1 FROM THE ARCHIVES.....tom Leykis

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LEYKIS 101-WOMEN PHILOSOPHY-his radio show is based out of L.A.

 NEVER, ever date a single mother
 Follow the "three strikes and your out" rule. Which means if she hasn't put out in the first three dates, dump the *****.
 Never pick up your phone Friday through Sunday. Screen all of your phone calls
 No cuddling after sex.
 Always wear a condom. Even if she is on birth control. No exceptions
 Never spend more than $40 on a date, if she pays, that’s even better. Zero is optimal.
 Pick out the women with the lowest self esteem, the lower the better. Beautiful women normally have a very low self esteem.
 Get in touch with your "inner A-hole". Women are drawn to A-holes. If you’re a nice guy, you won't get laid. She'll categorize you as her "friend".
 Women are attention *****s and will do almost anything to get it. So keep that in mind when you see some woman dressed to kill
 Never have coffee or lunch with a woman unless you want to be "friends".
 women have no male friends. Every male a woman calls a friend wants to bang the living f*** out of her.
 Stay away from any women who says the words "All my friends are guys". That is trouble and should be avoided at all costs
 If the woman you are dating stops putting out, Dump her
 Men, the reason why you are friends with a woman with the exception of having a past relationship with her...is that she doesn't find you attractive. The truth hurts. Move on
 Men, the more confidence you show the better chances you have of getting the girl. Women smell a wussy a mile away and they can also smell confidence. Women are attracted to confidence almost more than anything else
 Don't ever tell a woman you love her.
 If your girlfriend is spending a lot of time with a "friend" of the opposite sex, dump her.
 Do not get a girlfriend until you are at least 25 years of age
 Do not buy her flowers until the second year you are married
 Don't do anything in the beginning of the relationship you wouldn't normally do later in the relationship. Because her expectations of anything you do for her will cause you problems later
 Never hold her purse.
 Always become unavailable during the holidays. Never pick up the phone close to holiday seasons. Especially Valentine's Day or Thanksgiving
 Do not go to a concert with a woman if she invites you. Especially if she has backstage passes or has a friend in the band she is going to see. It just means she is there to see and have sex with the other guy. She probably just used you for the ride there
 Never buy a woman a drink. It's just another way of a woman getting something she wants for free while the man thinks she's interested in him (applies outside of relationships)
 Eat before you go out on a date. Purpose is that a woman normally wouldn't be caught dead eating more than her date. So this results in a lower costing date by the end of the evening. You tell her that you are trying to eat healthy
 Do not order a bottle of wine. And the reason you don't when she asks is because you want to make sure you get her home safely. And to ensure this to the best of your ability, you don't want to drink any alcohol.
 If your date picks up their cell phone, silently get up and drive off without them. If they wouldn't give you the respect to pay attention to you on the date, you don't give them the respect of driving them home
 Keep a bottle of hot sauce Every place you have sex (Bathroom, bedroom etc.) After you use the condom, put a few drops into the used condom and throw it away. This results in the "Burning of the cooch" if she tries to actually use the contents.
 

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COD said:
 Eat before you go out on a date. Purpose is that a woman normally wouldn't be caught dead eating more than her date. So this results in a lower costing date by the end of the evening. You tell her that you are trying to eat healthy
:crackup: :crackup: :up: :up:

Hahahha niceeeeee
 

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Tom Leykis is not a Don Juan. His points are simply telling you how to be an *******. He is probably quite appealing to the people who want to call themselves players or pimps or whatever. But ultimately, his "advice" just simply isn't on par with what the likes of Pook says.

I could go on and rubbish just about every one of his points, but I'm not going to waste my time. Read Pook, learn what he has said - and I mean actually understand it, understand the message he is promoting not just simply "do this do that" - then you'll see why most of this Tom Leykis crap is just that - crap.
 

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Use whatever works for you I say.

If you like the Tom Leykis method use that.

If you like the Pook method use that.

Neither guy is more right than the other.

This DJ/PUA/Player stuff is not and will never be an exact science so you have to use whatever methods you think will work well with your unique personality.
 

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Ideally, one would read over all the materials he can get his hands on, and create his own method - the one that works best for him and comes off most naturally.

What I dislike most about the Tom Leykis stuff is that its mainly "do nots" rather than "dos". Hardly positive! It also seems to be a large list of rules which need to be followed to the tee, rather than how to create a successful mindset and attitude, which allows for some erring of the guidelines.
 

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What a bunch of stupid rules. This guy obviously has serious issues.
 

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I don't mind Leykis but the dude comes off as a woman hater. I think he's been burned one to many times and now lumps all women into his hate catagory. Just about every single rule listed is complete garbage.
 

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The problem is, as I've already said, is that they are just a set of rules to blindly follow rather than an actual mindset to adopt. If you know what you're doing - and to know what you're doing you need a far deeper understanding than Leykis offers in his rules - you make your own rules and can repeatedly break Leykis's ones or in fact just about any PUA's ones.
 

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"Stay away from any women who says the words "All my friends are guys". That is trouble and should be avoided at all costs "

..........can someone explain this one????? I'm just curious.
 

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Bigtrucker most women who have all guy friends and barely any female friends are suffering from Histrionic or Borderline Personality Disorder.

These type of women are referred to as Attention Wh0res here and are to be avoided at all costs.

The mental illnesses they suffer from cause them to mirror your best qualities back at you.

You get into the illusion that you've fallen for the most perfect woman on the planet when in reality you only fell in love with yourself through her mirroring of your best qualities.

They do not connect with anyone on an emotional level due to a deep fear of abandonment and no amount of love and support or friendship can help them recover or make them trust you to really let you love them. They need a professional therapists help and even then recovery is not 100% guaranteed for all of them.

They have an air of sexuality about them where they just seem to ooze sex appeal unlike any other woman and they crave attention from everyone in a room to feel alive.

They are a great big ball of emotional pain and torment to any person that gets involved with them unawares to what he is dealing with.

Do a search on BPD and HPD here using the forums search feature to learn more.

And also watch the ending of the Godfather III where Michael Corleone is screaming at his daughter's death. Thats the kind of pain these women put men through. They get you so in love with them that you are making wedding plans and the day on or before the wedding they dissapear from your life and are out with their new fantasy soulmate who everyone else in the world views as a loser but because of their mental illness craving the fantasy perfect man anyone can randomly become who they put their fantasy on.

They don't connect but rather have a daydream relationship with every man they are with which makes it easy for them to wake up out of the dream and leave a man after an intense involvement with no explanation.

Then they go and dream with someone else.

This causes catastrophic pain to their victims.
 

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Many of you older guys have a major problem with Leykis.

are any of you married? Have kids?

Leykis's methods are gold, and work.
 

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Rhoto said:
Many of you older guys have a major problem with Leykis.

are any of you married? Have kids?

Leykis's methods are gold, and work.

His stuff definately works, there's no doubt about that. Its that it works on low quality women. A woman with any ounce of self respect would laugh at you. That's the problem with Leykis. some of his rules though do apply to all women.
 

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He has his points. Don't date single mothers, always use protection,but everything else is like wtf? No cuddling? I mean, granted, you should stay away from fcked up chicks who are going to destroy your soul, but what ever happened to finding the right partner/wife for marriage?
 

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Tom correctly points out that there is no benefits for a man to be married.

Marriage is for women.

And when you start a marriage its basically starting up an unstable corporation where you turn over all your financial resources to your marriage partner.

Then he also points out that the marriage is just a legal document, a piece of paper and if you love someone just keep seeing them, there is no good reason at all for men to get married in this day and age.

Listen to Tom's free podcast radio show if you guys want up to date teachings from the professor.

The rules of his you find on websites are like from ten freakin years ago.
 

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What about starting a family? Stability,security? Love? Or are these old fashioned concepts? What about not turning over all financial resources?
 

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Prenups are not always air tight which Tom regularly points out on his show so you and your sweety can agree forever and ever that she won't try to rob you blind when its over but of course thats what every woman says in the beginning loving stage of a relationship.

And what about those things?

Marriage doesn't guarantee stability, security or love.

Its just a fvckin piece of paper dude.

If it guaranteed all those things there would be no divorce.
 

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True. Am i being delusional? I know they talk about all "the warning signs" from chicks, but is it possible to find one that doesn't have all that? Plus, one thing that's been getting to me is this whole non alpha thing. That feeling of lack of power/dominance. How do you get it? What if you dont have it? Is it still possible to attract someone? In my mind I am this guy I want to be, but then reality kind of knocks that out. I mean, I can go out to a bar, but I am that guy,alone, drinking. That happened last night. Friday night was,well, ill talk about it later.
 

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Well Tom does point out that there are exceptions to every rule so you could win the lottery ie meet some chick that you could marry and be happy together for the rest of your life with but yeah he stresses the point what are the odds of that in this day and age this sex in the city female culture?

Not high for sure.

Todays culture basically promotes hooking up and being a social chameleon over ever settling down.

As for the alpha thing keep believing in yourself dude.

I have some buddies that were born naturals at this and they have bad nights like you did as well.

Dry spells happen to everyone but the problem is with us guys who started life and grew up as AFC's well we tend to lose our confidence when we have a bad night whereas naturals just say it was a bad night lol.

See they never stop believing in themselves because confidence and all that good naturals type of mindset is what they are.

We have to work at it a bit more unfortunately.
 
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