35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?

[Epicwinguy]

No? I've been working out on and off for years, but haven't reached that perfect toned body I've been going for. There was no... "advice" going on here around 2008. I'm seeing a lot of people that joined in 2014, 2018, 2023, etc. so you guys didn't have to see how awful the place was. It was like the place was run by know-it-all teenagers that were constantly twitching in rage, barely knew how to type, and acted like they ran the place. No professionalism, no carefully walking through steps. Just... douchiness. It was enough to make anyone go "Ugh, nevermind. I'll go to literally any other forum that isn't this one." Granted, I still read the articles attached to this forum, which were informative, but avoided the forum like the plague.
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Oh man, this reminds me of Newgrounds back in the day. Probably the source of some of my problems, lol.

 

[Anom]

Exactly, I should have been clearer in my advise, I wasn't suggesting you create a lifestyle around hookers, more to play catchup as they are professional and you will learn quicker without the embarrassment that can come with doing it in the wild.

You came with a specific issue, this solves it. If you had asked how to get the love of your life I would have given different advice. If you had asked how to get a girlfriend I would have given different advice. "35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?" sets the tone of the conversation and the advice I gave follows this.

Okay then, so let's say I do that Bunny Ranch thing right just now, and come back a few days. I went a few rounds, I'm not a virgin anymore, and my "technique" was slightly better than I thought. Not great, but it's something. What is step 2? I just continue working out?

I didn't want my life to be about hookers either, I just wanted to inquire about prices and going a few rounds.

Oh man, this reminds me of Newgrounds back in the day. Probably the source of some of my problems, lol.

Hoooooooooly hell that place has an awful community, at least in the early-to-mid 2000s. Is that place still that bad?

 

[Epicwinguy]

Honestly I wonder how bad OP ****ed up to still be a virgin at 35. Even I lost my v card before I was 30, and I'm a sperg.

 

[Epicwinguy]

Hoooooooooly hell that place has an awful community, at least in the early-to-mid 2000s. Is that place still that bad?

No, unfortunately they got rid of their general discussion forum. So many good memories... Then I realize I am lamenting the loss of an internet forum for teenagers.

 

[Anom]

Honestly I wonder how bad OP ****ed up to still be a virgin at 35. Even I lost my v card before I was 30, and I'm a sperg.

I've been with girls and touched them, but it's not something I bring up often because these were usually the wrong girls. I've had girlfriends, but they didn't really go anywhere. Then life happens and things take up your time. I'm not saying that as an excuse, it just happens to people.

It was the right girls that were difficult to get - the ones that went after my friends usually, who weren't that much better to be honest.

No, unfortunately they got rid of their general discussion forum. So many good memories... Then I realize I am lamenting the loss of an internet forum for teenagers.

It's still there. It's under the "community" link on the front page.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.

Lol, fvck... from Ops replies, you won.

Ok well lets discuss pros then.

Vietnamese:

Thailand: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eHxVvqzEtmc (oh man... I lol'd)

Mexico:

If you're gonna use them, you might as well go for quality and price in a place where you're not going to go to JAIL.

Y'all are still losers. I question why you're on a website about picking up women at all. You should go join Swoop The World.

I know a guy in Guadalajara and his whole business is offering 'medical related' tourism.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Your awesome life..yeah we all know that our infamous member who joined end of September ( 3 weeks ago) named Alice in wonderland is this AMAZING thuggish man...

I always wonder how a happily married man even finds a niche website like this...oh wait:

- you conveniently disabled the ability to check your profile
-,already talked about snitching and reporting.
- don't provide an alternative solution


I kinda sense you've had many profiles before and you have some animosity towards me... but oke lets summarize YOUR solutions so far to help out a 35 y.o virgin

- " be like me"..(uhm...oke?)
- engage in criminal activities to "get an edge"
- stop losing
-find a virgin girl ( what 99% of men want )
-dont be a cuck
- don't take the creeper route
-dont work and " stare at 4 walls"
(The best advice)-get a baggy old jeans, a hoodie, k-mart brand sneakers, no muscles and with a minimum wage job.
- be ugly, deformed and an a$$hole

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That rapper named Fabulous had a song called "breath" with a line saying "you know what YOU RIGHT".

OP @Anom my advice was to simply get your d1ck sucked for once ,fast, nice and easy, but I'll refrain from commenting now.

You're best bet is to listen to our newest thunderstorm named Alice(...). I think he tries to say that you should go get a wife in another country. Kinda makes sense...good luck and let us know if it worked out for ya.

Just out of curiosity, how are you not equating p4p with breaking the law?

Also I already discussed how OP can get women easily without prostitution via DM... which apparently he has disregarded. None of it includes illegal activities... so.. op.. I guess listen to rap, use hoes and chug black pills. GLHF and you win Gamisch, you know how to pick em when you see em. I'll bow out at this point.. Your last message sucks though, you should learn how to respond with wit.

 

[Foe]

What is step 2? I just continue working out?

It was the right girls that were difficult to get

In short yes however you will face a new problem, its the market that sets the value. From the sounds of things your hitting a sub 5 SMV, this means your going to be very disappointed with what's available to you. You have two choices, settle or up your SMV. Increasing SMV is what every guy worth his salt on this forum has already suggested.

Body takes time (start now), money takes time (start now) the only thing available to you for short term gains is upping your personality. You are going to have to get your hands dirty in the field, start experimenting with cold/warm approach and build your charm.

As a guy on here already mentioned personality goes along way. Wheat Waffles gave me a SMV of 5 and I regularly hit 7+ SMV, my last 2 girlfriends were easily 8+ and apparently its not my looks.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Isn't that how a forum works, discussing things?

Look...... there are no pro´s here, everyone is still learning/wants to learn from others (mistakes).

Asides from some disturbed fake posers that create fictional characters here and call everyone else losers and incels for being here while having nothing to show for themselves, there are rookies here (like you) and there are people that learned to be more or less successfull in procuring pvssy and/or navigating the shallow waters of LTRs and marriage.

People here provide you with advice on how to proceed from where you stand right now according to your writings. Wether you take that advice or not is up to you.

While a forum works through "discussing things", there has to be an understanding that YOU start at 0 (ZERO).
While it is perfectly fine to ask for help, it is your turn to start DOING THE THINGS instead of starting discussions with people that are way above your league wether the advice is valid or not.

While it is useful to understand why you are doing these things, you will have to experience some things to understand why you are doing other things.

You just startet a marathon, not a sprint and right now you are still arguing with your coach why you should start with your right foot instead with your left foot and wether it wouldnt be wiser to wear a red shirt over a yellow shirt.

So...... how about you just get going and do what you are told, while you keep reading, learning and reporting your progress for the next couple of years and get some finetuning to your approach from time to time,

OR ignore what you dont like to hear and suffer the consequences for the rest of your life.

 

[Plinco]

School was a boiling hot nightmare for me. I never got noticed, while everyone around me did. No matter how good I took care of myself, how charming I was, how funny I was, etc. it was a battle I could never win. Also, I noticed that every time I tried to approach or impress a girl, the universe throws an extremely embarrassing moment at me, like there's a cloud over my head.

Now, the last time I was at this forum, every member here would type like they were ****ing angry teenagers. This was back in 2007/2008. The members here were horrible horrible horrible back then, and so far, it seems to have improved greatly since then. A girl I liked flew over from Canada to see my best friend, and it messed my head up baaaaaaaaaaaad. And no one here cared, no one helped me, no one gave good advice, everyone just threw around bad advice as if it was good advice. It made me angrier and want to stay single forever.

Is it best to just stop eternally and focus on everything else in life? Should I save myself the embarrassment of trying? I'm a pretty creative liar, and I have successfully convinced people that I'm not a virgin. So maybe I could lie for the rest of time? Though I'd love to have sex, I don't seem to crave it as much as everyone else.

I don't know if it will help, but I can post a picture of myself if you guys want, so you can tell me what my chances are.

I didn't read through this whole thread, too much to read. Don't make women a focus in your life. Sex is not a big deal, trust me. Find things you like to do and interact with the world. Love yourself and don't make anything else too big of a deal.

 

[johnrambo]

Your moral standing (read arrogance and whitenightery) is not going to assist your outcome. Woman dont give a stuff about your moral quandry or complete lack of life experience. You only get one life, you have wasted the majority of your best f'ing years so get on craigs list now start living. Or go to a swingers party, do something ffs.

Being a single guy going to a swingers party, OP has no chance. He has no wife/gf to swap. Those places are filled with older women.

 

[Deranged]

Edit: Also I've been reading a lot of other threads, and articles. There are a few contradictions, which is why I ask the things I ask.

I'll throw you a bone here. You're getting shvt on because you talk too much. For us here with high testosterone it's very annoying. Women talk, Men do. Most of us are already dealing with squabble and convo's going in circles with the women in our lives, but at least it pays for itself with puss. You're acting like a women and the members here are consciously or sub-consciously treating you like an annoying woman.

Everything you need to know has already been laid out at some point on this forum. Less talk, more read. You don't need the attention nor custom advice you think you do. You just need to read, absorb and implement. Shvt or get off the pot buddy.

 

[Foe]

Being a single guy going to a swingers party, OP has no chance. He has no wife/gf to swap. Those places are filled with older women.

yeah never been but have seen a growing interest/awareness in people Ive met even some of my friends have dabbled. From what Ive heard its like shooting fish in a barrel but then again I have never had direct experience.

 

[Pro Gamer]

arrange marriage with your mother's choice of a girl can be a good option for you

 

[ThisIsSparta]

I'll throw you a bone here. You're getting shvt on because you talk too much. For us here with high testosterone it's very annoying. Women talk, Men do. Most of us are already dealing with squabble and convo's going in circles with the women in our lives, but at least it pays for itself with puss. You're acting like a women and the members here are consciously or sub-consciously treating you like an annoying woman.

Everything you need to know has already been laid out at some point on this forum. Less talk, more read. You don't need the attention nor custom advice you think you do. You just need to read, absorb and implement. Shvt or get off the pot buddy.

This is gold!

@Anom dont be this Guy

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I have a Hapacel friend who is around 50. He’s still trying. so. There’s no end date.

 

[CountSuavula]

School was a boiling hot nightmare for me. I never got noticed, while everyone around me did. No matter how good I took care of myself, how charming I was, how funny I was, etc. it was a battle I could never win. Also, I noticed that every time I tried to approach or impress a girl, the universe throws an extremely embarrassing moment at me, like there's a cloud over my head.

Now, the last time I was at this forum, every member here would type like they were ****ing angry teenagers. This was back in 2007/2008. The members here were horrible horrible horrible back then, and so far, it seems to have improved greatly since then. A girl I liked flew over from Canada to see my best friend, and it messed my head up baaaaaaaaaaaad. And no one here cared, no one helped me, no one gave good advice, everyone just threw around bad advice as if it was good advice. It made me angrier and want to stay single forever.

Is it best to just stop eternally and focus on everything else in life? Should I save myself the embarrassment of trying? I'm a pretty creative liar, and I have successfully convinced people that I'm not a virgin. So maybe I could lie for the rest of time? Though I'd love to have sex, I don't seem to crave it as much as everyone else.

I don't know if it will help, but I can post a picture of myself if you guys want, so you can tell me what my chances are.

Dear original poster,
thank you for sharing.
I only glanced your very cool post of honesty, and I read none of your 4 pages of responses.

Get some escorts. I think you have to. And honestly I never got any paid escorts but they will DEFINITELY place you on track,
once you sex up a woman, other women WILL notice
so do it strategically,

nothing compares to the richness of screwing a woman for free because she has a full emotional connection into you

Sex is super Important for health and growth

a woman will teach you more than every post on this forum combined.

best wishes, keep positive, get escorts to start, but aim for healthy relationships as your goal

 

[CountSuavula]

Also, put in extra time into learning about females and sex. Put in tons of time into it. These forums are probably not it.

get an escort or 5

and there are probably good benefits for a male that has less partners in his life. You will have to research hard core in order to play your cards right but you can still make it.

 

[corrector]

No? I've been working out on and off for years, but haven't reached that perfect toned body I've been going for. There was no... "advice" going on here around 2008.

Agreed, I joined back in 2006 and can attest to all that. You had allot of bootcamps and field reports (ie kinda of like what @Jesse Pinkman is doing). But there were plenty of group bootcamps. What did you think of those?

There was less sophistication or modern vernacular (ie blackpill/chads/incel, etc...)

I'm seeing a lot of people that joined in 2014, 2018, 2023, etc. so you guys didn't have to see how awful the place was. It was like the place was run by know-it-all teenagers that were constantly twitching in rage, barely knew how to type, and acted like they ran the place. No professionalism, no carefully walking through steps. Just... douchiness. It was enough to make anyone go "Ugh, nevermind. I'll go to literally any other forum that isn't this one." Granted, I still read the articles attached to this forum, which were informative, but avoided the forum like the plague.

Yeah, I was bashed quite a bit on that old site. One thing that is great about the modern times is that you don't stick out as much if you are struggling it's too common to mean anything.

My dad was run over by a 22,000lbs vehicle and miraculously survived and doesn't need a wheelchair, but moving around is still painfully tough for him. My mom has advanced trigeminal neuralgia which was pretty much crippled her. Oh wait, it gets better, she's starting to develop schizophrenic tendencies. So I have to balance my life, my jobs and helping my folks all at the same time.

I have similar issues but in a different way. My folks are both old and also have issues. Not to the same extent as yours, but enough to have me have to take care of my mother (ie she's unable to walk on her own properly like she was barely able to early this year, and she had some mental issues last year), and I have to put on juggling act myself with work, taking care of my folks, and mangaging debts, etc...

Do you have sibilings? I don't. Each day at work you are worried about them and they miss you when you are at work.

As for posting a better picture of myself, yeah... I'm still gonna look like garbage no matter what due to my exhausting life. So I'm sure those "sad puppy eyes" or whatever the comparison was is still gonna be there.

Edit: Oh, and for the record... that picture of myself is NOT "at my worst". My worst would make that picture look like the damn Mona Lisa.

An "exhausting life" I guess is a common way to describe many gen-Xers as taking care of folks take an enormous emotional and mental toll and going to work takes a toll as well. Do you have kids as well on top of that?

 

[corrector]

And honestly I never got any paid escorts but they will DEFINITELY place you on track,

You should before you give advice like that. You have an idealized version in your mind about visiting an escort. Only someone like @GoodMan32 or @Gamisch, or @MatureDJ or @sangheilios who regularly sees escorts, or have seen them in the past, is qualified to say something like that.

I myself can not say they have put me on the right track. Visited one in December, 2014 and had a nevous breakdown that month. I couldn't even drive my own car and would have lost my license if I documented that with a doctor. There are some serious dark issues involved with this. Like you I had this idealized concept, but it was way more gross, and repulsive to the core, when it plays out in real life. These women sleep with allot of guys. While on paper that is obvious, when that's in your actual system that you visited someone like that, then it's not on paper anymore and its real. You can't see yourself in the mirror the same way.

The sweet spot with me so far is OnlyFans since I can interact with escorts using that online portal but it has no spill-over effect on the day-to-day in any bad way. It just seems nicer with me then physically visiting them (assuming I do go there).