35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?

[Foe]

Being a single guy going to a swingers party, OP has no chance. He has no wife/gf to swap. Those places are filled with older women.

yeah never been but have seen a growing interest/awareness in people Ive met even some of my friends have dabbled. From what Ive heard its like shooting fish in a barrel but then again I have never had direct experience.

 

[Pro Gamer]

arrange marriage with your mother's choice of a girl can be a good option for you

 

[ThisIsSparta]

I'll throw you a bone here. You're getting shvt on because you talk too much. For us here with high testosterone it's very annoying. Women talk, Men do. Most of us are already dealing with squabble and convo's going in circles with the women in our lives, but at least it pays for itself with puss. You're acting like a women and the members here are consciously or sub-consciously treating you like an annoying woman.

Everything you need to know has already been laid out at some point on this forum. Less talk, more read. You don't need the attention nor custom advice you think you do. You just need to read, absorb and implement. Shvt or get off the pot buddy.

This is gold!

@Anom dont be this Guy

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I have a Hapacel friend who is around 50. He’s still trying. so. There’s no end date.

 

[CountSuavula]

School was a boiling hot nightmare for me. I never got noticed, while everyone around me did. No matter how good I took care of myself, how charming I was, how funny I was, etc. it was a battle I could never win. Also, I noticed that every time I tried to approach or impress a girl, the universe throws an extremely embarrassing moment at me, like there's a cloud over my head.

Now, the last time I was at this forum, every member here would type like they were ****ing angry teenagers. This was back in 2007/2008. The members here were horrible horrible horrible back then, and so far, it seems to have improved greatly since then. A girl I liked flew over from Canada to see my best friend, and it messed my head up baaaaaaaaaaaad. And no one here cared, no one helped me, no one gave good advice, everyone just threw around bad advice as if it was good advice. It made me angrier and want to stay single forever.

Is it best to just stop eternally and focus on everything else in life? Should I save myself the embarrassment of trying? I'm a pretty creative liar, and I have successfully convinced people that I'm not a virgin. So maybe I could lie for the rest of time? Though I'd love to have sex, I don't seem to crave it as much as everyone else.

I don't know if it will help, but I can post a picture of myself if you guys want, so you can tell me what my chances are.

Dear original poster,
thank you for sharing.
I only glanced your very cool post of honesty, and I read none of your 4 pages of responses.

Get some escorts. I think you have to. And honestly I never got any paid escorts but they will DEFINITELY place you on track,
once you sex up a woman, other women WILL notice
so do it strategically,

nothing compares to the richness of screwing a woman for free because she has a full emotional connection into you

Sex is super Important for health and growth

a woman will teach you more than every post on this forum combined.

best wishes, keep positive, get escorts to start, but aim for healthy relationships as your goal

 

[CountSuavula]

Also, put in extra time into learning about females and sex. Put in tons of time into it. These forums are probably not it.

get an escort or 5

and there are probably good benefits for a male that has less partners in his life. You will have to research hard core in order to play your cards right but you can still make it.

 

[corrector]

No? I've been working out on and off for years, but haven't reached that perfect toned body I've been going for. There was no... "advice" going on here around 2008.

Agreed, I joined back in 2006 and can attest to all that. You had allot of bootcamps and field reports (ie kinda of like what @Jesse Pinkman is doing). But there were plenty of group bootcamps. What did you think of those?

There was less sophistication or modern vernacular (ie blackpill/chads/incel, etc...)

I'm seeing a lot of people that joined in 2014, 2018, 2023, etc. so you guys didn't have to see how awful the place was. It was like the place was run by know-it-all teenagers that were constantly twitching in rage, barely knew how to type, and acted like they ran the place. No professionalism, no carefully walking through steps. Just... douchiness. It was enough to make anyone go "Ugh, nevermind. I'll go to literally any other forum that isn't this one." Granted, I still read the articles attached to this forum, which were informative, but avoided the forum like the plague.

Yeah, I was bashed quite a bit on that old site. One thing that is great about the modern times is that you don't stick out as much if you are struggling it's too common to mean anything.

My dad was run over by a 22,000lbs vehicle and miraculously survived and doesn't need a wheelchair, but moving around is still painfully tough for him. My mom has advanced trigeminal neuralgia which was pretty much crippled her. Oh wait, it gets better, she's starting to develop schizophrenic tendencies. So I have to balance my life, my jobs and helping my folks all at the same time.

I have similar issues but in a different way. My folks are both old and also have issues. Not to the same extent as yours, but enough to have me have to take care of my mother (ie she's unable to walk on her own properly like she was barely able to early this year, and she had some mental issues last year), and I have to put on juggling act myself with work, taking care of my folks, and mangaging debts, etc...

Do you have sibilings? I don't. Each day at work you are worried about them and they miss you when you are at work.

As for posting a better picture of myself, yeah... I'm still gonna look like garbage no matter what due to my exhausting life. So I'm sure those "sad puppy eyes" or whatever the comparison was is still gonna be there.

Edit: Oh, and for the record... that picture of myself is NOT "at my worst". My worst would make that picture look like the damn Mona Lisa.

An "exhausting life" I guess is a common way to describe many gen-Xers as taking care of folks take an enormous emotional and mental toll and going to work takes a toll as well. Do you have kids as well on top of that?

 

[corrector]

And honestly I never got any paid escorts but they will DEFINITELY place you on track,

You should before you give advice like that. You have an idealized version in your mind about visiting an escort. Only someone like @GoodMan32 or @Gamisch, or @MatureDJ or @sangheilios who regularly sees escorts, or have seen them in the past, is qualified to say something like that.

I myself can not say they have put me on the right track. Visited one in December, 2014 and had a nevous breakdown that month. I couldn't even drive my own car and would have lost my license if I documented that with a doctor. There are some serious dark issues involved with this. Like you I had this idealized concept, but it was way more gross, and repulsive to the core, when it plays out in real life. These women sleep with allot of guys. While on paper that is obvious, when that's in your actual system that you visited someone like that, then it's not on paper anymore and its real. You can't see yourself in the mirror the same way.

The sweet spot with me so far is OnlyFans since I can interact with escorts using that online portal but it has no spill-over effect on the day-to-day in any bad way. It just seems nicer with me then physically visiting them (assuming I do go there).

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Lets be honest here, all you guys are sub normie circus freaks IRL.

smfh @ the number of guys defaulting to pros. Are all you guys truckers, lol? Is it so hard to board an airplane for ffs?

<-- Russian girls you could hit for free if you had a shred of personality.

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This sub 5 is clearly pounding this chick out.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Look at this SUB ZERO putting you losers to shame. [GAME RECOGNIZED]

I love this little dude

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This chick waits on this dude hand and foot, so what's your excuse?

This dude has an entire family and he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

The REAL issue here is y'all are just a bunch of lazy, wh1ny, b1tches. Fight me

 

[GoodMan32]

Lets be honest here, all you guys are sub normie circus freaks IRL.

smfh @ the number of guys defaulting to pros. Are all you guys truckers, lol? Is it so hard to board an airplane for ffs?

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This sub 5 is clearly pounding this chick out.

Board an airplane, eh?

Flying to a country where sex is easier, is more expensive than utilizing an escort. The cost of the trip alone costs more than a session with an escort.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Board an airplane, eh?

Flying to a country where sex is easier, is more expensive than utilizing an escort. The cost of the trip alone costs more than a session with an escort.

Flying to a country where RELATIONSHIPS are easier.

Yes, for christ sake guys, you bang an escort, and she doesn't like you, she can easily extort you for ALL your money. It happens A LOT.
You are entering into an illegal contract with someone you wouldn't trust to be your girlfriend... yet are trusting to safe guard your life!?!

You are inviting an evil entity into your life whose sole purpose exists to extract as much money as she can get in a single night by any means necessary. Half of these chicks are blasting meth and special K in order to deal with the possibility of bringing another fatherless kid into the world or sitting on you in order to keep their kid fed. You don't think they're willing to gut you if the opportunity presents itself?

Would you voluntarily pay to sit in a room beside a psychopath any other day of the week?

She knows you ain't sticking around for the long haul, you're a dude with cash, desperate enough to involve yourself in the criminal underworld. I don't know where y'all think prostitution is safe and secure, cut and dry. Lizard people travel in packs, her pimp is just a phone call away and to him you're just a meat stick holding a money clip. Not only are you actively participating in human trafficking, you are laying beside a person who would likely be classed as a lab rat, hosting all manner of ****-killing viruses. Talk to my best friend who is stuck with herpes FOREVER, for a mistake he made 20 years ago. His only option now IS prostitution. STDs lower your SMV to NOTHING, only a sociopath (like Klaus Schwab) would consider exposing someone to a potentially deadly virus for an extra buck.

You roll the dice with your life when you use escorts, every single time.

But if you took the vaccine, then I say, go for it! This is the life you deserve.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Go to Amsterdam. Legal prostitution, 100% disease free. Don't forget my commission.

 

[corrector]

Flying to a country where RELATIONSHIPS are easier.

Yes, for christ sake guys, you bang an escort, and she doesn't like you, she can easily extort you for ALL your money. It happens A LOT.
You are entering into an illegal contract with someone you wouldn't trust to be your girlfriend... yet are trusting to safe guard your life!?!

You are inviting an evil entity into your life whose sole purpose exists to extract as much money as she can get in a single night by any means necessary. Half of these chicks are blasting meth and special K in order to deal with the possibility of bringing another fatherless kid into the world or sitting on you in order to keep their kid fed. You don't think they're willing to gut you if the opportunity presents itself?

Would you voluntarily pay to sit in a room beside a psychopath any other day of the week?

She knows you ain't sticking around for the long haul, you're a dude with cash, desperate enough to involve yourself in the criminal underworld. I don't know where y'all think prostitution is safe and secure, cut and dry. Lizard people travel in packs, her pimp is just a phone call away and to him you're just a meat stick holding a money clip. Not only are you actively participating in human trafficking, you are laying beside a person who would likely be classed as a lab rat, hosting all manner of ****-killing viruses. Talk to my best friend who is stuck with herpes FOREVER, for a mistake he made 20 years ago. His only option now IS prostitution. STDs lower your SMV to NOTHING, only a sociopath (like Klaus Schwab) would consider exposing someone to a potentially deadly virus for an extra buck.

You roll the dice with your life when you use escorts, every single time.

But if you took the vaccine, then I say, go for it! This is the life you deserve.

Yeah, better to deal with them on a screen rather than in person. You cant catch an STD through a screen. Also if an escort is a sociopath, what does it make the guy who willingly allows himself to be exposed like that? The way you describe this sh1t is no wonder I had a mental breakdown. The whole thing is insane!

 

[MatureDJ]

Look at this SUB ZERO putting you losers to shame. [GAME RECOGNIZED]

I love this little dude

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This chick waits on this dude hand and foot, so what's your excuse?

For CrippleGame to work, you need to ... uh ... be crippled, and luck out with the media covering your story, and then getting a whacked up chick that for whatever reason takes a liking to you.

 

[cush21]

Have faith man, you're still young and have time. Self improvement is the key

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Have faith man, you're still young and have time. Self improvement is the key

Op told me he was gonna take a bunch of pills and Epstein himself. Sounds like he had more issues than getting laid. Either that or he was trolling the forum and didn't want to hear any more of my sob stories.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I got a hooker for my first time when I was 28. I do believe it helped me despite the experience being one I wouldn’t repeat. Just sort of cleared up my head surrounding sex

 

[Stephen89]

Improve yourself

Work out, eat right, sleep right

Get yourself new outfits, colours, trends etc

Develop your self worth, self confidence

Read around attraction of women what they like, what is a turn off

Analyse and improve every day

Maybe go to therapy, change your mindset

Develop your life, save your money, live your life, your hobbies, do what makes you happy

I'm 34, I communicate well and had younger women in their early 20s reciprocate back to me

Get a better haircut for your face shape

Your profile says you was born in sept 89?

Improve your social skills

 

[Stephen89]

Your behaviours matter too

Hit the gym and improve your body language