A Long Time Out of the Game and I Don't Like What I'm Seeing

[PantyWhisperer]

In my age group, social media has been a game changer. I see girls who are 7's at best getting validation off many men and it leads them to believe they are of a higher value than they actually are.

Case study: Subject A, we will call her Ingrid. Ingrid and I dated when we were both in our late teens. I had her on social media and have kept her on there. She is an 8 lookswise, nice body, decent face. Aside from this, she brings quite literally jack sh!t to the table. She has limited intelligence, no career prospects, clearly entertains orbiters, has cheated on several men and posts her life on social media.

She still has a harem of men after her, regardless of her being in a relationship.

In reality, she is a low quality female. All she has is her looks. From 25 onwards it is ALL downhill for her. People like to be at the top of there social group and only a select few (the 1%.) have the audacity to break the mold time and time again.

Ingrid is at the top of her social group, it isn't a high quality social group, but she is at the top. Why would she try and move up the social ladder? There is no benefit for her. Her need to belong is met.

Social media exacerbates this as there are more opportunities for validation for females of a 5 lookswise and above. All they need to do is post a makeup riddled selfie and the compliments flow in.

We have a vast toolbox of knowledge on this site which if applied correctly, enables us to get in the top 1%. Being in the top 1% enables you to choose the pick of the litter and filter out the Ingrid's of the world.

I am working on a beast of a post about SMV, which I hope helps a lot of guys on here see the light.

This is what I was saying only said much better. Social Media is spoiling the milk. It's ridiculous. Actually saw a rando dude post on the Facebook of a female friend of mine - a solid 8 at 31yo- "It's okay if you have a kid. I don't mind at all dating someone who has a child"
This was his opener!! And on her wall right after she friended him - she has a pic with her kid as a profile pic so there's full disclosure. That is some sh!t you'd expect to see in a Tinder message after a right swipe - not a cold-call attempt to break the ice on Facebook.
I facepalmed for the guy!! How low can we go? He may as well had said, "It's ok if you have only one arm. I'd fvck a one armed chick!!" Double yikes.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

As a white male, I have no problem attracting decent looking black girls. And many times they are 10-15yrs younger than me. I can't say I have the same luck attracting white girls!

Which state are you in? What it says about you is your "swag" is setup to attract black women.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes sir! I agree quite a few men undervalue themselves but alot of it is that society puts puzzy on a pedestal along with the fact that most men don't know how to calculate true smv. Reminds me of a study done by ok-cupid. Eighty percent of men are found to be below average by the women who they surveyed. That right there in itself tells you that women automatically off the top think that their status is way above damn near every man in their near vincinity.

But, like I always say MOST women are NOT as good looking as they appear to be, they hide alot with make-up, no lie. Thats why I take about two points off when I'm trying to ascertain smv. I've seen too many without make-up and was shocked.

Yeah, but you can't just determine SMV from looks alone. Some has to be from her status, and what she can do for you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

In my age group, social media has been a game changer. I see girls who are 7's at best getting validation off many men and it leads them to believe they are of a higher value than they actually are.

Case study: Subject A, we will call her Ingrid. Ingrid and I dated when we were both in our late teens. I had her on social media and have kept her on there. She is an 8 lookswise, nice body, decent face. Aside from this, she brings quite literally jack sh!t to the table. She has limited intelligence, no career prospects, clearly entertains orbiters, has cheated on several men and posts her life on social media.

She still has a harem of men after her, regardless of her being in a relationship.

In reality, she is a low quality female. All she has is her looks. From 25 onwards it is ALL downhill for her. People like to be at the top of there social group and only a select few (the 1%.) have the audacity to break the mold time and time again.

Ingrid is at the top of her social group, it isn't a high quality social group, but she is at the top. Why would she try and move up the social ladder? There is no benefit for her. Her need to belong is met.

Social media exacerbates this as there are more opportunities for validation for females of a 5 lookswise and above. All they need to do is post a makeup riddled selfie and the compliments flow in.

We have a vast toolbox of knowledge on this site which if applied correctly, enables us to get in the top 1%. Being in the top 1% enables you to choose the pick of the litter and filter out the Ingrid's of the world.

I am working on a beast of a post about SMV, which I hope helps a lot of guys on here see the light.

And you have to determine HER SOCIAL GROUP, because in reality she may stay with this HERD and be limited to the realities within them... Because she certainly won't go to another group and just be another person...

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

In my age group, social media has been a game changer. I see girls who are 7's at best getting validation off many men and it leads them to believe they are of a higher value than they actually are.

Case study: Subject A, we will call her Ingrid. Ingrid and I dated when we were both in our late teens. I had her on social media and have kept her on there. She is an 8 lookswise, nice body, decent face. Aside from this, she brings quite literally jack sh!t to the table. She has limited intelligence, no career prospects, clearly entertains orbiters, has cheated on several men and posts her life on social media.

She still has a harem of men after her, regardless of her being in a relationship.

In reality, she is a low quality female. All she has is her looks. From 25 onwards it is ALL downhill for her. People like to be at the top of there social group and only a select few (the 1%.) have the audacity to break the mold time and time again.

Ingrid is at the top of her social group, it isn't a high quality social group, but she is at the top. Why would she try and move up the social ladder? There is no benefit for her. Her need to belong is met.

Social media exacerbates this as there are more opportunities for validation for females of a 5 lookswise and above. All they need to do is post a makeup riddled selfie and the compliments flow in.

We have a vast toolbox of knowledge on this site which if applied correctly, enables us to get in the top 1%. Being in the top 1% enables you to choose the pick of the litter and filter out the Ingrid's of the world.

I am working on a beast of a post about SMV, which I hope helps a lot of guys on here see the light.

This is great. Kind of the point I was trying to make as well. Social media validation is not even validation anymore. And I think people are starting to realise it. It's tantamount to getting a merit star from the teacher at school: like, 'Well don't you managed to cook your own dinner / get married / go on holiday'. Congratulations.

You can tell a lot about a person's value by their standing within and quality of their social circle(s).

'Ingrid' has one of two options.

a) Leave her group, better herself and potentially join a circle of better quality - though high risk of reducing her individual relative value socially, at least in the short term.

b) Maintain her high standing in a lower quality circle, which will likely result in a very average, mundane lifestyle, and eventual marriage to a man probably of lower value, also.

 

[The Duke]

Which state are you in? What it says about you is your "swag" is setup to attract black women.

lol, I have no clue what swag attracks black girls. I dress nice, wear designer shirts and clothes that fit correctly, but I'm pretty much your all American White Boy raised in the Midwest. Maybe they like shaved heads? I am pretty fit, average height.

 

[Tenacity]

Hot is hot, you're hot or you're not. If you are hot to one group of women you'll be hot to some percentage of all demographics of women.

I agree to an extent. Scott Weiland (RIP) from Velvet Revolver or Austin Winkler from Hinder are just not going to attract many inner city black women due to cultural dynamics. Not saying they would totally strike out, but it's not going to be anywhere near the amount of attention/love they would get from white women.

Take me for example. I do prefer to date black women but in general, I'm WAY more successful in the dating game with black women than other races of women. That has to do with my natural personality and being black in general as a lot of white women are racist and will not date black men JUST BECAUSE they are black.

The few white girls I have dated, their family was indeed racist.

lol, I have no clue what swag attracks black girls. I dress nice, wear designer shirts and clothes that fit correctly, but I'm pretty much your all American White Boy raised in the Midwest. Maybe they like shaved heads? I am pretty fit, average height.

You might come off as the "cool white boy" type, again, that's a far cry from a white boy that looks like Scott Weiland or Austin Winkler. Also understand there's a sub-segment of black women doing what they call swirling.....which is to come after certain types of white men specifically due to promotion of you guys being better financial providers.

Be careful though, because there's a lot of these black women with the "swirling" focus, who are out there making babies with Tyrone the Thug....then they are running over to some white boy like YOU (swirling) to marry them and accept their kid from Tyrone the Thug.

They believe white boys like you are better financial providers because it's very hard to find a black man that has his shyt together AND (keyword AND) is willing to accept her 1 - 3 kids from 1 - 3 thugs in terms of marrying her. These women are finding that white men are more likely to have their financial house in order AND a good chunk of them are willing to accept her kids by 1 - 3 thugs.

 

[The Duke]

Tenacity- you can have all the black girls including Tyra Banks! I do flirt with them but thats about it. I'm just not attracted to them......guess that makes me racist like those white girls that won't date a black guy just because he's black! ;- ) Man I get tired of the white hate!

 

[guru1000]

Tenacity- you can have all the black girls including Tyra Banks! I do flirt with them but thats about it. I'm just not attracted to them......guess that makes me racist like those white girls that won't date a black guy just because he's black! ;- ) Man I get tired of the white hate!

LOL. I have a ton of black chicks hitting on me online and in person. Must be my Italian mafioso look.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Black women are good by me, they have some of the best bodies and teeth if you fine the right ones.

Asian women don't get it done for me. Never dated one never will, I wonder why sometimes

 

[futureWSOPchamp]

It's one thing that's so great about this site and it's that you guys always want to stand FIRM on your principles. Which is great!

But if you really think T.O., that you "walking away" is going to change anything with that individual girl or if more men "walked away" that's going to change anything, then you are sadly mistaken.

If every man in America walked away from women tomorrow, women will just continue fvcking each other. Notice I said "continue" because I believe at least 80% of women today are bisexual.

Women can give a rat's a.ss if we walk away man lol. This is THEIR market. Call it like it is. We don't have anymore Power in the dating game. We "think" we do, but we don't. The only POWER we have, is what the fvck a woman ALLOWS us to have for the short term rental period that we have her. When she's ready to randomly call that lease, there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Lol, I love how guys beat their chest about "controlling the frame". Dude, you only control the frame because she's allowing it. At any moment, for any reason or for no reason.....she can FLIP on your a.ss, cancel the lease, and move onto the next guy like you NEVER existed.

She might be able to cancel the lease but all of us men run out of sh1tz to give at one point in time. If she doesn't wanna give into my power and frame and appreciate my ability as a breadwinner and sport f3kking skills she can f3kk off. I hope you feel the same way.