relationships and situations, it's not just a lack of abundance mentality, they may be able to find another girl but does she have the "quality" that he desires?
So all roads points to all this is being a linear journey and to really get the most out of all of this, you can't stop half way through. At first you need the abundance mentality, where you approach many women and you don't have to take crap from girls. But eventually you want to getting the girls you truly desire with regular success. I remember the moment when I was talking to a girl I fancied at university, I'd be introduced to her many times and it was like she never remembered me, she looked like a definition of low interest. But I got talking to her, got over her frosty exterior and all that we ended up really getting on and ended up dating. I remember lying in bed one day thinking "shït this stuff really works, I want this all the time". I want to pick girls out of a crowd and for the most part I'm getting there and it's so fulfilling. Most guys are happy enough getting cute enough girls so they don't move onto the point where they are regularly getting the girls their dïck really desires. I mean who has actually banged the hottest girl they know? or lets give most guys a fighting chance and make it the top 3 girls they know. Chances are still slim. Some of us really have to stop lying to ourselves and acting like we're even half way to our ideal lifestyles.
So the next question is how do you raise the interest in girls who initially show little to no interest?
