rsofa said:
well... first off, she was drunk when she wanted to kiss me...that probably changes everything.
Actually I like being in this "friendzone" because I get to do stuff, I never did before with girls. Was it because the didn't want to or just didn't want to go out with me. Well about school, she would go out but her mom is annoying and wont let her that's the problem, I also like face to face approaches, but with her it's not always possible. Tried some kissing afterwards, but she is kind of showing stuff like she doesn't want to...even If we cuddle and all.
She told me she doesn't want a relationship...yet.
I don't know, im not gonna let her go, because then I don't have anyone else. And im really attached to her now.
Maybe this summer or the next one, things will change. That will be, her getting a boyfriend and forgetting about me or, me being her boyfriend.
1 more thing. She is different. I didn't meet her like a normal girl. I said something weird and she liked it. She's not like other girls...for real... not that bull**** stuff, she really doesn't like some things other girls do, and she likes stuff other don't.
@FantasPT
You're kind of right. Too bad she's a weirdo like me
If you would be talking about a normal girl I would 100% agree
In one way I know what to tell you, but in the other I don't.
So I'm going to do my best, and maybe some other member in the forum will correct me, or add more info to what I'm about to say to you.
She's not special, she's not a weirdo, she is in control of you.
The only reason why you don't do more kind of things with other girls, like cuddling, it's because you don't want to, and I'm about to tell you why, based on my experience.
So I've met a variety of types of girls, on my journey through life in these 18 years of my life, I've met the ones that think they rule the world and that every man, woman and child need to kneel in her presence, I've met emo, I've met a girl that it's a little suicidal, emo and happy in way that she laughs about almost everything that everyone says, I've met nerd, I've met one that thinks the world is all sunshine and rainbows, I've met wh0re, I've met the kind of girl that think's she is a badass and has a big bad boyfriend that in the end is the biggest chicken in the world.
Right now I know and talk with, a girl that it's playful, another that its a happy kinda emo and another that from what people here in the forum told me, she is emotional needy, and she also is playful (you can see this post where I talk about her
Need some Guidance).
So after telling you this, you can see that I've met some good variety of girls, and I'm going to tell you another thing that happens with me.
I don't know why or how but in every school that I was in, and in the school that I an right now, I've always had the right connections, I've always socialized a little bit with the people that are or know the popular and important people in school, and until some months ago, I always cared about what people thought of me, that was a big mistake, and I tell you this because I think it might be your mistake too, even with this handicap I've always done a variety of things with the girls I've met, because I had times that I really didn't give a fvck about what people where thinking about me, and some months ago I just said fvck all of them, and I just started doing what I wanted to do, in the way I wanted to do it, I don't care about what people think about me, so I got more active in the things I do with the girls that I know now and talk with now.
Before I started thinking like this, I would like grab the ass of one or another hot girl I used to talk with, now If I want to grab the ass of all the hot girls I know, I'll do it, If I want to grab the girl, and bring her close to me, or cuddle with her I just do it, and I do this in a almost unconscious way, because I just do it without thinking, over the years it became almost an automatic thing, and I'm an idiot because this might be making me escalate and I don't even notice, the girl I talk about in the post, when I first met her, I used to kiss her in the neck, face , and even bite her in the neck, now I don't do that because of I changed my personality in some ways, now sometimes she bites me, and she comes right next to me and cuddles, but I had to move on because she doesn't want anything with me, now I'm talking with the other girl that I told you that it is playful, this one I grabbed her ass, I've told her some... lets call it nice things, and I don't talk much with her, but every time she sees me, she comes to me and messes around with me, like trowing pens at me, and then making me go after her, then there's this other girl that is the happy kinda emo I told you about, she's one of the very hot Brazilian girls in the school that I an right now, she has one ass, that is like, a creation of the heavens xP, she messes around with me too, and I don't even talk much with her, she sees me and comes around and does something to annoy me, like messing with my hair, stealing my mp3, this one I haven't done much kino, but I'm going to work on that next time I'm with her.
Ok so to do the stuff like cuddling, and other Kino stuff, you don't need to worry much about if she likes it or not, just do it, see the reaction of the girl, and remember the sometimes when she says no, she is really saying yes, just pay attention to the way she says it, and after she says it just start continue doing it and see if she tries to stop you by pushing you away, and the going out stuff, don't worry too much about that either, because I'm not the type of guy of going on dates, I more the type of doing what I wanna do right in the moment, but I have limitations due to lack of experience and knowing the signs and body language of girls (something I'm working on).
I do this kind of stuff to girls I've met a day ago, the one that It's playful, I only started talking with her like one or two days before I grabbed her ass, and then she started messing around like provoking me, and stuff like that, to make me respond and to be with her.
You just need to.... I don't know... just free your mind a little, don't worry about it, and do it, do it to some of the girls you know.
I'm not an expert in getting to know girls, because I'm shy in the subject of approaches and because I never had to do really much to meet girls, normally they are the ones who start talking with me because some friend of mine knows them and they want to know me (I never understood why they want to know me, I'm an Idiot...) or I just start talking with them because some guy I know knows them.
Some other thing, no one likes being in the friendzone, you think you like it because you get to do some stuff with her, but its an illusion, friendzone it's exactly that, its a zone for friends, in max youre going to get to be one of her best friends, and nothing else.
One sign that proves that she is in control of you, is you saying that you will wait till next summer if you have too, so that she gets a boyfriend, or to see if she will accept you, dude really??? You really said this?!
One thing that proves she doesn't want to be your girlfriend is she saying that she doesn't want a relationship, and it doesn't matter if she says "yet", if she wanted anything with you, she wouldn't say that, read this
Things Women Say and What They Really Mean, in that post it is written and I quote, ""Im not ready for a relationship right now" = im not ready for a relationship with you, ever", and believe, this is real.
And one thing you said that proves her dominance over you, is you saying that you're attached to her and thats the reason you don't wanna let her go.
I really think that she, saying that she can't go out with you because of her mother, is an excuse.
Just let this girl go, and start doing kino on other girls you know and that you find interesting, or just go and start hanging out with one hot girl that one of your friends knows, just use him to make the introduction between you and her.
Just don't let things get to a point where they think you're just a friend, and if you hang out with them and only talk, and if you don't do any kino and some other approaches that show them you don't want to be only their friend, that you want some more, a relationship or a friendship with benefits, them you are going to go to the friendzone.
I don't know, read other post in the forum, read journals of members of the forum, and see their experiences, their advices, and try to understand, and if you need just ask about the things that you need help with.
And about she being drunk, I still think you should have kissed her.