“Whitey” is “privlidged”. LMFAO!

[PlayHer Man]

We would ask them because they were a victim of being over-run, and my point being there are hardly any left around to ask.

I know that was your point. That's why I asked you what major problem the world is facing because we lost a "race".

I never called it a crime. And I am ok with tolerance for immigration if it is shared on all levels. As it stands now, my race faces the same fate as the Native Americans because we are the only ones being "forced" to integrate.

That was the point of the post I shared, if only one race plays by the "rules", that race then disappears.

Worrying about your culture disappearing. That's a legit concern. Worrying about your race getting wiped out though violance and slaughter. That's a legit concern.

Worrying about your racing "fading away" through inter-mixing.. NOT A LEGIT CONCERN.

Why not? Because it harms no one. WHO CARES? Why is that a problem exactly? Why do we NEED any one race so bad?

Choose ANY race in the world to "phase out" and I will care just as little as the white race. Sorry.. just don't give a sh!t and don't see why anyone should.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Also keep in mind, that in general, bums generally don't bother migrating. If someone is living in columbia and wants to come here, it's either because they want to sale drugs or they want a better life for them or their children.

Beg to differ.

The quality of immigrants has changed drastically in the past few decades. While they "want a better quality of life" than what they've got, how they get it is what's causing the problems.

Back in the day, when we didn't have such a huge welfare state, (where such a HUGE percentage of people receive FAR MORE from the government than they pay in taxes) people came to the U.S. because it was the "Land of Opportunity."

They knew if they worked hard, they'd make money.

Not so any more. Means testing for immigration is a thing of the distant past. Now people come here SPECIFICALLY for the government benefits.

(There's even something called "birth tourism." Mothers come here JUST TO HAVE THEIR BABIES so when their kids grow up, they'll get the "citizen rate" when they attend uni, and not have to pay the high fees that non-citizens have to pay)

And one of the primary deciders of who gets in, and who doesn't is whether or not they've already got family here. Whether or not that family is a net user of government largess is not taken into consideration. To do so would be racist, since most immigrants are from non-white countries.

The days of "cherry picking" immigrants is long, long gone.

The REAL qualification of whether or not somebody can immigrate is if they'll likely vote Democrat.

Which is precisely why the Republicans are jumping on "immigration reform" bandwagon. They wanna get some of them votes.

Not to turn this into a political thread, but plenty of conservatives feel that all the republicans need to do is present themselves as the "white party" representing "white values" and they'd be a shoe-in for congress and president.

However, in congruence with the OP's assertion, they are terrified of doing this due to the shellacking they'd take in the media.

So they'll try to "out-democrat" the democrats, by attracting as many immigrants as they can.

Which means more folks on the receiving end of government mandated transfer payments, and further doom for the country.

Which should make for an interesting collapse, to say the least. Plenty of different "tribes," (most of them armed) all reverting to tribal behavior, as folks tend to do when economic times get tough.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I don't face a major problem, but I'm sure the Native Americans would disagree, seeing as they were the one's practically wiped out.

Perspective, it's your friend.

Getting wiped out is not the same as fading away through gene mixing.

Not a legit concern to you, but it is to me.

Those are called value systems. Yours are different than mine. So what?

Why is it a legit concern to you? Why is it so important for every race to avoid mixing? Please explain without bringing up culture (which I already agree with you on).

Then why are you in this thread? If your values differ than there is no reason for you to be here pissing on the values of others. That's pretty rude actually.

Now you're sounding butthurt. Can't tolerate someone with a different opinion?

Seems like you have issues with tolerance across the board. Everyone must be a cookie cutter version of Danger huh?

Come on man... :crackup:

 

[Naughty Ninja]

From the replies in this thread I'm thinking some of you listen to Jared Taylor.

 

[Lexington]

This whole idea of "loyalty to one's race" is quite silly. As BB pointed out, some of the most proud places in the world are the most backward. I have more in common with a hard working, ambitious, intellectually curious Nigerian Muslim than I do with a lazy, ignorant, obese white Christian.

Also blaming feminism, the media, liberals etc. for the plight of white men is quite silly. Yes, there is a lot of bullsh*t being peddled out there. But those who seek the truth will find some version of it. If it is true that these people are ruining America, what the hell is anyone doing about it?

If these deluded, low IQ, completely wrong individuals are successfully promoting their ideas, then where is the counter response from people who have their heads screwed on straight? It seems to me that everyone these days is competing to be the viewed as the victim....

 

[user43770]

If these deluded, low IQ, completely wrong individuals are successfully promoting their ideas, then where is the counter response from people who have their heads screwed on straight?

The growing welfare state is most certainly going to knock America down a notch. It brought down Rome and Great Britain before us.

The evidence is there, you just can't talk about it without being called heartless or racist. Think of the children!

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

From the replies in this thread I'm thinking some of you listen to Jared Taylor.

or perhaps some solid, fact based economic research:

A Farewell to Alms - A Brief Economic History of the World

The Great Fiction: Property, Economy, Society and the Politics of Decline

Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?

 

[Down Low]

I think some of you guys are well meaning, but somewhat misstate the facts.

For a couple hundred years, millions of Celts emigrated under duress to America. Their culture was being ruthlessly exterminated under the English. However, it's plain to all that the Celts outbred the original blond/blue protoeuropeans. The Celts populated most of the region that we identify as Cold War-era Western Europe, while the closely-related Slavs did the same in the East. How odd that Germanic Saxon, then Anglo, culture came to dominate Britain, while the population was majority Celtic.

It's disheartening that after a thousand years of fighting to hang on as a viable culture, German and Nordic societies are wholesale grovelling and faggotting themselves to crude and ungrateful Muslim refugees. Britain is behaving little different. I don't want to see Northern European lines die out -- but especially not in this way.

 

[PlayHer Man]

When you mix 90% water and 10% tea, what do you get? Water.
When you mix 90% race one and 10% race two, what do you get? Race one.
When one race overwhelms another one, what culture do you have? The culture of the more numerous race.

So culture is the ONLY issue you have?

I am more concerned with the litany of immigration while my race does not even retain numbers with averages of less than 2 children per couple. Eventually it will lead to the elimination of the race AND the culture.

So culture is the ONLY issue you have?

There are a large number of people in the US who have Native American blood. Guess how many know anything about their ancestors?
Or their practices and beliefs?

So its about culture then?

I am proud of my race.

Are you proud of all the losers in your race or just the winners? It has to go both ways bro. Are you proud of all the people in that Video NN posted? Pride should come from accomplishments. Being born a certain race is not an accomplishment. Its like being proud of your height, age or hair color. Stupid.

I'm proud of things I have personally accomplished. I am not proud of things that fell into my lap.

Racial competition is stupid. Even if the majority of people feel the need to participate in it.. that doesn't make it any less stupid.

Why are you so up in arms over women wanting men with money, or getting custody of kids. Or the end of the traditional family? Why is that so bad? Women are great with kids. What is so bad about western women? Why do you hate on them so much?

I don't "hate them". The issues I have with women as a group are all based on how I am personally effected by their power and position in the world. Its about the quality of MY life. That is a legit concern.

Unlike worrying about your blood line 1000 years from now long after your corpse has been devoured by worms. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[PlayHer Man]

I am merely pointing out the flaw in your "culture" thinking. I see you still haven't thought it through yet. You're young still, maybe you will catch on at some point.

See those are value statements. Unlike you, I have tolerance and I don't attack them. Those are what you value. Good for you.

Being proud of my heritage, race and culture is not a bad thing. You just seem to hate it for some reason. Either that or you just hate white culture.

Wrong. I am simply explaining how I think. Something you refuse to do. I asked you WHY race (outside of culture) is so important to you and you haven't told me yet.

Another value statement. I have no problem whether you think it's stupid or not.

Are you catching on yet to what a value statement is? I should be charging you for this.

I fully understand that we "value different things". All I'm doing is telling you WHY I value what I do. I'm asking you the same question. You can't seem to answer that question. You can't explain why its so important to keep a certain "race" going.

You DO realize the human race as a whole (and earth itself) will eventually come to an end right? So worrying about your blood line is retarded. It will end one way or another.

You should worry about your quality of life and the life of your kids and their kids (this is where culture comes in and we agree). Who cares if there is only one race 1000 years from now?

I'll respect your position that keeping all the races going for 1000 more years is "important" if you can explain to me WHY its important. But you can't.

...So until you CAN.. lets just agree to disagree.

 

[Lexington]

What exactly is "white culture" anyway? Is the culture of Alabama white culture? What about the culture of Massachusetts? I've been to both places and most people will notice substantial cultural differences. Boston and Birmingham have been culturally quite distinct for centuries. What about the Germans? The French? Surely these people have some claim to "white culture." But then even within those countries there are regional differences in culture.

Then you also run into the problem of culture never being static. The culture of America 200 years ago was substantially different to the culture of the United States today. For example, almost all of us on this forum would be married and we probably would have only ever fvcked 1 girl. And if we weren't married, we'd be considered failures. American culture even 50 years ago is substantially different from American culture today.

As for "blood lines" being preserved....they have been constantly changing for millennia and will continue to change. Heck our very species, Homo Sapien has interbred with Neanderthals. All non-African populations have Neanderthal genes. Now that brings us to another interesting question. Scientifically speaking, what exactly is race? It's harder to define than you might think.

There was once a time when the Irish were considered to be of a different race from the English. Italians were considered "non-white." Some continue to regard Jews as a different race but many of them are blond haired and blue eyed. You can find varying frequencies of certain alleles among even different "white" sub-populations. Does this constitute a racial divide?

Finally, if by "bood line" you mean your genes, you have nothing to worry about so long as you can successfully reproduce. Unless one particular race (whatever that means) is wiped out, its genes will continue to be part of the gene pool. So when a white man fathers children with a black woman, just as many of his genes would have been passed as if he mated with a white woman.

Heck, your offspring are more likely to be biologically fit if you breed with someone who is very distantly related from you. So if I mate with a Chinese or black woman, I am much less likely to pass on deleterious recessive traits to my offspring. It's similar to why mutts tend to have far fewer health problems than the most pure bred dogs.

Now I'm not saying that everyone should go and father children with someone from a different race. Obviously, I hope your mate selection criteria is more complex than just checking off race! The point is, race is just one small part of what any person is. There are lots of great white people just as there are plenty of douchey ones. The same goes for black people, Indians, Lithuanians, Lebanese whatever.....

 

[( . )( . )]

Why do you care so much that I want my race to last alongside the others? What infuriates you so much about that value?

Maybe he had a bad experience with indoor plumbing and vaccinations.

Suck it haters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64nD59JteOI

 

[PlayHer Man]

No, not wrong. You had no response for my post about a race and culture disappearing together when they get overwhelmed, using Native Americans as an example.

You just glossed over it because you had no answer for it.

That's because I addressed it SEVERAL times earlier. I already said I agree with your position on culture. I'm talking only about race.

My race and culture are important to me because it is my history, heritage, who I am, and where I came from. When you import boat after boat after boat of immigrants that outbreed you, then that eventually disappears. Just like nobody gives two-$hits about the Native American. I already said this, you just have different values, so it freaks your intolerant @ss out.

Yeah, and I already said Native Americans were slaughtered and marginalized. They didn't fade away by mixing with other races.

Seems your main fear is that non-whites will treat the white race the same way the white race treated Native Americans, Blacks and Asians.

I like to think the world has moved beyond that. Unless you believe non-whites are all uncivilized monsters out to destroy you. If that's what you believe then see a doctor.

I don't care why you value it. That is the difference between us. I don't attack your values or question them. But here you are attacking mine while calling me the intolerant one. And I have now answered your question twice, you just don't like the answer.

Don't get butthurt because I ask you to back up your belief system. If you don't want your beliefs questioned then don't state them.:crazy:

I don't care if people question my values because I know exactly what I believe and why I believe it.

Why so sensitive Danger?

Awesome, when you decide to have a child, send your woman to me and I'll impregnante her. Since your bloodline doesn't matter and all.

That analogy shows how limited your thinking is. I'm telling you that when I decide to have kids.. I don't give a sh!t about the race of the mother. You respond to that by telling me I should simply let my woman f*ck another guy? What kind of twisted sh!t is that?

BTW.. I have no problem with adopting a kid. I don't subscribe to the lizard brain: "I must reproduce" way of thinking anyway. :crazy:

Also.. if my kids decide to reproduce with someone outside their race.. I don't care about that either.

YOU want your kids to reproduce ONLY with their own race because this will somehow accomplish something.:crazy: Your "blood line" will last another generation WooHoo!! As if it matters. :crackup:

I don't care if there is only one race 1000 years from now. What I don't want is there to be three races and my race no longer being one of them. Why is that a problem for you?

Never said it was a problem for me. Just said its stupid. My personal opinion (which I have a right to).

Why do you care so much that I want my race to last alongside the others? What infuriates you so much about that value?

Nothing. I don't care and I'm not infuriated. I just don't see the logic behind it and I've been trying to find the logic by asking you questions. But it turns out there is no logic behind it. Its just emotions.

I already explained it to you above and in my previous post, but I don't need, nor do I care for your respect. Your question alone shows that you never understood the issue presented. The overwhelming of one race is what I have a problem with, not if they all mix into one. If you can't understand that value then that is your own problem, not mine.

The overwhelming of one race only seems to bother you if its YOUR race. Am I right? If that's the case.. you can't even argue "values".

I think you are still blending race and culture. They are not the same thing. Lets say the entire world had ONE culture. Would you still care about persevering each race forever?

All the races will eventually die out. This is what makes "racial pride" retarded.

I have every right to want my race to stand alongside the others as opposed to being overwhelmed and all but wiped out like the Native Americans.

Do you care about the quality of human life on earth or just the lizard brain: "my race must go on!! Aaaahhh"

Seems like a very shallow thing to worry about. Considering all the worlds problems. This is the same problem I have with modern women.. the SHALLOW status-seeking vapid ignorance.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Maybe he had a bad experience with indoor plumbing and vaccinations.

Suck it haters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64nD59JteOI

Right because indoor plumbing and vaccinations only exists in white countries, and they will go away if white people disappear. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I know you're smarter than that Tits. You have to be.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Playher,

Once more from the top.

I am ok with one Culture, or one Race, if all races are combined equally. But, I will explain it one more time. Try to keep up.

When one race is diluted through endless immigration, those genes will eventually be wiped out as they are not combined equally. That is what is happening today in white countries. That is what happened to the Native Americans.

It doesn't matter HOW their genes were marginalized, they were still marginalized. For Native Americans it was a matter of unlimited immigration and smallpox and such.

For whites, it is unlimited immigration and no replenishing of their own children. The end result is the same. Overall loss of the race and the genetics as they are overwhelmed by the other genetics.

I understand that you don't want your race to die off while other races live on. I think I finally understand your point of view. Its an issue of fairness. I can support that. Its not "fair" for one race to thrive while another one gets extinguished. Just like the unfair laws against men today and other double standards.

I gotcha

HOWEVER.. I still put this on the same level of importance as the next Spider-Man movie. Yup.. that's how important this issue is when you compare it to REAL problems in the world.

Also.. its way too early to worry about any race dying out. If you did some simple probability math you would see that in order for the white race to disappear through mixing.. 100% of white people have to reproduce with a non-white person. As long as people like YOU exist.. that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. To worry about the white race dying in 2013 is silly. To think you can do anything about it is even sillier.

YOU "Danger" will not be able to single-handedly save the white race. You will be worm food when your great granddaughter is getting pounded by a black guy.. or your great grandson is laying pipe in an Asian chick. You can't do sh!t about it because you're DEAD. Does that put things in perspective?

Maybe you should worry about things that matter today in the world of 2013. Your lifetime and your kids lifetime. You know..... sh!t that actually matters. Not sh!t that will happen in 1000 years.

Oh I bet that's the only problem you have with women.....here's a hint.....understanding basic concepts like dilution might help you understand those girls.

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

STFU Danger. :moon:

I already told you I understand dilution... I just don't give a sh!t about it because its not important.

In fact.. I'll go ahead and say the next Spider-Man movie is MORE important than which race dies out first. Who wins the next Superbowl is also more important. I'll even say the next dog I see licking its nuts is more important. Why? Because who gives a f*ck about 1000 years from now.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Seems your main fear is that non-whites will treat the white race the same way the white race treated Native Americans, Blacks and Asians.

I like to think the world has moved beyond that.

Your point is certainly not beyond rational debate.

To wit:

This is War

Blacks Plan White Massacre in South Africa

Islam's 20 Year Plan For America

I know it'd be nice to hold hands and sing Kumbaya, but plenty of folks hate whites simply because whites are rich and they aren't.

Not dissimilar from the Occupy movement, and the hatred of the 1%.

It's easy to hate when somebody's BOTH rich AND a different race.

Obviously, there's plenty of broke a$$ whiteys eating mayonnaise sandwiches, fukkin their sister (per Chris Rock)

But plenty of folks don't see it that way. Just like in plenty of foreign countries, they assume white=rich.

 

[Down Low]

Some posters here simply did not get the message of my last post. You see, I'm against the Nordic/Germanic blond/blue lines dying out even though they waged a relentless, multi-generational campaign of genocide, expulsion, and cultural eradication against my ancestors, the Celts. Fact is, the vigorous competition between blonds and brunets helped make Europe what it is today. Western Civilization wouldn't be strong without its thematic internal struggles.

One of these thematic struggles is Christianity excluding Islam from territorial control of any part of Europe. Another is forcing Jews to assimilate. Warfare against non-European states and quasi-state associations is part of those struggles. But warfare does not imply wiping out any line. Rather, the reproduction of extant lines must not be suppressed by government policies that favor the new immigrants. Those immigrants already have homelands somewhere else. Those foreign genetic homelands are not threatened by warfare against their emigrants.

Warfare is inevitable when immigrants outbreed natives. Under the same conditions, no group should be bred out of existence. When an immigrant group outbreeds the natives -- replaces them -- the natives have no choice but to take arms.

The mixing of two populations causes the extinction of the genes of the one that's less fertile. If current trends continue, blond/blue genes will be totally exterminated through mixing -- they will not continue as bits and pieces of some sort of mixed DNA. Genetics doesn't work that way.

Fertility rates are now at extreme lows. It's a disaster for the Nordic and Germanic genetic homelands when thousands of its men have no children. It's a disaster when hundreds of extended families reproduce no males. But combine this with blithering liberal idiot policies that favor the immigration and reproduction of black and yellow Muslims -- and especially promote their reproduction with native females while castrating native males -- and our children will live to see that region become the homeland of Arabic-speaking Muslim mulattos. It will be the end of Europe as we have always known it. I don't intend to just sit idly by and watch it happen.

 

[betheman]

Some posters here simply did not get the message of my last post. You see, I'm against the Nordic/Germanic blond/blue lines dying out ....

as a blond haired northern european....I agree

 

[PlayHer Man]

Essentially yes. It was a tragedy about the Native Americans. That should not happen to any race. I am ok for any race to thrive, but not for only one to have to follow "the rules of integration" into oblivion.

Ok.. its unfair. Gotcha.

• I don't worry about it, but it is a distinct possibility based on the current trends that show no sign of abating, and are only increasing.
• At what point should the Native Americans started addressing the problem? They did try, but it was far too late for them. The same is likely to be true for any race as a collective. When it really starts to be seen as an issue, it's pretty much too late.
• I don't care if my kids mix interracial, that appears to be something you still can't fathom. It is possible to not want your race to die out but still support your children marrying and procreating with whomever they wish, regardless of race.
• Native Americans still exist, but they may as well not in all honesty. Their days are numbered. So to say that it "can't" happen is short-sighted.

I think the loss of the culture is a bigger deal than the loss of the race. Just different values here (like you said). I just don't think race "genes" matter as long as HUMANS thrive.

I don't intend to personally "save the race". Why does it bother you that I should state my assessment on the situation?

Why do you think anything you say "bothers me"? You are not hurting me or anyone else by having these values. I don't care if you're part of the KKK. As long as you're not f*cking up anyone's life.

When people see the world differently than me.. I try to understand WHY. And this is all I've been doing with my questions and comments.

Its all good

 

[C-quenced]

Race and ethnicity ARE synonymous with culture. It's rather asinine to use American "culture" as an example to prove otherwise. Over 90% of America's original inhabitants were wiped out as a result of disease brought over by European invaders and African slaves. Keep in mind that native Americans were not at all homogeneous (or as primitive as we are all led to believe by massive misinformation) and the entire continent was vast and rich with many different cultures. This was all before the Europeans stormed the continent in larger numbers as the native population were shrinking. Where are the native Americans and their cultures now?