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Date with italian chick not happening. Either she's busy with whatever she had ro change our original plans for or isnt interested. 2nd flake. Unfortunate really, she had some firm tits and was a promiscuous girl. RIP. Next.

But I went to the gym and am taking a much needed nap. So I'm cool. Probably get some other things I haven't been able to do in the last few weeks. Maybe some online shopping.

Plans with a plate tomorrow.

Another one coming over the next day. She called today because I havent been reaching out as much. I was busy and also unsure if i should keep seeing her because my interest is waning especially in light of all these other dates. But she's very sexually open and willing to try stuff so.. why not. Let's see what we can do ykno. She now understands that I am not looking for a relationship with her because I told her (I just said I'm too busy rn for that when she called asking what was up).

Drinks with a tinder match the next day..

"Damn I got b!tches.
Damn I got b!tches.
Wifey girlfriend and mistress."
-Kendrick Lamar

Probably need some better OLD pics if I want to pull hotter girls that way. Hmm
 

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It was a model for a fuel cell. Not really coding coding but just using MATLAB.

Yeah I think I remember that from AMS. I was trying to see if it was even worth bringing her back in that case. Today I didn't go for a kiss for whatever reason. I gave her a hug and invited her back because I had time to actually hang out and progress things at my place. She had plans with her friends in 30 minutes so she didn't come and when she said that I was even less inclined to go for the kiss. Because I knew I wasnt going to get any action. I have a feeling she wanted me to kiss her. Oh well.

I'm also not sure that I'm into her like that. We had fun and she's cute but she's not hot. At least to me. She's curvy.. and she trains.. but I dunno. Recently I've been curious if I'm just keeping these girls around because it makes me feel validated and I feel like i need them to stick around until I get a replacement or something. But I need to learn to just let them go. Maybe it's an ego thing like I need to deal the deal and fvck or I need to have x number of girls in my rotation. The girl from yesterday.. probably needs to just be left at that. The girl from today... I'll give another shot. Never been in the situation Im in, which is to have so many options that it's almost overwhelming. I'm just so focused on being able to pull and smash. Maybe I need to reevaluate what my goal is here. Perhaps I need to level up to hotter women. More interesting women that I truly desire.

Hmm... So in order to level up obviously I gotta do a couple things.

Get LMS up.

So what does this mean for me.. I'm a grad student. I don't have a lot of money but I will have a car soon and I have enough cash to do whatever I want at the moment. I dress quite well when I actually have time to put together an outfit. I am still exploring what I like in fashion. Maybe I'll take some pictures of what I wear and post them here sometime.

Today I wore a black tee under a cardigan (pic attached) from a Dutch brand I like with indigo jeans, and Clark's dessert boots bushacre color. Pin rolled the jeans. All black citizen watch. Tom Ford Noir cologne.

My status could use some work i guess. I do know a lot of people but that's mainly from classes or my lab. So my social circle still isn't that great. I have made some really good friends recently and they go out a lot. I just haven't been able to hang with them consistently because dating and school. But I want to... Not just because of their status but they're a good friend of mine. So as far as status... Being a better researcher probably isn't going to help me out all that much but I'm working on that anyways so we'll see. I think I need to be at more high status events if I want to up my status or meet hotter, more interesting women. Hmm... Obviously at my age it's probably just about being at the parties in general. So that's a start.

Looks... Physique pic attached. I'm fine in that department and I will clean up my diet and get some definition since exams are over but I mean.. I'm good. I'm taking accutane which is clearing up my acne but I still have some scars. That will just take time. I have yet to find a haircut that is minimal maintenance and looks great. I think a bald fade with a 1.5 guard on top is good. Idk I think I just need to become more refined. Not entirely sure how to do that yet.

Rambling...
Sometimes I feel like we're at the exact same stage in life dude, we go through like the same stuff lol. I've been thinking the same things.

I'd think it's worth another shot with this girl. It's not the end of the world if you don't Bang/kiss on the first date. Have you read AMS' book? He explains it way better than I could lol.

As for looks? You're way more ripped than me lol. You should be good.

Since we're both in technical fields, the money comes after you graduate. So like you said there's not TOO much you can do about that other than save. Having a car definitely makes things easier, with closing too.

I think Status is the hardest one. I'm just trying to make lots of friends. Roosh actually defines status as "how many people know and like you." Parties are good. Bars are good too.

Sorry if that's not super helpful. But I'm struggling with the same stuff, so that's just kinda my general thoughts on the matter.

It sounds like you're doing well for yourself though.
 

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Sometimes I feel like we're at the exact same stage in life dude, we go through like the same stuff lol. I've been thinking the same things.

I'd think it's worth another shot with this girl. It's not the end of the world if you don't Bang/kiss on the first date. Have you read AMS' book? He explains it way better than I could lol.

As for looks? You're way more ripped than me lol. You should be good.

Since we're both in technical fields, the money comes after you graduate. So like you said there's not TOO much you can do about that other than save. Having a car definitely makes things easier, with closing too.

I think Status is the hardest one. I'm just trying to make lots of friends. Roosh actually defines status as "how many people know and like you." Parties are good. Bars are good too.

Sorry if that's not super helpful. But I'm struggling with the same stuff, so that's just kinda my general thoughts on the matter.

It sounds like you're doing well for yourself though.
No it's a good point. I need to figure out how to be 'that guy'. What I mean by that is how to be authentic self when im around others and especially in social situations. I avoided parties like the plague in undergrad. Because I had a girlfriend the whole time and i didnt drink so I didn't see the point. I already know that I'm a cool dude and have accepted that everyone wont like me. But I think that i havent mastered being myself all the time. I also probably need to go to more parties.

The girl i went out with this morning texted me a little bit ago saying she had a good time and thanks for the coffee and laughs. Maybe not kissing her worked in my favor. Idk im speculating, doesnt matter. But yeah I'll link her again when I'm back from vacation. If I'm still into it.

I'm also thinking how can I surround myself eith high quality women. Go to more talks on campus? Train at a powerlifting gym? Stuff like that... Idk I'll sleep on it.
 

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No it's a good point. I need to figure out how to be 'that guy'. What I mean by that is how to be authentic self when im around others and especially in social situations. I avoided parties like the plague in undergrad. Because I had a girlfriend the whole time and i didnt drink so I didn't see the point. I already know that I'm a cool dude and have accepted that everyone wont like me. But I think that i havent mastered being myself all the time. I also probably need to go to more parties.

The girl i went out with this morning texted me a little bit ago saying she had a good time and thanks for the coffee and laughs. Maybe not kissing her worked in my favor. Idk im speculating, doesnt matter. But yeah I'll link her again when I'm back from vacation. If I'm still into it.

I'm also thinking how can I surround myself eith high quality women. Go to more talks on campus? Train at a powerlifting gym? Stuff like that... Idk I'll sleep on it.
Well if she texted you, that's already good since she's initiating.

I agree. Im working on that too. "Be yourself" is actually great advice in the context in terms of being the YOU guy. Still gotta Self Improve, though. It's a nice little balance.

That's the hard part haha. For me... My plan is to just build up my social circle and go to bars, let it happen that way. Be proactive. College is like a mix of Cold Approach and Social Circle Game. So I may raise my SMV and lean harder towards the Cold Approach part lol.
 

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Went for drinks tonight with a tinder match.

Blonde. Big tits. Skinny but not skeletor otherwise.

The date was fine. Joking. Talking. Tbh sometimes it's hard to tell if a girl is into you or not. I mean i had my hand on her leg but she didnt do anything that made me think she liked it. So I shot my shot anyways and invited her back.

Got back to my place, played some cards. Then I made my move. When I got back on the bed I was on the prowl. Crawled straight to her while looking in her eyes and went for the kiss. It was on like donkey Kong from there. She was instantly biting my lip.

After a while she says she can't have sex. I said that's fine we can do other things. She is on her period. But as she's giving me head and we do other things she seems frustrated. So I was teasing her about how she wanted to get fvcked and ultimately told her we'll just put a towel down and get busy. We proceeded to do just that.

Blew. Her. Back. Out. Im always surprised by how much girls like being spanked or lightly choked. Those things are like the switch for them to just go into slut mode.

Anyways, I night need some Viagra for tomorrow lol. My sleep schedule has been off and tomorrow will be the 3rd day of sex (my true love gave to meee) and I told this girl she was gonna get it. Plus I'm curious about Viagra. Why not.
 

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Tinder date FTW \o/
 

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Update on [7].

We've been banging over the last month. I didn't hit her up last week and canceled the week before because I was stressed with finals. We did talk once when she texted me during that week and a half though... Whatever.

She calls me Saturday morning and was like what's going on, was i ghosting her? Had to call her back because I was omw to a date. Call her back, I explain that I was just busy with finals and was planning to see when she was available when I got a chance that weekend. I also explained that I'm not looking for a relationship. She says she wishes i said that earlier but thats fine.

Anyways, we make plans for tonight for her to come over and we make dinner. And for me to blow her back out.

So anyways my day has been kinda hectic. Running around doing stuff for research. I sidnt have time to go to the store and asked her to pick the stuff up for dinner. I was feeling tired af so I went to CVS to get some Viagra. There wasn't any, so I got Extenze (has anyone used this before? It's cheap as fvck and has natural ingredients... Does it work?)

My phone was dying while I was out, which she knew. When i got back I started charging it but by the time i got it on I see texts from her saying "Im here..." ... 5 mins later: "If you don't come out soon I'm leaving" from 20 mins ago. Oops. I text her I'm coming down. She said she left.

I call her a few minutes later with the intent of saying 'my bad' but not trying to get her back or anything. I texted it instead. No response but I'm not expecting one. I'm expecting the next text to be that she's done with this or me reaching out to say that I don't have the bandwidth to make her a priority right now. For a while Ive been feeling on the fence about whether to continue seeing her. She isnt my type and because of this its hard to get it up sometimes. Once it's up and we're fvcking its fine but like.. I'm always worried (probably another reason it wont get up) that it wont get up. Maybe its from masturbating. This time it probably would have been from fvcking two days in a row. Idk I'm still trynna figure out my body ykno.

Anyways, I'm gonna give her some time to cool off, break things off if she wants and if I don't hear from her in a few days then I'll do it.

I guess it could've been fun to keep banging. She was very open sexually and willing to try things. But whatevs ykno... There will be others.

I think I should have broken things off a while ago when I first started to feel uncertain about it. I've never been in this situation though so maybe that's why I hesitated. And perhaps there was a bit of
Scarcity mindset there that 'oh man I'm gonna lose 1 out of 2 plates'. I was going to think about it over the winter break. But at this moment idc. I've got other prospects and 1... 2 if you count the tinder girl... Plate.

So to me this has been a lesson in being true to yourself and honest with others. I should've let it go when I first felt it instead of being fearful (I think?) of losing sex.

Positives of the situation: I learned something. I have gained my night back and can get this workout in and get back on schedule with training. 340 lbs squats for 5x5 we outchea. Gonna take a nap, smash an energy drink and get it done. And i can run some errands Ive been meaning to do before I leave town tomorrow. #winning
 

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Viagra at 23yo? WTF!
Im 53 and never used it.... still bang like a 17yo
 

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Viagra at 23yo? WTF!
Im 53 and never used it.... still bang like a 17yo
Iono man. I think I'm in my head ykno. It is kinda weird. But it's happened a couple times where I couldn't get it up or it wouldn't stay up. Not really sure why. I can only guess. Plus the girls it happened with arent exactly stunners/freaks so there's that.

It's usually after putting the condom on that it goes soft. Probably need to sleep more. Think about it less. And stop jerking it so much idk.

"Im just bein' honest" - Future
 

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New Strategy

New to me anyways. So I've recently just been trying to get a rotation and bang any girl I was slightly interested in. That's not gonna work anymore. I touched on this a little bit earlier.

There are a couple reasons for this.

1. School is time consuming and difficult. It's time for me to rise out of the prison like Batman in the Dark Knight Rises. No holding back, leaping for success like my life depends on it. And in this mode, I can't be entertaining more than 2 girls. And I need girls who could damn near be my girlfriend in my rotation. I only want to be surrounded by people that inspire and support me and that I can do the same for. So the quality of my plates will have to go up. And time will be limited asf so we gotta cut down big time.

2. It's not even fun fvcking all these girls anymore. Maybe that's because they're just.. okay and not girls I genuinely desire. I mean I'm still attracted to them but obviously from the posts above I need hotter chicks. Curvy. Full lips. Sexy as hell. But intelligent. A rarer breed certainly but hey.. worth it. Im guessing anyways, maybe the grass isn't greener on the other side. We shall see, that's what the journey is about.

Changes:

There have been times where I felt like I should be screening the girl harder. Like she's not that interesting but I still hit it and try to add her to the rotation. I'll aim to limit letting these girls make it into my bed to night out. She has to excite me (qualities discussed above) to make it into my rotation.

Then the question is where will I find such women. Well, while Tinder is expedient, I have yet to meet a plate on tinder after about 30 matches (that I kept) over 4 months. This may be because they stopped responding or i just didn't match with them. Tinder is low investment so I'll start using it again soon and swipe only on profiles that I'm interested in from their pics. I used to just rapid tap that 100 and move on to the next thing. But tinder isn't gonna be the breadwinner so I need to start putting myself in situations where I can meet more people outside of my normal routine. I've had success in the gym. But too many pulls in the gym is dangerous especially if the same crowd is always there. However, I'm considering getting a membership at a local powerlifting gym because 1. There's less annoying things going on (people deadlifting at squat racks) and 2. There will be people who are clearly interested in what I'm interested in, women included. Brain blast: I'll try to spend an hour or so at least 3 days out of the week doing some low-focus task in another part of campus. Like med school library or art library. Easy way to increase opportunities to meet women. I am looking to get back into recreational sports, I'm not sure how this would help though unless there's like ex women college players because the difference in competition is just so high for men and women. Planning to go to more parties when school starts back up with the boys.

I also gotta level up myself. It's time for a wardrobe update. As I've continued my journey in style I've opted for more comfortable outfits. Less button downs, more nice fitting tshirts with a nice layer thrown over. So I'll be doing some online shopping, aiming to get lightly used things to save some money, over the next few weeks. Currently trying to buy some Adidas terrex gtx hiking boots as my rainy day shoes. They're fresh, comfortable and weatherproof. I'll find something more dressed up as well and probably a knee-length mac coat or similar for dressy days. Black umbrella with a wood handle. Ykno classy sh!t. I will try updating my accessory game as well and commit to figuring out how to cut my hair (faded) to save money and keep it fresh. Maybe I'll try a simple gold chain, my best friend be killin' it when I see em on him. New watches are in order. I'm kinda tired of my clothes anyways so it's for me mainly and the ladies will reap the benefits lol.

I'm going to really push myself to 'be myself' or rather unapologetically be my unfiltered self in interactions with strangers. My thoughts on this aren't very well developed but perhaps I'll have some soon. I think switching to screening for these high quality women will help with this in and of itself. I mean I'm pretty comfortable being myself already but it's because I know I've got girls that will fvck me. To reach the next level I gotta dig deeper and do it without any external motivation.
 

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Swimming in it

Well.. I have what many of us aspire to have when we first join this site. A rotation, or maybe even a harem, if you will. This weekend I had sex Friday, Saturday and tonight all with different women. And I have girls that I've been on dates with before that are kind of in limbo bc there's only so much time in the day. Next weekend I'm going on dates with at least one new girl. Hotter. More interesting. And potentially one girl from the 15 matches on various OLD apps, all 7+. Haven't messaged them yet though.

Its a bit exhausting. I need to be a bit more selective as I said before. The girl I saw on Saturday is cool but idk she's doesn't have a curvy body like I like it so... Maybe she gets cut. On one hand I feel like the man. But on the other hand I just want to do my research and improve myself and sometimes all this fvckin' takes away from that. Partially because I'm a man of my craft and best believe if a chick is in my bed she's either having an orgasm or I'ma try to make it happen. Keeps em coming back fellas, plus, you might enjoy it too.

Anyways... I just wanted to say having a bunch of women isn't all it's cracked up to be. Especially in the scenario that you have goals and need to be on your grind. Quality over quantity.

The problem is that while I think that now.. something in me still just wants to catch bodies. I'm not sure why. I say I want quality but I find myself with quantity. I'm not sure how exactly to force this internal shift I'm seeking...

I realize I'm repeating myself a bit here. Maybe that's a good thing. If I keep coming to the realization.. perhaps it'll become cemented.
 
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[12] - sheesh, if only...

So I'm in the gym (duh) and I'm changing the rack set up from squats to bench press. I hang the clip on the rack while I'm taking the weight off. This chick swoops over and instantly snags it. So I go over, tell her I was still using it. But I'll help her look for another one. Because I'm a nice guy and because I'm interested in her friend.

Friend is about 5'8''. This? Maybe Armenian or something that I can't put my finger on? Curvy. Fit. Total snack. HB 8.5.. anyways friend comes over to return the clip but I already got one. Later I caught them and asked their names so I didn't have to call them the clip teives anymore. Convo was fine. I was calm but I talked mainly to the friends I want interested in. Tried to incorporate the other girl as much as possible. Said nice to meet you and went or separate ways.

I had to do some lunges (3x20/leg FML) and guess who was also lunging. Clip theives. Asked if I could 'join'. Chatted. Now that I'm thinking about it.. the friend I wasn't interested in seemed interested. She was asking me questions. But fvck all dat she ain't had no booty.

Got a moment alone with the target so I isolated and went for the kill lol. Asked where she's from. Told her I just moved here. Asked her what the 'hole in the wall things to do are'. Blah blah Dave and Buster's. I asked her if she's been to this cool arcade near her. She's never heard of it. I say we should go. She laughs the question off and keeps talking. I said it again 'lemme get you number next week and we'll go'. I'm kinda proud of the fact that I said it smoothly, leaning on this machine casually and looking into her eyes. Because she was hot. Her friend walked by right as I said it and previously I've had trouble with talking to girls with friends around.

She had a boyfriend. So she says. Maybe friend told her she thought I was cute and so she said that. At any rate... Next?
 

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It was a model for a fuel cell. Not really coding coding but just using MATLAB.

Yeah I think I remember that from AMS. I was trying to see if it was even worth bringing her back in that case. Today I didn't go for a kiss for whatever reason. I gave her a hug and invited her back because I had time to actually hang out and progress things at my place. She had plans with her friends in 30 minutes so she didn't come and when she said that I was even less inclined to go for the kiss. Because I knew I wasnt going to get any action. I have a feeling she wanted me to kiss her. Oh well.

I'm also not sure that I'm into her like that. We had fun and she's cute but she's not hot. At least to me. She's curvy.. and she trains.. but I dunno. Recently I've been curious if I'm just keeping these girls around because it makes me feel validated and I feel like i need them to stick around until I get a replacement or something. But I need to learn to just let them go. Maybe it's an ego thing like I need to deal the deal and fvck or I need to have x number of girls in my rotation. The girl from yesterday.. probably needs to just be left at that. The girl from today... I'll give another shot. Never been in the situation Im in, which is to have so many options that it's almost overwhelming. I'm just so focused on being able to pull and smash. Maybe I need to reevaluate what my goal is here. Perhaps I need to level up to hotter women. More interesting women that I truly desire.

Hmm... So in order to level up obviously I gotta do a couple things.

Get LMS up.

So what does this mean for me.. I'm a grad student. I don't have a lot of money but I will have a car soon and I have enough cash to do whatever I want at the moment. I dress quite well when I actually have time to put together an outfit. I am still exploring what I like in fashion. Maybe I'll take some pictures of what I wear and post them here sometime.

Today I wore a black tee under a cardigan (pic attached) from a Dutch brand I like with indigo jeans, and Clark's dessert boots bushacre color. Pin rolled the jeans. All black citizen watch. Tom Ford Noir cologne.

My status could use some work i guess. I do know a lot of people but that's mainly from classes or my lab. So my social circle still isn't that great. I have made some really good friends recently and they go out a lot. I just haven't been able to hang with them consistently because dating and school. But I want to... Not just because of their status but they're a good friend of mine. So as far as status... Being a better researcher probably isn't going to help me out all that much but I'm working on that anyways so we'll see. I think I need to be at more high status events if I want to up my status or meet hotter, more interesting women. Hmm... Obviously at my age it's probably just about being at the parties in general. So that's a start.

Looks... Physique pic attached. I'm fine in that department and I will clean up my diet and get some definition since exams are over but I mean.. I'm good. I'm taking accutane which is clearing up my acne but I still have some scars. That will just take time. I have yet to find a haircut that is minimal maintenance and looks great. I think a bald fade with a 1.5 guard on top is good. Idk I think I just need to become more refined. Not entirely sure how to do that yet.

Rambling...
This guy has ZERO looks, in fact he's ugly but women find him attractive - very manly.


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This guy has ZERO looks, in fact he's ugly but women find him attractive - very manly.


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Mick Jagger is an interesting looking character.

[13] - The Italian

Seen this girl around the gym a couple times. Never crossed paths. Had to do some pull ups after I was working on back lever and the only spot was next to her doing some cable whatevers. Asked if she minded if I did pull ups there (it was close quarters.. one of these things). She say nah. I do pull up. After 2 sets I asked her what her name was. She told me a little about herself.. but it was obvious she just wanted to keep working out. So I just said nice to meet you and went on about my business. No need to force the situation, I'll see her in the gym eventually and if there's an opportunity to continue the conversation.. we shall. But she didn't seem interested so I'm not pressed. We need interest nowadays. Time is too valuable. Cute accent though.
 

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Iono man. I think I'm in my head ykno. It is kinda weird. But it's happened a couple times where I couldn't get it up or it wouldn't stay up. Not really sure why. I can only guess. Plus the girls it happened with arent exactly stunners/freaks so there's that.

It's usually after putting the condom on that it goes soft. Probably need to sleep more. Think about it less. And stop jerking it so much idk.

"Im just bein' honest" - Future
Re-discovered this looking for an old post... In case anyone ever reads it and wants to know how things evolved:

It was indeed the fact that I was in my head. Fvcking like a champ these days.

I was putting a lot of pressure on myself to perform back then. I guess I still do it but naturally I'm becoming more comfortable with my gf.
 

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Good for you going out there and putting that work in. Experience is key. If you want to chat, pm me. I'd love to exchange info, tips, experiences, I got hundreds of them haha
 
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