A good career with great rewards at the end?

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Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?
 
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  • Define great results?
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  • Personal ethical limitations?
  • Financial capital?
Besides, If you really, really can pour your heart soul 7 days a week, 14 hours a day for five years to anything just by deciding to, that is quite sensational talent in itself.

If that really is so, based on your pic, my recommendation is a job of gay escort:
14 hours times 7 days times 52 weeks times 80% utilization rate times 200$ per hour would net you 4 076 800 bucks.

Invest that and with 4% percent drawdown rate you have passive income of
163 072$ a year for the rest of your life. Great results for a five year stint. :lol:


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Of course I'm just frigging joking!
 
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Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?
None. You'll be burnt out by the time you get 9 months in and your results will decline more and more as you go because you are mentally and physically exhausted.

This is not a sustainable nor healthy way to go about work, nor intelligent according to research done on it.

This isn't 1890 anymore. Your goal should be to get the most amount of work done in the least amount of time, maximizing efficiency, not the opposite way around, freeing you up for other things in life. Living your life to work is honestly a pretty crappy way to live. I averaged 65 hours a week for a year while I was in my early 20s and 20+ years later I think I must have been insane for doing it. That was 5 days a week.

Also seems pretty impossible since you are already working out 7 days a week foing full body workouts.

Apparently you have figured out how to create more hours in a day than any other human being in history. Perhaps you should market and sell your secret.
 
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  • Define great results?
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Besides, If you really, really can pour your heart soul 7 days a week, 14 hours a day for five years to anything just by deciding to, that is quite sensational talent in itself.

If that really is so, based on your pic, my recommendation is a job of gay escort:
14 hours times 7 days times 52 weeks times 80% utilization rate times 200$ per hour would net you 4 076 800 bucks.

Invest that and with 4% percent drawdown rate you have passive income of
163 072$ a year for the rest of your life. Great results for a five year stint. :lol:


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Of course I'm just frigging joking!
Got to pay the cost to be the boss and do whatever it takes
 

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what's left for anyone under age 35 today is crumbs.
Raise that age to 42/43 (1981 births, the beginning of the Millennial generation). Gen Z will also experience this effect of only getting crumbs.

Boomers still control most of the wealth in the USA.

In Q3 2023, 55+ individuals controlled 72.8% of wealth in USA. In Q3 1993, 55+ individuals controlled 56.2% of wealth. In Q3 2003, 55+ individuals controlled 58.6% of wealth. In Q3 2003, most Boomers were between 40-54 years old.

In Q3 2023, 55+ people were mainly Boomers, with the tail end being the oldest members of Gen X and 78+ year olds being a part of The Silent Generation.



Millennials have gotten crapped on in the modern economy. In the late 2000s/early 2010s, the earlier 1980s born Millennials were graduating from school during the worst recessionary period since The Great Depression.

The financial futures of most Millennials depend upon how much of an inheritance they will get from their Boomer parents since the data points show that the Boomers still control the wealth. .
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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I absolutely agree that pouring your heart to career means working smarter not harder:

Keep a limit on how much you spend rime working in the actual job.

But spend a lot of time to learn new things for the career, keep up to date with the latest trends.spend your own time and money to continuously upgrade your skillset:
Seminars, courses, hobby projects and networking with other professionals.

Once your skills exceed what your position needs, job-shop and monkey branch for better position.

I also agree that you should't plan to have till death do us part love story with your career. Understand that it's just your turn and plan accordingly. (Did anyone spot analogy here?)

For example I'm 100% certain that self thought Prompt Engineer is not going to stay as 300k/year job for too many years.

So while money is flowing in, save and invest a big part of it and have a PLAN B, by updating skills and creating side hustles/businesses.
 

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Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?
Become an artist.
 

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IMO it should be something that people need, won't go away, you can develop your business and slowly phase out and taking only the managerial duties of running it.


Well if you have the magic ball, please share it with everyone.
I’m going all in on personal training and my body. It’s something I know more than 99% of people than and I’ve put my time in. And to me it will always be needed and not something ai can know
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?
What were your grades like in school? What level of education are you bringing to this career search?
 

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Raise that age to 42/43 (1981 births, the beginning of the Millennial generation). Gen Z will also experience this effect of only getting crumbs.


The financial futures of most Millennials depend upon how much of an inheritance they will get from their Boomer parents since the data points show that the Boomers still control the wealth. .
Lot of good data in this post, but it think it's important to remember that each of us has complete control of putting ourselves in a position to not need to rely on inheritance to be as prosperous as we'd like to be, we can do it ourselves.

Let's be honest, Millennials and Gen-Z by and large don't have strong work ethics, and many don't "value" wealth as much as previous generations (although ironically are more materialistic). There will be plenty of opportunities for those of us with grit, discipline, and a willingness to put in the effort to build wealth organically.

Would it be nice to know that I can fall back on inheritance, or that inheritance will make hard work less important, hell yes, I'd love that. But my reality is that nobody is leaving me a damn thing that is going to change my life. You have to play the cards you're dealt, and if you're dealt a poor hand, you're the only one who can really go out and get yourself some better cards.

My parents will not leave much to me beyond some low-value hunting land in a rural area, but the intangibles they've instilled in me in terms of my value systems and morals are something that I truly believe money cannot provide
 
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Good post about sales, but couple of points of my own:

A cute blond girl can outsell you.
This is also nice to comment to from behind the veil of anonymity, but in my experience this is not always so:
If the target audience of influencing and selling is bunch of AFC guys then a cute blonde girl has advantage.
If on the other hand target audience is women.. then it's totally different ballgame.. ;)

Although extroversion is considered as natural salesperson trait and it indeed makes selling more comfortable, the introverts can be really, really awesome salesguys because they tend to listen more.

And once you gather enough experience and learn, it doeen't matter wether you are introvert or not, you words and nonverbal communication is just what works anyway, not what used to came to you naturally in the beginnig. Kind of like the seduction game.

In the field of influencing and selling, as in the world of seduction, experience and learning will make a really huge difference.

I would again really emphasize internal locus of control, growth mindset and extreme ownership here. Those are the things that really do the work.
 

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Sales relies a lot on genetics. Charisma, looks, voice, height, etc. A cute blond girl can outsell you. It's also a very emotionally demanding job. You need to be able to turn emotions on, off, and adjust them to other people.
Completely wrong, sales relies a lot on the product and market/territory you are placed in. In addition, a cute blond girl can only outperform an average salesman with her looks alone and she is usually moved to a TL eventually.

If you possess a few qualities, you can be great in sales. IMO, there are usually good rewards for putting in more work as far as the industry as a whole goes. It's a highly transferable skill. Other salesmen for different products or services may see you as a colleague if they're agnostic about what they sell.
These qualities are luck, emotional intelligence, and effort.

But if you have attributes that don't work with the job, then it will be a struggle to hit quotas every time. If you're an introvert or have a soft heart (it does take a little psychopathy to be good), then that works against you. Sure, you might be able to compensate in some ways, but if rewards are competition based, then you might win or lose due to genetics alone.
I think being an introvert is more advantageous than being an extrovert in sales. I do agree that having morals can work against you in some cases. If you are put in an environment where you have to be sleezy to hit you targets then I would consider leaving that job. Furthermore, there's a lot more to sales than hitting quota. Politics and BS like KPIs come in to play too.
 
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think of doing as the reward, not the achievement of a goal.
 

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Good post about sales, but couple of points of my own:



This is also nice to comment to from behind the veil of anonymity, but in my experience this is not always so:
If the target audience of influencing and selling is bunch of AFC guys then a cute blonde girl has advantage.
If on the other hand target audience is women.. then it's totally different ballgame.. ;)

Although extroversion is considered as natural salesperson trait and it indeed makes selling more comfortable, the introverts can be really, really awesome salesguys because they tend to listen more.

And once you gather enough experience and learn, it doeen't matter wether you are introvert or not, you words and nonverbal communication is just what works anyway, not what used to came to you naturally in the beginnig. Kind of like the seduction game.

In the field of influencing and selling, as in the world of seduction, experience and learning will make a really huge difference.

I would again really emphasize internal locus of control, growth mindset and extreme ownership here. Those are the things that really do the work.
And that's why the pharmaceutical companies usually initially send 2 people to doctors offices when they attempt to get new clients.

One hot guy for the receptionists who act as the gatekeepers on who gets to talk with the doctors and one hot woman for the doctors.
 
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