A Man NEVER has to Grow Old

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Age is only a problem to those with a Scarcity Mentality.

A Scarcity Mentality will concoct 100 reasons for his famine.
 

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Do you think Brett Favre is worried about turning 40?

Heh,..
 

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Johnny Depp is 45, that guy doesn't seem old to me.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Do you think Brett Favre is worried about turning 40?

Heh,..
Yes, I think he really loves Football and wishes he was 5 years younger so he could still play. Did you see him on Letterman the other day?
 

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I will repost my other two posts. This thread is more appropriate.
 

Peace and Quiet

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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This is my opinion (although not set in stone):

Let’s say you have a DJ that is in his upper 20s (not such thing as a DJ in early 20s), 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. Assuming the look factor is similar (all good looking or all average looking or all ugly):

When it comes to

•women in her early 20s = DJ in upper 20s will dominate
•women in her mid to upper 20s = DJ in 30s will dominate, followed by DJ in either upper 20s
•women in early 30s = DJ in 40s followed by upper 30s
•women in upper 30s = DJ in 40s, followed by early 50s and upper 30s.
•women in early 40s = DJ in 50s followed by upper 40s and early 60s
•women in late 40s = DJ in 50s and 60s

A more mature DJ should trunk a younger DJ when competing for women in the age group of the younger DJ.
 

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Age Misconception

Who said that a 40-year-old man does not lack a sense of humor? Or that a 40-year-old man does not have fun? Or that a 40-year-old man does not challenge himself physically? All those things should be a quality of every man, regardless of his age. The issue comes down to priorities and maturity (both of which you develop with age and life experiences).

Don’t underestimate the importance of age

Let’s not kid ourselves. For a man, age is an important factor in a lot of things (not necessary when it comes to picking a woman). There are degrees of separation when it comes to “acting” a certain age. Sometimes you can act like a child and that might be cute. But that should not be the dominant behavior in your life.

The Age Factor
Due to technology advances in medicine and diet, men are expected to live between 70 to 85 years old. In essence, a man starts his “second” part of his life when he is between 35 and 42. (Note: 70/2 = 35 and 85/2 = 42.5). That is plus and minus 3. In case you were wondering, incidentally those happen to be the same numbers I pick as the prime of a man.

Consequently, a man tends to start to realize what he finally wants in life once he reaches the 35 age group. Others slightly later. It is about experience shaping his life. Once he realizes what he wants, it will probably take him 3-5 years to create the path toward the direction he is taking. Therefore, if a man at 35 realizes what direction he wants his life to take, by the time his is 40 he will probably have a very good idea of how to deal with certain issues. Let me clarify, I am not saying he comes with a plan…all I am saying is that he will have direction and purpose in his life. What’s the difference? It is not the same to say “I want to become a CEO when I am 50” (that’s a goal) than to say “I want to live a life of economical freedom” (that’s direction). A goal is a dot or point in a graph while direction is the vector (or arrow).

Sorry, but a man in his 20s (even early) have not lived long enough to reach the same sense of purpose and direction of a 35 year old man. A man in his 20s should be working toward self-improvement, with the understanding that he has plenty of time to adjust based on his past and future life experiences, so when he reaches the 35-42 range, he has the control and power required to fuel the direction he wants to take for the second part of his life.

My point is that age should not be a factor in every facets of your life (such as picking women from a particular age group), but should dictate on how we approach the most important decisions life. After all, experience comes with age…and experience plays a factor in our life.
 

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By the way, I totally agree that a man does not have to grow old. A man has to grow mature.

What's the difference between old and mature?

Old = 50 year old (stale) grape fruit juice

Mature = 50 year old wine


You'll notice both come from the grape...but via a different process.
 

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STR8UP said:
To a point age IS an advantage.

Obviously a 20 year+ age gap is extreme, but that doesn't mean that a couple cannot have a happy, functional relationship. It doesn't mean that the woman is only a money grubbing leech, and it doesn't mean the man is "creepy" and can only get women because of his money.
I see what you're saying and I agree that a large age difference is really a "societal ****block" more than it is a natural and real "problem" for a younger girl. I just think that using older rich and famous and goodlooking celebrities who we don't even personally know as an example of the older man/younger woman is not too valid. There's too many other factors at play to say age is the only variable, such as, fame, fortune, good looks etc. Besides how do we know that a given celebrity didn't have more success with younger women when they were under 30 years old? Celebrities tend to be most popular when they're in their 20's, 30's and sometimes up to rearly 40's.

But I will say age in itself can be just a number. The only problem is some early 20's girls have a societal conditioned issue with a number that starts with 30 and higher.
 

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originally posted by ketostix
But I will say age in itself can be just a number. The only problem is some early 20's girls have a societal conditioned issue with a number that starts with 30 and higher.

Originally Posted by RedPill
While you're out marketing yourself to the world, she's out there marketing herself to potential providers.

While you're trying to build a kingdom, she's looking for a king.
Str8's sig identifies this for me. what i take from this is that women are looking for something that we are currently trying to obtain.

while most "older" men have established most of the things we are currently working on.
 

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Latinoman said:
By the way, I totally agree that a man does not have to grow old. A man has to grow mature.

What's the difference between old and mature?

Old = 50 year old (stale) grape fruit juice

Mature = 50 year old wine


You'll notice both come from the grape...but via a different process.
I think that before we can expect others to stop judging you in a negative light based on age, YOU have to stop judging age in such a negative light.

Old is just a word, and yes, you are getting OLDer.

Once you can get past it, and stop trying to substitute words or deny it all together, then maybe a younger person can follow your lead. An older person who is in denial about their age can be pretty uncomfortable to be around, as it is embarrassing to watch at times.
 

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I remember an instructor of mine who was a charming, witty, and smart man. And he was in great shape. I had him pinned for either a boxer or a wrestler. Turns out he was neither. AND HE WAS 52!

I said to myself, "holy ****...this guy is old...but wait, he's fvcking cool as hell....cooler than lot of 20's guys I know".

From the other end of the spectrum, younger guys like me are sometimes intimidated by older guys because we expect them to be lot smarter and experienced than us. Plus, 5-10-20 years on me is a VERY long time. I don't categorize a 30 year old with a 40 year old. 10 years is a big deal.

I guess I can take solace in the fact that older guys will generally be more open to pass on their knowledge to younger guys. There is always exceptions, though . But that's how I interact with older guys in the first place....looking to learn something from their experiences.
 

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Latinoman said:
I am not saying he comes with a plan…
The AFC's were created by woman.
They evolved.
They rebelled.
There are many DJ's.
And they have a plan.

:whistle:
 

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Only an AFC would get that reference.
 

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iqqi said:
The problem is... yes, you do. We grow older everyday, fact is, Jack. Til we can't grow old no more, than we DIE.
You can say for a definite fact that everyone grows OLDER by the day.

You CANNOT, however, say for a fact that someone is "old". That's an opinion.
 

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iqqi said:
I think that before we can expect others to stop judging you in a negative light based on age, YOU have to stop judging age in such a negative light.

Old is just a word, and yes, you are getting OLDer.

Once you can get past it, and stop trying to substitute words or deny it all together, then maybe a younger person can follow your lead. An older person who is in denial about their age can be pretty uncomfortable to be around, as it is embarrassing to watch at times.
I am not embarrassed about my age. I look much younger (as most dark men do) and at the same time I like the fact that I'm 40 (for career reasons). Plus, I have not problems attracting women YOUR age. ;)
 

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STR8UP said:
You can say for a definite fact that everyone grows OLDER by the day.

You CANNOT, however, say for a fact that someone is "old". That's an opinion.
Exactly.

By the way...good thread.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
All that said, I think there is some merit to "acting your age" as well, because there's a certain amount of respect that is commanded which comes along with this. That doesn't mean you have to start wearing fedoras and sipping martinis from the golf cart, it's just accepting your status and maturity level.
It's all about being congruent.

I get where you're coming from, however, the rules aren't the same for everyone. People have a problem with using celebrities to illustrate my point, but the fact of the matter is, if you are wealthy or famous, you can do pretty much anything you want and no one bats an eye. Why not? They are PEOPLE just like the rest of us, but society holds them to a different standard.

My whole point is that there are no set rules that you have to abide by. If you can get away with dressing younger and doing the same activities younger people do, by all means go for it. As long as your look is congruent with your image, no one will say a word, and if they do they are a puppet or a jealous hater.

Back to your point though, you are correct when you say that acting your age can command respect, but it goes back to the fact that this only applies if you don't have other things going for you that command respect. I'm sure part of what allows me to "get away with" certain things being my age is people's perception of me as someone who doesn't HAVE to follow the rules. I'm not saying I am super wealthy or famous, but you don't have to be as long as you have status.
 

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guru1000 said:
Age is only a problem to those with a Scarcity Mentality.

A Scarcity Mentality will concoct 100 reasons for his famine.
Ah, yes -so true -and we have all done that .

A curious thought just entered my head -
I have had about 30 short and long term relationships.. At present I have a 40 something G/f , a 32 year old gorgeous woman who just invited me to lunch and a 19 yera old HB9.9 who follows me around like I am a rock star and who wants to come over to Miami with me to help me buy a condo..

Jeez, I think that women actually, really LIKE me. Ding Ding !
 

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iqqi said:
Thing is, (and I actually love your post), that respect you can command can only be had IF you "act your age".

A 40 year old who is at the bar dressed like a 21 year old, and trying really hard to be the life of the party, just doesn't command the same sort of respect as the man sitting at the table sipping a scotch and smoking a cigar, watching the other 40 year old make a fool of himself.

I think this thread is great but it toes a fine line between promoting retaining a youthful zest and love for life... and acting like a fool in the midst of a midlife crisis.
You are completely missing the point.

Nobody is promoting the idea of being someone you are not.

You are speaking as if there are two sides and nothing in between.

I might go out with my buddy who is 33-34, with his 26 year old g/f, and we might meet up with some of her 24 yr old friends. I laugh and joke with them just like anyone else, and they usually think I'm pretty cool.

I don't HAVE to pretend I am someone who I'm not. I don't HAVE to make a conscious effort to make friends with younger people to retain my youth. I don't HAVE to play up to a stereotype of a "mature man". I live my life and I meet and get along with people who are in their early 20's all the way up to their 40's.

I can sit back and enjoy a fine glass of port and carry on a conversation about art, travel, or finances, but I am just as comfortable jumping in the pool in my boxer shorts at a party after having had a few too many beers.

You don't have to be one or the other.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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