35 and a virgin, is it best to give up?

[ManFromTartarus]

OP, it's good to get advice here, and a looks makeover that most are suggesting is well warranted, but don't limit your input to this forum. I would also get some outside opinions from people around you, especially women.

 

[The Duke]

There was no... "advice" going on here around 2008. I'm seeing a lot of people that joined in 2014, 2018, 2023, etc. so you guys didn't have to see how awful the place was. It was like the place was run by know-it-all teenagers that were constantly twitching in rage, barely knew how to type, and acted like they ran the place. No professionalism, no carefully walking through steps. Just... douchiness

Funny, I showed up here in 2008. I was freshly divorced, only had sex with one woman my entire life and that was the one that I married. I was clueless. Tried dating and got my ass handed to me. Had to date down just to get a date. With the help of this forum, and my desire to succeed and improve I became a top 30% guy that had no shortage of good looking girls lined up.

Those same ones you turned your nose up at, showed me the ropes and helped me gain knowledge I had no way of getting otherwise.

You are full of fuhking bullschitt...as much bullschitt as excuses.

 

[johnrambo]

Funny, I showed up here in 2008. I was freshly divorced, only had sex with one woman my entire life and that was the one that I married. I was clueless. Tried dating and got my ass handed to me. Had to date down just to get a date. With the help of this forum, and my desire to succeed and improve I became a top 30% guy that had no shortage of good looking girls lined up.

Very inspiring story

 

[Anom]

OP, it's good to get advice here, and a looks makeover that most are suggesting is well warranted, but don't limit your input to this forum. I would also get some outside opinions from people around you, especially women.

That's what spurred my confusion on the facial hair thing. Some women said they liked it. Some have said to keep the mustache, but lose the beard, while others say the opposite. I didn't even think I had the face that could work without facial hair.

I'm also not understanding the "smart glasses" thing, because a lot of people seem to have differing definitions on that. And I have to ask, WHY is there a swear filter on this forum when people can just circumvent it?

 

[Gamisch]

School was a boiling hot nightmare for me. I never got noticed, while everyone around me did. No matter how good I took care of myself, how charming I was, how funny I was, etc. it was a battle I could never win. Also, I noticed that every time I tried to approach or impress a girl, the universe throws an extremely embarrassing moment at me, like there's a cloud over my head.

Now, the last time I was at this forum, every member here would type like they were ****ing angry teenagers. This was back in 2007/2008. The members here were horrible horrible horrible back then, and so far, it seems to have improved greatly since then. A girl I liked flew over from Canada to see my best friend, and it messed my head up baaaaaaaaaaaad. And no one here cared, no one helped me, no one gave good advice, everyone just threw around bad advice as if it was good advice. It made me angrier and want to stay single forever.

Is it best to just stop eternally and focus on everything else in life? Should I save myself the embarrassment of trying? I'm a pretty creative liar, and I have successfully convinced people that I'm not a virgin. So maybe I could lie for the rest of time? Though I'd love to have sex, I don't seem to crave it as much as everyone else.

I don't know if it will help, but I can post a picture of myself if you guys want, so you can tell me what my chances are.

You are 35. Time to let go of your child hood traumas . Nobody gives a rats azz about your problems bruh .

I also don't like your attitude. You, as most dudes with your issue , are not humble enough. If you were more you'd be more appreciative of life, love your body, women, even this forum

Funny, I showed up here in 2008. I was freshly divorced, only had sex with one woman my entire life and that was the one that I married. I was clueless. Tried dating and got my ass handed to me. Had to date down just to get a date. With the help of this forum, and my desire to succeed and improve I became a top 30% guy that had no shortage of good looking girls lined up.

Those same ones you turned your nose up at, showed me the ropes and helped me gain knowledge I had no way of getting otherwise.

You are full of fuhking bullschitt...as much bullschitt as excuses.

This.

My sympathy must be earned, i dont give it away anymore. This isthe jungle, andmen like OP and all these other manchilds are food for the real lions.

This is like tge fourth 30+ virging this month lol. Lets see if OP knows how to act humble and put in the fecking work.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

I'm already doing the gym for 1 hour. I do the stairmaster for 30 minutes, then 100 sit-ups,100 push-ups and do 30 heavy lifts. I don't know if that's enough. On the alternate day, I do the stairmaster for an entire hour, but not do the lifts. I still do the sit-ups and push-ups all the same. They do stay on a 300-400? calorie deficit, I don't remember the exact numbers.

You dont need a gym for what you are achieving with that training regimen.

If you are physicaly able to run, forget stairmasters and the likes. Running is a lot more time efficient and its a lot more masculine. Only women, fags and old farts use stairmasters. If you have problems with your knees go cycling.
Where do you live?

If you are in a gym, use it, meaning lift actual weights, instead of spending most of the time on feminin cardio machines. There is a TON of solid youtube channels that can point you in the right direction on how to grow a decent body. Go inform yourself and do the work!

In general, start developing masculinity and self-confidence, you seem to lack it a lot. There is no easy solution to your problem like change glasses-shave-done, you will need to work hard on yourself physicaly and mentaly.

Make no mistake, it might take you years to become a man amongst the top 20% (which will give you a solid chance on 80% of women).

You also need to get rid of this "im a virgin"-mindset, it seems to drag you down a lot. If it helps you mentaly to not be a virgin anymore, pay a hooker once and be done with it. Seriously! You dont need to keep your virginity for your one true love.

Also, get your finances in order. Living with another dude is a nogo, no woman is going to take you serious if you dont have your own place. Again, DO THE WORK, get a better job or work your way up to a better income. There is no way around this!

So, start NOW ......

* Start taking your gym time serious. Build up your body to a point where women start complimenting you on it.
* Get a decent income and your own place to live.
* Become socially adapt with women and learn "game" (again, tons of info on this forum to read!) DO THE WORK!


If all of this takes years, so be it. You will still have the other half of your life to enjoy what you work for.

Embrace the suck man!

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Go to the Philippines

Problem solved.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

At 35 you still have time. But that time won’t last forever. Act!

 

[Gamisch]

Go to the Philippines

Problem solved.

2001 called and told me you are 20 years late to tge party..

Seriously , places like these are flooded with pathetic losers from the west. By now those women, especially between ages 20 and 40 have a certified blueprint how to milk a western loser to the bone.

With all due respect ,but men like these are at the absolute bottom of the hierarchy. Nr 99 out of 100. If you wanna be successful in tbe Philippines you better be at very least within the 50% range.

If such an adventure goes wrong ..such a man might seriously lash out by either self harm or indeed the harm of others.

 

[Nitrozv20]

This is me
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I posted that picture to show whether I was inherently ugly. As in... if I was "beyond repair" or not. An insult I had to endure a lot throughout my life. My hair is not purple, that is just a bluish light near me.


No one is angry. I actually made an appointment minutes ago, so I can get contacts and better glasses. I have a gym that's part of my apartment complex that I started at. Once thing that's confusing me as that some ladies like facial hair, some don't. Is it best if I'm giving the beard a close trim or taking it off completely?

Get your nutrition on point, get to the gym, get a good haircut, clean up your beard. Get some freaking sun and movement in your life.

 

[Anom]

And please quit whining about getting negative feedback on your appearance. You're 35, you should be able to handle criticism, especially from people who will give you their unvarnished opinion. If you want compliments, work for it.

No one's whining, I already explained this part. I've heard infinitely worse. As for the "drop the virgin attitude", I'm way ahead of you by a thousand miles. That's not something you ever want to advertise anyway, because what good would it bring?

I'm honestly surprised that I supposedly had the facial structure to make NOT having facial work, that was the basis for most of my earlier replies. Just today I had someone tell me to keep the facial hair I had in the picture I showed, but just fade it in more. Do I cut my hair short altogether? Or do I cut it so that it's "medium-long" or just medium? I see a lot of people working the medium-long thing, but I don't know if I have the face to pull it off.

As for the "puppy eyes" thing. Are we talking about how I look in general? Or the facial expression I was making.

 

[Gamisch]

No one's whining, I already explained this part. I've heard infinitely worse. As for the "drop the virgin attitude", I'm way ahead of you by a thousand miles. That's not something you ever want to advertise anyway, because what good would it bring?

I'm honestly surprised that I supposedly had the facial structure to make NOT having facial work, that was the basis for most of my earlier replies. Just today I had someone tell me to keep the facial hair I had in the picture I showed, but just fade it in more. Do I cut my hair short altogether? Or do I cut it so that it's "medium-long" or just medium? I see a lot of people working the medium-long thing, but I don't know if I have the face to pull it off.

As for the "puppy eyes" thing. Are we talking about how I look in general? Or the facial expression I was making.

-Get a job(or 2)
- find a hooker on Craigslist or whatever y'all use in the USA. I bet there's a way to find one.
- get a steady one,like every month or so. Tell her you are a virgin.
- let her provide you with the gf experience. -Ask her to kiss you ect. Take her out..treat her like she's HUMAN and ask her to do rhe same to you
- forget about relationships, dating ect. Focus on other shyte. Do whatever you like. You missed too much by now. Its pointless to play catch up now.
-take the easy route bro...

 

[Anom]

-Get a job(or 2)
- find a hooker on Craigslist or whatever y'all use in the USA. I bet there's a way to find one.
- get a steady one,like every month or so. Tell her you are a virgin.
- let her provide you with the gf experience. -Ask her to kiss you ect. Take her out..treat her like she's HUMAN and ask her to do rhe same to you
- forget about relationships, dating ect. Focus on other shyte. Do whatever you like. You missed too much by now. Its pointless to play catch up now.
-take the easy route bro...

no

 

[Gamisch]

no

As in? What do you rather do? You think at this age with zero experience and such a hostile environment and era for dating the focus on women you don't get will bring you joy and happines?

No to WHAT bro??? Please enlighten me

 

[Anom]

No to your terrible ass idea. Isn't the point of this forum to be a man and do the work, and NOT take the easy way out?

 

[Gamisch]

No to your terrible ass idea. Isn't the point of this forum to be a man and do the work, and NOT take the easy way out?

You have the wrong arrogance , attitude and sense of humbleness, but others already pointed that out I see.

Terrible idea? What's your " better " plan?

The goal is to become a happy man . You don't look too happy in that picture tho..

Why didn't you had this fire when you was 17/21/25/28/30/32 /34? Why NOW?

Again ,what's your plan?

 

[Anom]

You have the wrong arrogance, attitude and sense of humbleness, but others already pointed that out I see.

Yes, they sure did.

Terrible idea? What's your " better " plan?

It was already laid out for me. Get a better job, cut my hair and facial hair, work out, move so that I live on my own. That's why I'm still here and asking questions about it. Just because someone expresses confusion to something doesn't automatically mean that it's some sort of excuse or them fighting the advice.

The goal is to become a happy man . You don't look too happy in that picture tho..

There's a bit more to a person than one picture.

Why didn't you had this fire when you was 17/21/25/28/30/32 /34? Why NOW?

Didn't I go over most of this? My earlier years weren't easy. I went to very nasty schools. Mind you, I got close, but ended up attracting the wrong girls. I also had some intense manic depression back then.

Again ,what's your plan?

(points to the response of the second quote)

 

[Foe]

no

Get over yourself, you are literally the person standing in the way of your ability to achieve what you want. Gamish had good advise. It takes a deep issue to get to 35 and not be laid once, time you understood the gravity of that situation and stop f'ing around.

The fact you started this thread shows you are willing to put yourself out there for public critique, good first step. Next step get laid, if that sounds daunting (which it should, given your situation) get a hooker to minimise the walls you have built for yourself.

Your moral standing (read arrogance and whitenightery) is not going to assist your outcome. Woman dont give a stuff about your moral quandry or complete lack of life experience. You only get one life, you have wasted the majority of your best f'ing years so get on craigs list now start living. Or go to a swingers party, do something ffs.

Also given your lack of experience be prepared for a complete fail on your first time, sexual disfunction (no erection, premature ejaculation, clumsy action) these are all yours to overcome and to be honest it takes years of good f'ing to get any good at it.

Buy viagra just in case and have it ready for your first crack, it may just be the thing that sets you up for a second round.

 

[Anom]

You only get one, get on craigs list now and start living. Or go to a swingers party, do something ffs.

Ah yes, a hooker. Won't I risk getting a disease? Surprised that wasn't mentioned.

I'm also getting PMs from people mocking the standard posters here and giving me very different advice. What the **** is happening?

 

[Foe]

Ah yes, a hooker. Won't I risk getting a disease?

I'm also getting PMs from people mocking the standard posters here and giving me very different advice. What the **** is happening?

No, the average woman is sleeping with multiple men who are sleeping with multiple woman, do the math. Hookers from what I have been told practice safe sex which is not my experience with western woman. Id roughly guess 7 out of 10 girls I have been with have not given a sh!t about protection and what do you know, Im still disease free.

So this is probably the least of your worries not to mention this is a easy way to experience well above your SMV which frankly I think would be better for your self esteem then hitting your equivalent (if your lucky) or lower (which is likely).