A non traditional way to handle women

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Different dating coaches have different philosophies on how to handle women when they "reach back out". I have had a few recently reach back out which brought me to trying something that is unorthodox in how I handled it. Let me first say that if you listen to Corey Wayne, he will tell you to get right to the point and set up a date very quickly when a woman reaches back out. However, I dont exactly see how that makes HER chase YOU. And I totally believe in remaining as much of a mystery as one can....only giving a woman crumbs of information about yourself at a time.

So the gist of how I handled these 2 women in the past month that "reached back out". I did not go for a date/hangout right away. Actually I didnt go for it at ALL. I just played it cool and chatted. Now note that I lost a plate recently and I am down to 3 in my rotation, but I STILL have 3 and I am certainly not going without fun dates and sex. So I still have an abundance mindset. Let me show you:

Chick 1- LTR/was engaged 3 yrs ago. She has a habit of reaching out occasionally, about every 3-4 months with texts that are meaningless. My responses to her texting was extremely delayed and very short. I made no mention of "how have you been", "are you single".....NOTHING. This went on for 2 days. My average response time to her texts were about 3-4 hours. Her response time was less than 5 minutes. She ended up telling me that we should have a drink and catch up and I told her that I was super busy right now and declined.

Chick 2- She messaged me for a bit on FB. Invited her to join me for a drink and she said she was busy and didnt counter offer. I told her to reach out if she wanted to grab a drink later on. After about a week she reached back with small talk. Again, l kept everything off center as far as meeting up and my responses were delayed. Within a few messages she asked me if I could get that drink on Friday. I told her I might be busy Friday but I would let her know later. She then proceeded to send me a laundry list of free evenings for me to choose from. I still havent committed to anything and she has been blowing my phone up. I ended up telling her that although I had plans Friday evening, I would be home around 11pm if she wanted to COME OVER for that drink. She instantly agreed.

Here is the thing and this is how my mind works:

If a woman reaches back out......and we as men say "Great to hear from you. Lets get together on Thursday for a drink to catch up".....how is that mysterious? She knows right then and there that she still can get you out at her snapping her fingers.

However, if you make NO MENTION about it and just play it a though you have put her in YOUR friend zone, her hamster will start spinning into overdrive and SHE will make an offer very clear to hang out.

Now how you handle that offer is totally up to you, but I certainly like to slow play it. And I will slow play it to get what I want which is for her to come to MY PLACE for a drink and catch up that way.

In summary:

"Great to hear from you, lets catch up for a drink":

Shows you have no other options
You are done through an availability trap
She will know that you are "available"
You are no longer mysterious
She will know that she can have you anytime she sends your dumb @ss a text
End result is she will make up an excuse and you will never meet up as you have already validated her.

Keeping it as though you friend zoned her and making no mention of getting together:

You remain mysterious
She will wonder why you are not jumping for joy from her reaching out
She will wonder if you are single
She will wonder what she missed about you since you obviously have other options
End result is she will ultimately be asking YOU to meet up once she sees that your frame wont budge (assuming you keep the conversation going through SLOW, SHORT, DELAYED yet friendly responses.

What you do with that is up to you.

And remember- The game of dating is a marathon and not a sprint. If you have plenty of options you will realize what you do today will set you up down the road.

Dont expect to plant potatoes today and eat mashed potatoes tomorrow. Only the men without options and abundance need to have themselves validated today through insta dates.

Happy hunting
 
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I agree with the post. If she suggested getting together it'd be at my place or hers and I would let her know I expected sex to be on the table if there was mutual attraction. She needs to know she must pay for her sins with flesh. If she balks at that she's outta here. I don't mind leaving the door open for a come back but if I do she better be putting out.
 

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I agree with the post. If she suggested getting together it'd be at my place or hers and I would let her know I expected sex to be on the table if there was mutual attraction. She needs to know she must pay for her sins with flesh. If she balks at that she's outta here. I don't mind leaving the door open for a come back but if I do she better be putting out.
They key is, at that point, to invite her over to your place at a time that you really dont care if she shows up or not.

Friday I am meeting friends out at 7. We will have drinks, have fun and just chill while out. If I happen to stumble upon a better offer, I will flake on the chick that is coming over.

Once I get home, which is about the time she is supposed to come over, she either comes or she doesnt. If she does great, I am already feeling good and if she doesnt I am missing out on nothing because what I had planned is already fulfilled in hanging out with a group of my friends.

Its a win win. Its what benefits me.
 

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I agree with you Glass, if you take your time to answer their texts and act a bit uninterested they will start chasing more.

Corey's advice is just to weed out the ones looking for attention with no intention to meet up. If she really wants to meet she'll accept it, however by doing so you'll lose a lot of power.
 

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I've actually lost women playing this game of "letting her think you're not interested". They thought I wasn't interested and stopped reaching out. It works better for me to be clear and upfront. I've saved a lot of time by doing this.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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I've actually lost women playing this game of "letting her think you're not interested". They thought I wasn't interested and stopped reaching out. It works better for me to be clear and upfront. I've saved a lot of time by doing this.
I agree. I lost some too.
A lot guys here say to faint disinterest so you appear strong but it's just insecurities showing.
A lion does not care to fake being a lion.
And also does not mean to jump on the opportunity like a being a frog.
There's a way to show that you care but remain being strong.
 

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I agree. I lost some too.
A lot guys here say to faint disinterest so you appear strong but it's just insecurities showing.
A lion does not care to fake being a lion.
And also does not mean to jump on the opportunity like a being a frog.
There's a way to show that you care but remain being strong.
Negative ghost rider. Its called OPTIONS.

If you dont have any, you wont fake having any.
 

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I've actually lost women playing this game of "letting her think you're not interested". They thought I wasn't interested and stopped reaching out. It works better for me to be clear and upfront. I've saved a lot of time by doing this.
You have to know when to do it. In the scenarios glassguy is giving, these are women who disappeared for a while, and then are showing back up randomly and hitting him up, thus, they acted uninterested first. So if you lose them and they stop reaching out who cares, because they already weren't acting right. You're being generous to even respond to them at all.

All he's saying is don't instantly reward their bad behavior with a date as soon as they come back around
 

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You have to know when to do it. In the scenarios glassguy is giving, these are women who disappeared for a while, and then are showing back up randomly and hitting him up, thus, they acted uninterested first. So if you lose them and they stop reaching out who cares, because they already weren't acting right. You're being generous to even respond to them at all.

All he's saying is don't instantly reward their bad behavior with a date as soon as they come back around
That's Game 101. How is this a "non-traditional" strategy on gaming women?
I would think advice like this is kind of obvious at this point.
With how long this site been around, there should be a lot of wisdom here.
But it's obvious, the old wisdom has been lost over time.
The best posters that gave out the best advice were the early members.
I feel like some of you guy are still at level 1 here.
LOL
 

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That's Game 101. How is this a "non-traditional" strategy on gaming women?
I would think advice like this is kind of obvious at this point.
With how long this site been around, there should be a lot of wisdom here.
But it's obvious, the old wisdom has been lost over time.
The best posters that gave out the best advice were the early members.
I feel like some of you guy are still at level 1 here.
LOL
I get you, but there are still guys who are just now learning the fundamentals, I mean look at big goal, he's in his mid 30's and he's still trying to learn and figuring things out. (Sorry big goal, you're the first example that came to mind)
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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I get you, but there are still guys who are just now learning the fundamentals, I mean look at big goal, he's in his mid 30's and he's still trying to learn and figuring things out. (Sorry big goal, you're the first example that came to mind)
Then they need to search this site's history and find the ancient masters and learn from them.
They are not going to learn anything posting random threads here.
Ancient masters do not like having to keep writing the same advice over and over again.
At most they will give out their wisdom in a few good posts and then disappear.
 

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If she suggested getting together it'd be at my place or hers and I would let her know I expected sex to be on the table
And how would you do that?

Girl: “Let’s get together Friday.”
Guy: “My place 7 pm. I expect sex and nothing less.”

She needs to know she must pay for her sins with flesh. If she balks at that she's outta here.
Girl: “Let’s get together Friday.”
Guy: “My place 7 pm. I expect sex and nothing less.”
Girl: “Well can we maybe order dinner and watch a romantic movie and see where it leads us?”
Guy: “Get the f*ck out of my face!”

Is that what we call the red pill?
 

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And how would you do that?

Girl: “Let’s get together Friday.”
Guy: “My place 7 pm. I expect sex and nothing less.”



Girl: “Let’s get together Friday.”
Guy: “My place 7 pm. I expect sex and nothing less.”
Girl: “Well can we maybe order dinner and watch a romantic movie and see where it leads us?”
Guy: “Get the f*ck out of my face!”

Is that what we call the red pill?
Guy: I aint into this hot and cold on and off chit chat. Im attracted to you sexually and don't want to play around or waste my time of you're not interested in that. I am a guy after all.
Girl: I don't know, I don't sleep with guys on the first date.
Guy: If theres mutual attraction whats the big deal? if you're not attracted to me that's fine, just say so. Im a big boy I can handle it.
Girl: yeah i suppose.
Guy: good, friday night 6pm at my house, i'll cook dinner for you. Wear something sexy.
Girl: lol, ok see you then

women know what we want. Sometimes i even ask women why they think a man wants to date women and they usually say sex. They want sex too, they just dont want to feel like a slut in the process. Dinner, watch a movie for a bit and then make your move. If she balks then
Guy: “Get the f*ck out of my face!”
she will either get with the program or she will stop randomly contacting you. Either way you know and you're done wasting time.
 

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Guy: I aint into this hot and cold on and off chit chat. Im attracted to you sexually and don't want to play around or waste my time of you're not interested in that. I am a guy after all.
Girl: I don't know, I don't sleep with guys on the first date.
Guy: If theres mutual attraction whats the big deal? if you're not attracted to me that's fine, just say so. Im a big boy I can handle it.
Girl: yeah i suppose.
Guy: good, friday night 6pm at my house, i'll cook dinner for you. Wear something sexy.
Girl: lol, ok see you then

women know what we want. Sometimes i even ask women why they think a man wants to date women and they usually say sex. They want sex too, they just dont want to feel like a slut in the process. Dinner, watch a movie for a bit and then make your move. If she balks then
Guy: “Get the f*ck out of my face!”
she will either get with the program or she will stop randomly contacting you. Either way you know and you're done wasting time.
They're just looking at you to lead them in the right direction like you're supposed to be their daddy.
 

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I do normally as the glass guy did, but I do so because i'm not willing to waste time on her anymore, so I wouldn't use this as a way to get to a new plate or something
 

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Some of you guys are dissing this OP for no good reason.

Let me tell you boys, it works, not from hypothetical knowledge but from experience itself.

But for this to work, you hv to hv other available options and basically truly don't give a fvck.

Why don't you people ask OP in more detail?

Discuss it with him.
 

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OP is on the game with this playbook, actually... 100%
 

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im slightly confused ? can someone clarfiy? glassguy you asked chic 2 out instantly according to your 2nd sentence and she rejected that initial asking? ......but the post is about not asking them out so soon ? or do you mean you lowered your value of her when she came back around of the 2nd attempt and that worked?
 

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@derby1 a woman showing slight interest, she rejected his offer... he was like "ok... lol yeah, whatever". So she showed more interest, he said "meh, hmm", she got frustrated as to why he wasnt jumping her bones for a date... his response was on point and basically said to her subconscious.. if you want me, try harder with something real, I dont bite at breadcrumbs.

aka: he RAISED his value and showed hes not hungry for crumbs, OP wants a full-meal-deal

you need to read the two scenarios, the OP's response and game is ON TARGET for both, handled the ball like a PRO
the outcome for #2 is poetry in motion (but he should respond and set a date, she wont wait long)
 
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