A new kind of spineless AFC... the AverageFrustratedWannabeDJ

[oreo_renegade]

Originally posted by crazykid
Or would you rather hang around people that insult you and try and lower you every chance they get?

dude... you can't lower a real man



in fact most people wouldn't even try.

Would you try to knock out some 300 pound boxer?

I highly doubt it, since its obvious you couldnt.


Why would someone try to bring you down, when its rather obvious they can't?




*PS*- Titus, have you read my AFCish Tendencies post?

 

[Titus]

Hi
We seem to be at a dead end here. You people seem to change your mind about the "what is the true nature of a DJ" in every post. One screams "I'm self sufficient," while in the post before that one, he was still screaming, "I want respect," while some others even want the people to CONFORM to their will!
If this isn't like a fykn marketplace filled with sreaming old ladies on a sunday afternoon, then tell me what it is.

People, you don't even fyckin know what a DJ is supposed to be. This is all bullshyt. Bullfrigginshyt. You don't have to answer to this post anymore. So long.

 

[Vincent]

A man is whoever you want to be.

Some people can't live without the respect/approval of other, some are self-sefficient,
and others need help from time to time.

A DJ is a man that shows traits that woman love and want, not what traits a man shows
to other men for their approval/respect etc.

When you try to make it seem like a man has to be a loner, able to stand on its own,
your making a generalization from your own opinions and views, and these views do not always represent the DJ population.

I petition we stop arguing what is it that makes a man, and change it to, what makes
a woman love a man. and i doubt she's gonna say, being able to get advice on how to handle me without using a forum, but you never know

--Vincent

 

[CrzyBadBoyDJ]

I think some people ask alot of questions because they trust the fact that most of you have probably already been in the same situation and they want advice that helped you out in the past. So they don't have to take the hard route. Makes sense to me!

 

[Smooth as Anything]

"Average Frustrated Wannabe DJ"

The word average does not belong.

 

[Eternal]

Maybe it can be "Frustrated Poser Don Juan?"

 

[Eventide]

Originally posted by Titus
Hi
We seem to be at a dead end here. You people seem to change your mind about the "what is the true nature of a DJ" in every post. One screams "I'm self sufficient," while in the post before that one, he was still screaming, "I want respect," while some others even want the people to CONFORM to their will!
If this isn't like a fykn marketplace filled with sreaming old ladies on a sunday afternoon, then tell me what it is.

People, you don't even fyckin know what a DJ is supposed to be. This is all bullshyt. Bullfrigginshyt. You don't have to answer to this post anymore. So long.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Originally posted by Vincent
A DJ is a man that shows traits that woman love and want, not what traits a man shows
to other men for their approval/respect etc.

It has been stated several times that being a DJ is not all about women, it is about being a better person in general. Its coincidence that women are attracted to better people. The Don Juan Center is about all around self improvement, not souly for women.

It is my opinion that a Don Juan is not someone that gets all the gals or all the snatch. A Don Juan is someone that is happy with their life in general. The thing is, most men ignorantly assume that successful relationships with women are the key to happiness, and, in effect, this site concentrates mostly on women.

This has been all aces and spades, but the flaming of newbies asking questions is really getting out of hand. Lets flame people that aren't at the state of Don-Juanity we are and call them Wannabe Don Juans! Wow, of course they wannabe Don Juans, thats why they're here.

If Jack says, "Hey guys I really want to call Susy today but I got her number from a friend, what do you guys think?"

Guess what, Jack doesn't care what you guys think. He isn't looking for your respect. What he really said is, "Hey guys I really want to call Susy today but I got her number from a friend, what will she think if I do?"

Its like ********, only with AFCs.

If Billy posts a worthless tip every other day hoping that he will become some form of demi-god on the forum, well, he's the one looking for respect. He's the true "Wannabe." Except that he already thinks he is a Don Juan, he just wants you all to think the same.

The people who make the inquiries usually don't care.

 

[Titus]

Allright, here we go.
*Titus grabs his screaming, screeching and to the brim filled ego, twists is by the neck, and throws it into the deepest, darkest and most foul stenching pit that vacancies in Hell can provide, where it will burn for all eternity and more. Hopefully.*

Ehm, the bastard got me for a moment when i was writing the last post. Eventide, thanks for writing the hit in the ass door part, that woke me up for a bit. I should have left at least bit of a "benefit of a doubt," as my english teacher calls it, to what you people were writing, but i didn't. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.
*absolutly unbearably horrendous sounds of cracking corn under the kneeling knees, screaming and sounds of uncontrolable wild gurgling of Holy Water that send all the nearby people into screaming, apocalyptic panic*
Again, Eventide, thanks for the slap.

Allright, you say the a DJ is about being a better person in general. I still say that is bull-FRIGGIN-shyt ten times underlined, crossed over and stomped on.
What is a "better person?" I used to think it was self improvement. But it was not. Self improvement is reaching for the stars. Somesort of a wild goose chase that never ends, because it can never end. You can never become "the best of yourself," because there is no such thing. And then what? You finally reach good looks, a good body, you smell good, you shave your dyck every week not to mention having a good car, a flat, you know how to survive for a year alone in the woods, you know how to wrestle a gorilla or beat up Jean Claud Van Dumm or anykind of bullshyt that you people imagine having as a DJ. Then comes the hard part... has any of you ever even ONCE asked yourself anything about keeping and maintaing all of it? I suppose not, because if you had, you would not strive for any kind of bullshyt that you all speak of.
Here is the problem. Sooner or later you realize, that you are not doing all of this for yourself. You are just doing it, to be BETTER. To prove to yourself and others that you are not a loser, an AFC, or whatever you want to call it. Then all hell breaks loose... Do i really want the body for myself, or did i do it all for the approval of the people around me, especialy babes? Did i do my "in the woods survival training" just for the fun and enjoyment of nature or did i do it for proving to others and myself, that i CAN do it? What about my car? Goddang, if i sell it for something smaller and something that uses up less gas, will chicks still fall for me? What about my martial arts? Do i really enjoy them, or did i do it again, just for the toughness? Motherfycker, do i really have to keep all of this up? Do i really have to maintain, my body, my car, my trainings, all of this, just so that i maintain tough and wanted, even thou i know i am not doing it all just for the fun of it? Do i really HAVE to keep all of this up, just so that i have my STATUS? Will i be less of a man, without a good car, knowing karate, knowing how to climb Mount Everest or beating up a Grizzly Bear? *sigh*

You know what your problems is, people?
You are "self improving" for a purpose. Not for yourself.

 

[Eventide]

Originally posted by Titus
You know what your problems is, people?
You are "self improving" for a purpose. Not for yourself.

Boom, bang, bam. Exactly. Dead on. You're right. Good response.

 

[Eternal]

How sure of that are you Titus? How many guys on this board work out for other people? How many skate for other people? How about studying? Gee Titus, do you shower for other people? I came on this board to learn how to raise confidence for myself. Are you posting all this "these are the reasons Don Juans suck" to inform us, or is it a way for you to feel better about yourself for saying "hey guys, everything on this board is wrong! Listen to me!"?

 

[DJ Girevik]

Uhh Titus, just because you can't fathom improving FOR YOURSELF doesn't mean that it's impossible for others to do.

 

[Titus]

Crazykind, if you are already asking, yes, you are working out for other people, not for yourself, yes. I was shocked when i first started asking myself, what is the real reason i work out (after a little les then 2 years of fitness).
Do a test on yourself. Sit down for a moment, relax for a few minutes to gather your thoughts, close your eyes then ask yourself: "could i let go of fitness? Do i dare? Could i live with having less of a body?" And then comes the bonebraking nutcracker: "What would go wrong for me, what am i REALLY scared of, if i would to lose all of my muscles?"
Then answer is much like being run over by a steamroller, if you never have considered such things. I admit, i am not strong enough to let go of it. Al least, not yet. But maybe, someday i will.
As for skating... depends. If you love skating just because of rolling down the streets and running bums over and not because you want to achive something with it, like showing to others how cool you are, what kind of tricks you can do, etc... then no, you are not doing it for others.
As long as you do things just because of doing them, just for the pure enjoyement of them, and not because you want to reach a goal with them, or doing them for somesort of a purpose, then good, you are doing it for yourself. Keep it up.
And yes, if you ask me, everything on this board IS wrong. Just because thousands of people think the same, does it mean that they are all correct? *snickering in the background* That's called "sheep complex"
Sorry Crazykid, you have been heavily lied to, yes. But don't despair. If it is of any comfort to you, i'm a lie myself, while everyone else on this board is also. Including your allmighty Pookboy. The board itself is a lie too.
And as for your confidence... you did raise it, as lots of people on this board, including myself. But, sadly, in a wrong way. We are all still clinging, just like in the AFC days.
Here, let me show it to you, crazy mboy':
When you were unconfident you were still clinging to something. But it was something that other people didn't like, so they spat and pissed on you. Cause the thing you clinged on was not popular, not widely accpeted enough you were always in the dark.
But then one day it happens...
The sky opens and the sosuave god shines a beam on light on your head and you have a revelation! BANG! You become popular! BOOM! You have confidence! BABOOM! You start fycking everything that walks on two legs and has a pair of boobs! Great life, eh? YeeeeeeeesireeeeeeBob, this is the living!
But what have you done to yourself in truth? *BIGsigh* You have just clinged from the not accepted something to clinging to the widly accepted and loved something. But you are still clinging. So you see... all you have done by gaining you confidence is that you have subdued to the might will of the system and it's people, and to what the masses agree that is acceptable and what not.
Where is the great DJ now, people?
You are the totaly same dirt as the rest of the world.
*heavy sounds of sheep screaming in the background*

Oh, and before i forget, Girevik, your chicken in the stove is burning up, you better take it out quickly.

 

[DJ Girevik]

"Crazykind, if you are already asking, yes, you are working out for other people, not for yourself, yes."

Okay, how the hell can you tell this without even knowing him?

"I was shocked when i first started asking myself, what is the real reason i work out (after a little les then 2 years of fitness)."

Well THAT'S YOU, NOT CRAZYKID. THERE's A DIFFERENCE.

"Do a test on yourself. Sit down for a moment, relax for a few minutes to gather your thoughts, close your eyes then ask yourself: "could i let go of fitness? Do i dare? Could i live with having less of a body?" And then comes the bonebraking nutcracker: "What would go wrong for me, what am i REALLY scared of, if i would to lose all of my muscles?"

Uhh yeah, maybe he likes being strong and healthy. Idiot. Same here, I, being the iron junkie that I am, like being strong and healthy. Of course I could let it go, but why would I WANT to? I get muscular, I get strong, I get healthier, I get more energetic. Girls liking that is a bonus, but that's it.

"Then answer is much like being run over by a steamroller, if you never have considered such things."

I've considered running YOU over with one...

"I admit, i am not strong enough to let go of it. Al least, not yet. But maybe, someday i will."

Why? Just to prove to yourself and us that you don't need to "cling"? Whatever, I could give a damn whether someone thinks I'm clinging or not.

"As for skating... depends. If you love skating just because of rolling down the streets and running bums over and not because you want to achive something with it, like showing to others how cool you are, what kind of tricks you can do, etc... then no, you are not doing it for others."

Or you could like showing off cuz it's FUN. Remember kid, people have different thoughts than you do. Get off this whole communist one-train-of-thought ideology.

"As long as you do things just because of doing them, just for the pure enjoyement of them, and not because you want to reach a goal with them, or doing them for somesort of a purpose, then good, you are doing it for yourself. Keep it up."

DJs mack on girls, get GFs, etc, for the pure enjoyment of it. So that kind of disproves your theory of all DJ's clinging.

"And yes, if you ask me, everything on this board IS wrong. Just because thousands of people think the same, does it mean that they are all correct? *snickering in the background* That's called "sheep complex""

Then why are YOU here? If you hate it so much, leave. You're a waste of bandwidth.

"Sorry Crazykid, you have been heavily lied to, yes. But don't despair. If it is of any comfort to you, i'm a lie myself, while everyone else on this board is also. Including your allmighty Pookboy. The board itself is a lie too."

Your stupid attempts to be philosophical are getting nowhere. Just quit while you're ahead... errh, behind.

"And as for your confidence... you did raise it, as lots of people on this board, including myself. But, sadly, in a wrong way. We are all still clinging, just like in the AFC days."

Okay, this is where you are full of crap. You are still clinging, but to make yourself feel better you decide to say that EVERYONE is clinging. Maybe you should be a man and own up to your problems ALL BY YOURSELF.

"Here, let me show it to you, crazy mboy':
When you were unconfident you were still clinging to something. But it was something that other people didn't like, so they spat and pissed on you. Cause the thing you clinged on was not popular, not widely accpeted enough you were always in the dark."

Are you stalking Crazy or are you just BSing? Right, you wouldn't stalk Crazy...

"But then one day it happens...
The sky opens and the sosuave god shines a beam on light on your head and you have a revelation! BANG! You become popular! BOOM! You have confidence! BABOOM! You start fycking everything that walks on two legs and has a pair of boobs! Great life, eh? YeeeeeeeesireeeeeeBob, this is the living!"

For those who enjoy it, it is.

"But what have you done to yourself in truth? *BIGsigh* You have just clinged from the not accepted something to clinging to the widly accepted and loved something. But you are still clinging. So you see... all you have done by gaining you confidence is that you have subdued to the might will of the system and it's people, and to what the masses agree that is acceptable and what not.
Where is the great DJ now, people?"

Apparently you are living in a cave, cuz the masses preach the AFC, not the DJ. Self improvement is self improvement, and if you say your thoughts weren't inspired by something or someone else, you're full of crap. The great DJ doesn't really give a damn about "subduing" and "the system" and "clinging" and trivial crap like that - he's just having fun and becoming the best he can be.

"You are the totaly same dirt as the rest of the world.
*heavy sounds of sheep screaming in the background*"

So are you, and you're the loudest of the sheep.

"Oh, and before i forget, Girevik, your chicken in the stove is burning up, you better take it out quickly."

Thanks for reminding me. I can't cook the sheep without removing the chicken...

 

[Cloud-uk]

Yeah, I'm with these guys titus. And no, not because I'm a sheep, but because I don't like your tone. Your going on all worldly about a website. Honestly, you need to lighten up, and if you want people to hear what you want to say don't go about it in this whole "holier than thou" attitude.

I'm not working for other people. I'm deliciously self centered. I might beef up or work on my voice cos it'll get my more pvssy, but I see this as a fairly acceptable trade off. What do you think I do? WOrk on my looks to make hem happy? To stimulate their visual pleasure? To impress them? Don't make me laugh, I'm doing this for the pleasures of relationships and sex.

I'm replying to this message because I disagree with pretty much everything you say, and in the way you say it. This site is not totally wrong. A lot of the stuff it says is great advice, I mean it. Its great. I disagree with your attempt to dismiss it all in one post, and in your impolite and tactless way of doing it. Get some manners.

PLus what you said is wrong. It kinda sounds like your trying to find a purpose for your existance. Which is fair enough, just if you don't know what the meaning of life is don't act like you do. You seem to be telling people to stop clinging to everything, which I guess is acceptable advice if we we're all about to go off and live the rest of your lives in a budest temple in the middle of a forrest.

I'm just not ready for that comitment at the moment.

This is a self-improvement site. Personly I thing being able to wrestle a bear and beat up jean claude van dame would be fun things to do. I can see the experience of learning those skills as being very enjoyable, and I would be able to beat up bears. Rarrr, big scary bears!

Dude. We live. We die. Get over it. Just do something inbetween these two events and be happy with it. Stop over analysing.

 

[Eternal]

Titus, Titus, Titus...like Girevik said, you don't know me. I work out for football so I can become better. I play football because...*shock* I want to! Wow, amazing huh? I don't go out there and practice kicking a football for an hour in hopes of impressing anyone. I do it so I can become better. Maybe if you were actaully good at something, you would try and improve upon it for yourself. If I were to lose all of my muscles, I would only lose my muscles. I hardly have any upper body stuff, so who cares? That doesn't mean I lost my sense of humor, my writing skills, or my friends. I think you need to get your head out of your own ass, sit down for a minute, wipe the crap from around your mouth, and think..."why am I a dumbass? Is it because I want everyone to think the same way I do? Yes."

 

[Titus]

Yes, Givernik, i know i am a sheep. I never denied it. I am the same dirt as the rest of the world. In fact, i have stated it several times already. And it's no different if you are the loudest or the quietest of the sheep. You get shaved all the time and cooked in the end in both cases.

Allright, Givernik, now, i don't know how to say this, so you'll understand me correctly but i'll try. Look... i'm telling you this as a FRIEND and i'm not fycking around with you, just telling you something that is worth more then any gold in this world and is invaluable for usage til the end of your life. You may have thought of this already, but i'm going to remind you anyway. Only you can know for sure if this was the case with your last replay to my post, but in my opinion, it was.
Look, whenever and wherever you read a post, or a book or whatever, you should try to put out of your mind who wrote it. I got the feeling that your angry replay was much based just on the fact that I wrote it, and not somebody else. And that GREATLY dimishes your chances of seeing it as objective as possible. You saw my post much too personal so you lost your chances of seeing anything useful in it. You may not agree with me, and you see my talking as shyt, but trust me, there is at least one sparkling pearl in every pile of it.
"The great DJ doesn't really give a damn about "subduing" and "the system" and "clinging" and trivial crap like that - he's just having fun and becoming the best he can be."
Yes, he doesn't have to. He is already clinged, he is already subdued, he is already part of the system and he is having his fun within those barriers.
And as for working out, Crazy asked me if he was doing it all for others, not for himself, and i just replied. And i still say fitness is just for impressing others. Would you need fitness and muscles in today's world, if there would be nobody around you to see your body and congradulate you? No, you would not. Cause even the weakest and skinniest, or fattest of the people can live very decent lives in today's society, even more then the beefy ones. But i agree with Cloud, it is a trade off for being more attractive... while still being a cling. And Claude, I say looks are still just because of others. Just like building muscles.
And Givernik, to answer your question, why would i want to let go of fitness: i'ts kinda sad that you didn't understand even the slightest thing i have written up until now, or you wouldnt have written such a stupid thing as "Why? Just to prove to yourself and us that you don't need to "cling"? Whatever, I could give a damn whether someone thinks I'm clinging or not."
Oh well, the fact that i am saddened is my own fault, not yours, Givernik, so save your thumbcoushions on that one.
I want to let go of it, because it is a cling. In a way i feel it as a burden, but, as Cloud put it, still as a good trade off. Or another way: I know i can have an advantage within my society with the body i have. I am doing it for the girls that will go, "wooooohooo, look at that beefius," or for the envy of the guys around me, and not for my inner need. And that fact burdens me.
And as for why i am here, it obvious, isn't it? One for the ego, two for the replies and third, cause i like thinking. You guys are a real gold mine for rattling braincells. I enjoy reading, thinking and observing my own reactions to it all. Pure and simple. I know that is egoistic as hell, but what the fyck...
And Cloud, you have a lot of point in what you have written. I don't live it like that either but it is very tempting... goddang it really is. Living just for the things things you like, with no fighting and rivaling. I deam of something like that... *sigh*
And as for the "holier then thou attitude," that is your perception of it. I can say, i did not mean it that way, but you will still see it like that, or another way, which will be false. In others words, never as i have imagined it, because you cant. And even if you could, then it would be still false because i am fake and blind myself. So it is pointless to argue abou it, or how you pecieve me.

 

[Eternal]

I like how you avoided my reply completly...here's the real kicker..."And as for working out, Crazy asked me if he was doing it all for others, not for himself, and i just replied. And i still say fitness is just for impressing others. Would you need fitness and muscles in today's world, if there would be nobody around you to see your body and congradulate you? No, you would not. Cause even the weakest and skinniest, or fattest of the people can live very decent lives in today's society, even more then the beefy ones." Great reply...apparently you didn't read my reply earlier. I would still work out to kick a football to the best of my ability even if noone was around. Hell, I do that everyday! I go into my backyard, where noone is watching except me and the birds, and I kick. Then i kick somemore. I kick until I get tired. Then I kick for another hour. Why? So I can become better, not in hopes of someone stumbling in while I'm kicking and going "wow, I admire your mechanics!" I know you won't reply to this, because you will take a look at it and go "oh my god, he's right! There IS a reason why people lift! So they can improve themselves for something they like!"

 

[jive]

Titus u have really flawed logic, I suggest you actually read the replies given to you.

 

[DJ Girevik]

Titus, you really need to quit drowning your sorrows in whiskey and cocaine before you reply next time. And it's G-I-R-E-V-I-K, not Givernik.

 

[Titus]

Crazy, you already replied for yourself, why you lift weights. You do it for being better at football.
And my reply wasn't intended for you, but for those who build muscles just because of muscles. You, as you say, do it to be better at your game. Allright, if that makes you better, keep doing it.
And i know what you mean about still kicking football if there was no one around to see you. I say the same for drawing. It appears you have found a something that is driven by you inner need, and not because of your surroundings. Congradulations. You should consider yourself lucky. There are a great number of people who never find something like that in their entire lives.
And no,
I know you won't reply to this, because you will take a look at it and go "oh my god, he's right! There IS a reason why people lift! So they can improve themselves for something they like!"
I completly disagree with you on this one. You do it that way, because you appearently need it. Or for whatever other reason you only know of.
Then i am here. I don't need it. I lift pencils, paper, ink and rubbers, and for that, i SURELY don't need it. So, as i said, i lift weights just for muscles and nothing else. As a lot of other people.

There is also one thing i'd like to point out. "As for skating... depends. If you love skating just because of rolling down the streets and running bums over and not because you want to achive something with it, like showing to others how cool you are, what kind of tricks you can do, etc... then no, you are not doing it for others."
Or you could like showing off cuz it's FUN. Remember kid, people have different thoughts than you do. Get off this whole communist one-train-of-thought ideology.

Givernik, ooops, i mean Girevik, i find this one quite interesting. I mean, did i beat you with a stick, or scream at you like what kind of a bastard you are for doing what you are doing? Hey kid, easy up! I just politely expressed my opinion to which you jumped on like a roaring tiger... interesting...

And boys, you really don't need to worry about my mental condition. You would be very, VERY suprised if you met in person, at least as i see how you imagine me from you posts.
Cheer up, there is no hostilety needed here.