Danger said:
That damage is, but I hardly see why we need anti-white racism today as a result. Nor do I see that as a good reason for black men to shun getting a college degree. Let's be honest, you can't help people who won't help themselves.
I agree and I'm not attempting to justify anti-white racism. I hate ALL racism regardless of the source. Racist minorities are just as ignorant as white ones.
Just like with Hispanic culture.. black culture is not big on education. Black culture is very similar to redneck culture. Almost exactly the same to be honest.
I've been blaming
culture since we started this conversation bro. :trouble:
Nobody said it was a cake-walk. It certainly isn't a cake-walk for whites either. And whites certainly shouldn't be held down to help people who refuse to help themselves (again, college graduation rates and self-inhibitions about getting an education by being "too white").
Never said whites should be "held down". NO ONE should be held down based on race. That's the point.
Asking for clarification on what "problem" you are referring to creates white privilege? Seriously??? That's just bull$hit. There are many problems at play here, each with a different solution.
I agree there are many problems at play. What I'm referring to is
the perception that whites are smarter, harder working and higher class than blacks and Hispanics. Whites have automatic
"social status" that opens doors for them in many situations where a black or hispanic would get the same door slammed in their face.. even if they are just as smart, hard working and classy.
And I have experienced many times the "you have it made because you are white" mentality. My point is, don't go blaming whites for knowing the statistics and being wary. If more blacks would just stand up to the thugs and turn them in, a lot of the problem would start going away. But instead the communities don't trust the police and they then just harbor the criminals amongst you.
This is a complex problem. On one side you have black thugs being black thugs. On the other side.. you have racist police officers who target minorities based on
"statistics". While this makes sense..
it also creates mistrust of police officers from people who are INNOCENT and not doing anything. They believe the police are NOT on their side because they are black/hispanic.
They feel targeted and harassed.
I've been followed while shopping in stores before. Being treated like crap because people who
"look like you" don't know how to act makes you feel like a second class citizen. And there is little you can do about that knee-jerk perception people have.
Some black and Hispanic people suffer from paranoia about racism. They think every white person is a possible racist and every time a white person is rude or mean to them they assume its because they're black/Hispanic. Some of my family members are like this. The problem this creates is a lack of ambition. They believe:
why even try when I will just get marginalized.
But the only point I'm making is the
"good people" should not have to suffer because of the images the bad people create.
I agree with elimination racial competition, so I suppose that means you want to get rid of all quotas and such?
Only if the knee-jerk perception of blacks and Hispanics won't be the default:
They are lazy, uneducated, low IQ, criminals.
We know how corrupt society is. Everyone will just hire the people who
look like them because its more "comfortable". Minorities will get marginalized and shut out when they don't deserve it. Then the entire civil rights movement will happen all over again.
The entire reason blacks are the "underclass" is because of the marginalization that occurred when the slaves were freed (and still occurs today, but to a lesser degree).
I'm all for getting rid of quotas if that means basic unfairness and racism in hiring goes away with it (but we know that won't happen).
Depends on what you mean by "white culture". White culture is basically about getting an education and being responsible. (although honestly many whites are failing at that these days).
Whites are oppressed by minority policies (aka diversity). Businesses simply want the best performers, and education and dressing well are leading indicators to that, as opposed to wearing baggy jeans and speaking like a thug.
I really don't see this "white oppression" you speak of. Most successful people in the U.S. are still WHITE. Most CEO's are WHITE. Most doctors are WHITE. For an
"oppressed" group.. whites are doing pretty damn good. :crackup:
When a minority fails in life.. its because they are
"lazy, low IQ, thugs". If they claim
"oppression" they are playing the
"race card". But now a white person can fail in life and blame oppression for it?
Come on now..
This just does back to my earlier post when I said, many white people believe America is theirs and they should be
first in line for all the benefits of living here. Any minority doing better than a white is never given credit for actually being smart and competent and even
*gasp* just plain BETTER.
When blacks dominate sports and music.. no one says "affirmative action and white oppression". NOPE.. its only when they get a nice office job. Interesting......
All of the blacks I work with are educated and very well spoken. I don't consider that white culture as much as I consider it the effects of an education.
Guess what? Everyone can't afford a good education bro.
Sure, but that isn't a racial tone and those rednecks don't have the fallback of "minority" as a result. But blacks oppressing blacks and keeping themselves from studying, well, they still have the minority "out" card they can play.
And? I've never understood the jealousy behind
"the race card". Its only one of
many cards people play.
Most people will blame everyone and everything for their problems in life except themselves. Women blame gender, minorities blame racism, whites blame minorities, the poor blame the Government, the rich blame the poor, etc.
Its just a faggot cry-fest . People need to stop b!tching and go get what they want.
What doors are you speaking of?
Jobs? Living arrangements? Don't play dumb
Danger. Just like how a hot blond can blow a hiring manager to get a job.. often times when all things are equal.. people prefer the white or Asian person because of
perceptions.
Look at it this way:
More hot blonds can blow a guy to get a job than hot black women can. Make sense?
Of course there is corruption and bias. But all I see right now is policy bias towards hiring minorities. The bias I see against minorities is due to the success that thugs have in shaming those who want to do well.
To put it bluntly, if people want to succeed like whites, they have to follow the same road and work like whites. And not allow those bad crabs to pull them back down to the bottom of the barrel.
Its not that simple. Again..
if 100% of people give their full effort and work hard.. some will rise to the top and some will fall to the bottom. Its like you totally missed that sentence.
EVERYONE CAN'T SUCCEED AT THE SAME TIME. What part of that do you
not get?
It's actually very similar to redneck whites as you mentioned. I grew up in a very poor rural area with tons of rednecks. And yes, I too had to resist the pull to just hang out, smoke pot and stop being such a "dork" for studying.
Yes.. some people are strong enough to ignore the bad influences and others are not. But lets not pretend that
"hard work" alone is the ONLY reason people succeed.
To believe that is to be very naive.
The difference being, when whites study for the future they are called dorks by their fellow white rednecks. When blacks study for the future, they are called out for being "too white" by those who have no future.
Just my experience and opinion.
True. Just like when white people listen to rap, talk slang and wear thug clothing they are called "Wiggers" which is basically "white n*gger". So it goes both ways.