"13 types of men women should avoid"

[backbreaker]

http://www.aolhealth.com/healthy-living/relationships/bad-boyfriends-husbands

Apparantly, you should avoid every type of man.

This isn't so much a list of men you should avoid, as much as it is a reason to justify a woman's flaky/woeish when she does whatever she does, by pointing to one of the list....

she can be flaky, get out of shape, not have any aspirations, go clubbing every night, but its' the mans' fault beucase he went to school got good grades and made something of his life? Becuase of this he is "woefully imcomplete".


seriously, words can't describe how thankful I am for this forum at times.

 

[jafyk]

I've read through the list and I don't see anything wrong with the writer's concerns. These are vices some men have and from that 12 lists it's hard for anyone of us to say we don't exhibit some of those traits even it's temporary. When I read the tone of what guys here have to say I see many of those qualities mentioned by the writer of the article. The general tone I see on this site is "my way or the high way" or "the woman should always conform to the man's wishes if not ditch her for someone else" I'm not surprised many people didn't respond to your post. They either know it's true or share your view.

 

[sodbuster]

The problem with that list is we all have a few or those tendancies to some degree. I see it as a great list to get rid of any guy on the planet

 

[thedeparted]

Why is anyone reading this shlt? Oh yeah, b/c it gets inserted into our email programs. Talk about an agenda. BB is right that this is just a way to justify female slutishness -- toss him out, go to the next. When I think of these 30-something wh0res who have gone through man after man with no real relationship, it makes me puke. Where is the article from aol on fickle ho bags that are never satisfied?

P.S. jafyk is a fat chlck, I'd bet my left testicle on it

 

[jafyk]

Why is anyone reading this shlt? Oh yeah, b/c it gets inserted into our email programs. Talk about an agenda. BB is right that this is just a way to justify female slutishness -- toss him out, go to the next. When I think of these 30-something wh0res who have gone through man after man with no real relationship, it makes me puke. Where is the article from aol on fickle ho bags that are never satisfied?

P.S. jafyk is a fat chlck, I'd bet my left testicle on it

You shouldn't just start calling people names without knowing anything about them just because they don't share your views. I am a guy who realizes guys have their faults too and no guy can 100% say he doesn't have one of those traits. That been said, any woman who doesn't want a relationship with any man because of all that list is selling her self short. I guess the best thing is for a woman to decide which of those vices she can put up with and also look for other good things about the guy. Afterall, I have a suspicion that guys like you just wanna screw and move on to the next chick wash, rinse, repeat. So, you shouldn't be bothered anyway. You can be in denial all you want but those concerns are true. I've had to deal with guys like that myself. example the ones who do stuff for you and therefore expect you to agree with them on everything or even let them control you. I can only imagine how a relationship like that would be.

 

[darkstarrr]

I've had to deal with guys like that myself. example the ones who do stuff for you and therefore expect you to agree with them on everything or even let them control you. I can only imagine how a relationship like that would be.

Those are good points but like some of the other posters have said, most guys display some of those traits to an extent. As far as giving to receive, I think there was another thread dedicated to that discussion a few weeks ago.

The only other thing I have to add topic specifically is that:

If I was in a relationship and I was with a woman who was a good girl, who introduced me to her family, etc and tried to "be there" for me as best as she could, dealing with all my *****ing and moaning because I didn't have a job for example and was broke so she was kind enough to pay on dates.

THe least I would expect her to expect from me is a little FVCKING RESPECT!

My mother sat me down and explained this to me right after the cvnt flipped the script on me. She said in the old days the man would be the bread winner and the woman would play her role by providing moral support, being sweet, cooking, whatever. Sh1t is a lot different these days.

Now suddenly when you do something nice for someone who you are in a SUPPOSED relationship with you have to be careful because they might not appreciate what you are doing.

Whatever, the older I get themore I realize how equal rights and the masculinization/feminization of society along with the tweaked minds of generation X is making this whole relationship thing very complicated.

We have to remember there are a lot of fine lines and even more ambiguities.

 

[bigjohnson]

Whatever, the older I get themore I realize how equal rights and the masculinization/feminization of society along with the tweaked minds of generation X is making this whole relationship thing very complicated.

We have to remember there are a lot of fine lines and even more ambiguities.

Or you can do what big corporations do when trade unions get impossible to deal with; go offshore and let the wailing begin.

 

[Grizou]

Interestingly enough, there are other articles like "How to spot a PUA" that get me laughing my ass off. For one, the things these wanna-be authors write are generally worth a shait. Do not expect anything of high quality written by someone who is working for an online service like AOL or the very. Good writers would not stick with such an employer (then again, times can be rough). On the other hand, things are written in an extra provocative manner to cause reactions as ours. As much BS the article about the 12-13 bad boys describes, it is nothing less than a transition of what is being preached on this website.

Don't be a nice guy, straight-forward...
Don't be a total jerk, ... debatable, yet IMO true....
...

It's not the single elements of the depictured characters that should be conceived as bad, but the extent to which one gives in to these features. In other words, don't be a total nice guy, but have some features at hand that give you the appearence of a nice guy sometimes. Then, on an other occasion, play another card.

If you bring it all down to own thing, I think for us men it is just about being flexible enough and play all our cards, not just one or a few of them to the extreme.

 

[backbreaker]

in one sentence it says don't be a total jerk, then the next page it says watch out for nice guys. one page it says look out for the controller than look out for the passave agressive guy.

every guy on earth has traits.

I think you are reading too much in the article, I don't think the author was that intelligent. it's not like a 10 page blurb was written on each trait. hey girl watch out for nice guys, jerks, moma's boys, distant guys, players, shy guys, out of shape guys, guys who look too good, cheap skapes and guys who try to spend too much money on you.

 

[backbreaker]

in one sentence it says don't be a total jerk, then the next page it says watch out for nice guys. one page it says look out for the controller than look out for the passave agressive guy.

every guy on earth has traits.

I think you are reading too much in the article, I don't think the author was that intelligent. it's not like a 10 page blurb was written on each trait. hey girl watch out for nice guys, jerks, moma's boys, distant guys, players, shy guys, out of shape guys, guys who look too good, cheap skapes and guys who try to spend too much money on you.

 

[Luminescence]

Yet another example of modern/western women's entitlement complex.

 

[STR8UP]

And we wonder why women are lonely and unsatisfied whether they are single or whether they are in a relationship!?!?

This is how their pea-brains work. Sad. Very sad.

 

[backbreaker]

a friend of mine hired his GF at his job (stupid). it was more of a freelancde gig, she wasn't on salary or anything. she went to work and started lollygagging around, and he gave her something very vital to do. she said she did it, every day, and when he went back and checked around a month later, he found out she was just doing enough to where it looked like
she did the work but when he dug deep into it she didn't do 85% of it.

so he puts his foot down becuase now he has to do his job and her job and still pay her, so she curses him out, telling him how demanding he is, how muchh of an ******* he is for not paying her (for the job she did not do) and breaks up with him.

let me reacp.

1. does not do work, and not only that liked about doing it
2. still gets aid half
3. *****es HIM out
4. breaks up with him

according to her, she was too demanding, he does not care about her feelings. I watched to tell the woman ***** who are you to talk? the man you supposly care about, you fvck him over at his pride and joy, the company he built.

now he's an *******.. they broke up 2 months ago, and she still sends him an emai labout once a week just to curse him out and tell him how much of an ******* he is. out of the blue, random ass reminders of his assholishness.

my point is of that story, is that it's article's like this that justify that type of silly childish behavior. this is a 27 year old woman we are talking about here.

if he is childish what the hell is she?

 

[amoka]

check out the author of the book. Probably a lesbian.

 

[backbreaker]

she looks like she has been on the divorce circuit

 

[Mr. Me]

You know, I'm thinking... this means that us evil men can still go after the women who don't have an internet connection or those that do but can't read.

 

[penkitten]

the author is clearly a disgruntled woman who just wanted to be heard.
the publishers just want to make a few bucks and they know inexperienced women will see the book and pour in to buy it in the stores.
those women are going to buy the book seeking info the same way as men buy the books to double their love.

the trick with any written material is weeding out all the crap.

 

[Trajhenkhet01]

Too many people readily believe everything they are told without considering the source...

 

[jafyk]

the author is clearly a disgruntled woman who just wanted to be heard.
the publishers just want to make a few bucks and they know inexperienced women will see the book and pour in to buy it in the stores.
those women are going to buy the book seeking info the same way as men buy the books to double their love.

the trick with any written material is weeding out all the crap.

So are you saying the article is crap? I believe some of the issues mentioned there are true and worth taking a note of. The ridiculous part of the article is suggesting that you avoid these men. I think the article should have been titled something like " 13 types of traits in men to consider before getting into a LTR" This gives readers the option to read and decide what to do about what they've been informed of. By using the word "avoid" it's like telling the women what to do.

 

[penkitten]

So are you saying the article is crap? I believe some of the issues mentioned there are true and worth taking a note of. The ridiculous part of the article is suggesting that you avoid these men. I think the article should have been titled something like " 13 types of traits in men to consider before getting into a LTR" This gives readers the option to read and decide what to do about what they've been informed of. By using the word "avoid" it's like telling the women what to do.

i didn't read it all... so im not sure what all it says.
however i do know that a woman can not avoid every type of man if she still wants to find a man. its either deal with something or become a nun.
i agree with you that it should be titled the other way.

but again, from what little i read, i know there is a disgruntled frustrated person writing it.