No, I just did the same thing you do to me. You get what you give. Behave like an ass to me and I'm a ***** to you...it's really quite simple.( . )( . ) said:
Whatever, bollocks aside you continue to spit mainstream AFC crap advice and I'll continue calling it out if and when I can be assed, nothing personal I just dont like reading junk when I shouldnt have to.Wyldfire said:
Oh for the love of Christ...I don't EVER advise anyone to "supplicate"...I give advice that is more geared for SUCCESSFUL long term relationships. In a LTR you can't be a dink and you have to accept some give and take. Nowhere on this forum have I EVER told anyone to be a doormat, tolerate being mistreated or any such nonsense. Anytime a guy on here posts where a woman is out of line, treating him badly or his situation is obviously hopeless and there is nothing he can do to change that I'm the first one to tell him to jump ship. However...as a woman who can see both sides of the male vs female issues, there are times when I can clearly see where a guy is shooting himself in the foot and how he can get back on the right track...and I share that. You're too damn quick to assume that I have some ulterior motive when I am actually trying to be helpful and offer some insight from a perspective that no one else on this forum can really offer. Whether you care to admit it or not...there are plenty of guys on this site who screw up because they misunderstood something or misread a woman. Up until I started posting here it was a firmly held belief that if a woman ever mentioned another guy she had low interest. Then I explained that when a woman keeps telling a guy that other guys are hitting on her or asking her out she's just trying to demonstrate that she is desirable and wants you to ask her out and you aren't moving fast enough for her. Such a simple thing but so completely overlooked because the guys here keep trying to read the behavior of women using a man's thinking. My purpose here has always been to tell you guys when you've got it all wrong and help you sort it out in terms you can better understand.( . )( . ) said:
I'd say that 90% or better of the single mothers I know are much closer to being like myself or backbreaker's mother than the stereotype of single moms put forth on this forum. Most don't drive a Mercedes or make 100k a year...but they work hard, aren't looking to snag some guy to support her kid/kids and don't have all the emotional issues the members of this site seem to be so convinced they have. Like I said before...in reality, there are very few problems dating a single mother would bring to bear that are exclusive or even more frequently seen with single mothers than other women. It all boils down to those men so against dating single mothers assuming that single mothers are trying to "trick" them into taking care of another man's kid. The reality is, however...it's almost always just in his head for whatever reason. I've only known two single mothers who actually were like that and both of them were slutty gold digging nut jobs who were slutty gold digging nut jobs prior to having kids and would still be slutty gold digging nut jobs even if they didn't have kids. I really don't care who anyone dates...not my business. I'm just really, really sick of so many on here hating on single mothers over assumptions, sterotypes and generalizations that usually don't even apply at all. I mean, really...if you just focus on recognizing REAL problems in ALL women instead of imagined problems with some specific group it wouldn't matter what group a woman fit into...she's be a decent woman who was worth your time.Drum&Bass said:
Wyldfire said:
I know debating with you is productive as talking to a wall but I'll humour you. Nobodies "hating" on you, stop flattering yourself and trying to take on the martyr role, its 90% of the garbage you write that alot of guys find a problem with.Wyldfire said:
Wtf are you talking about, you continually tell everyone here you "think like a man", so fvckin act like it and drop the crazy tangents that have nothing to do with anything said.Wyldfire said:
Bull, AFC advice is still bad advice, you dont all of a sudden morph into a chump when the "relationship" changes gears so dont feed me that nugget of sh!t, who do you think your talking to?Wyldfire said:
Yeah because you alone brought the concept of challenge and a b!tch wanting to be portrayed as desired by other men to her potential partners to the seduction communityWyldfire said:
. Your just a misunderstood pioneer.....fvck me dead woman your easier to read than a tattered porno.( . )( . ) said:I know debating with you is productive as talking to a wall but I'll humour you. Nobodies "hating" on you, stop flattering yourself and trying to take on the martyr role, its 90% of the garbage you write that alot of guys find a problem with.
Wtf are you talking about, you continually tell everyone here you "think like a man", so fvckin act like it and drop the crazy tangents that have nothing to do with anything said.
Bull, AFC advice is still bad advice, you dont all of a sudden morph into a chump when the "relationship" changes gears so dont feed me that nugget of sh!t, who do you think your talking to?
Yeah because you alone brought the concept of challenge and a b!tch wanting to be portrayed as desired by other men to her potential partners to the seduction community
Just shutup, do you honestly think calling you out is fun for us? On the contrary its a monotanous chore to highlight rubbish at a place men shouldnt have to.
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no , thats me:rock:backbreaker said:
Okay...now for the rest of it.backbreaker said:thanks.. I wish this topic would steer back in the original course, because it's an interesting subject for people to get different viewpoints from.
This subject made me think a little today.. I had to admit to myself that I was probably a mistake, not becuase I don't think my mom didn't necessarly want me.. which I don't know.. i mean she was 18, and could have had me because she was smart enough to see that was the only thing that was going to keep my dad "in the house", because my dad loves kids, he has 3 boys, 2 besides me (i am the oldest) and he has married every woman he has a kid by.. my mom was by far the best fit, but that's a different story.. that bridge has been long burned. His next wife was a gambleholic and his current wife is just plain crazy.
What i mean by a mistake is.. my dad is who he is. My dad has phyco issues that need to be addressed.. he is never going to settle down. It isn't and never was about my mom doing anything wrong, and even when he cheated on the other women he was with, it wasn't because they were doing anything wrong.. he has this.. need to like get reassured that he is a successful person and he does so by ****ing as many women as he can.. and he has ****ed quite a bit... like I said in a nother post..I gracefully bow to my dad when it comes to "pulling" women.. but when it comes to mataining relationships, .. i'll pass.
My mom was doomed from the moment she "fell" for my dad.. it was a loosing cause from jump street. Because of that, in that case I can say I am a mistake.. now, I am happy as hell I am here
anyway, steer this convo back in the right direction.. please
I'm not playing "martyr" and no, most guys don't consider 90% of what I write "garbage". YOU are actually one of the few guys on here who have a problem with my posts giving advice. The thing that does bother a few people is the fact that I end up arguing a lot...with you and a couple of others who choose to make personal attacks on me rather than actually debate what I have written. When someone attacks me...I throw it right back at them.( . )( . ) said:
What am I talking about? The fact that you have called me a feminist many times over when I'm actually opposed to virtually all that feminism stands for is reason enough to state that you are going overboard with the whole anti-feminism thing.
I don't give "AFC" advice. I give very good advice that works. You are operating under the assumption that you have to be a complete and total d*ck in order to NOT be AFC...and that's simply not true. The only "AFC" behavior that turns a woman off is being too clingy, needy and rushing things or pretending you only want friendship and have no romantic interest when you actually do and coming off as asexual. There's nothing at all wrong with my advice...the problem is with your perception.
November of 2001...and yes, I was the first person to introduce that subject.Yeah because you alone brought the concept of challenge and a b!tch wanting to be portrayed as desired by other men to her potential partners to the seduction community
"Us"? There is no "us", man boobs...it is yourself and a couple other guys who fancy themselves as men's rights advocates who are more interested in teaching young men to hate women rather than succeed with them. The vast majority of the guys on here don't have a problem with my advice at all and a lot actually PM me to ask specifically for my advice. And no, it's not just "newbies" or "AFCs" who do this.
My mom and I don't talk. We stopped talking late last year. She has resented me ever since I was 16.. it's like something in her head went off and she stopped liking me. I mean we were never like CLOSE CLOSE, but it got really bad when I was 16. She kicked me out the house for starting my own business, never invites me to family get togethers, and then turns around and asks for favors (i.e money) and when I say no, which Is hard for me, but I feel it's only fair considering what she didn't do for me growing up or recently, she gets a temper tantrom like she is a kid.Wyldfire said:
Just wanted to see if I could quote myself...Francisco d'Anconia said:
My guess would be that if she resents anyone, it's your father. And if she feels that way, it might be that you remind her of him. That can bring about a lot of guilt as well. As I mentioned before...teenage boys are usually really rough to raise alone as a single mother. In my case, I'm lucky in that I like a lot of "guy" things. Even before I left my ex husband, it was me who taught my boys to play baseball, basketball, throw a football, put them into sports, karate, took them fishing and the typical "guy" type things. For some single mothers it's really hard to connect with them once their teen sons once those hormones kick in. Of course, teenage boys tend to think they are invincible and are grown men as soon as they sprout some armpit hair and a stray hair on their chin or upper lip. If your mother wasn't really comfortable dealing with you at that age and handling the guy stuff reasonably well it's pretty natural to hit that somewhat detached point. Doesn't mean she doesn't care or doesn't love you, though.backbreaker said:
