Physically 7,8 and even 9's are quite common
A woman doesn't really need to do THAT much to get herself into this bracket
Be slim , have moderate curves , do makeup & hair well and dress provocatively ( show a little flesh )
Most men will be more than happy to put the above female archetype somewhere on the scale between 7-9
Conversely for a man to get into the same range he needs to be 6ft minimum , have captivating charisma / confidence , good looks , a head of hair ,good job, a nice car , some degree of muscle , local status and he needs to dress well
The bar is set A LOT higher for us
Most men cannot easily ascertain the above archetype so "game" was concocted by pickup artists too basically try and use emotional triggers and physchological manipulation to try and even out the playing field
For a while it worked .....really pretty women couldn't understand why men were doing things like "Negging" or acting aloof or running amused mastery they weren't used to it
Heck in the early 2010's i was cleaning up every single week
Then hyper connectivity came along and women started doing what they do best ......talking
Now virtually all of the old school routines have been exposed and as a result now come off as "cringe"
Now i am finding women don't want routines but they don't want flatline or generic conversation either because their attention spans are so poor
So have to go off down the comedic, spiritual or emotional routes which with a stranger in 2023 is VERY difficult
I am finding pickup is becoming much like copywriting you really have to find unique ways to capture the audiences attention and you have a very very short window to do it in
I agree but I also think the success of pick-up artists was largely exaggerated.
Yes, pick up artists did well ‘infield’ at getting women to laugh and hand out numbers. Did those women follow up by sleeping with the men after giving out their number - unlikely.
Did the really attractive and tall pickup artists do well (eg mystery) - possibly - but he would have probably done better with a good job and without the routines.
Did the really rich and famous pickup artists like Tyler and Neil do well? Probably - but being famous/clout and having a big mansion in LA is probably the reason why. Remember, these guys were in bookstores and making TV appearances.
But for the pick-up artists that weren’t famous and weren’t good looking - like Tom torrero - were they getting laid with 7s and above weekly? Or the guys paying for bootcamps? Most likely not - which is why Tom torrero was exposed for hiring actresses back in the 2000s.
As you have mentioned, the bar to be an attractive man is very high. If you manage to do well for yourself relative to other men in the looks, status and money department, the best thing you can do is just ‘be chill’. The worst thing you can do is attempt any form of manipulation. The girl already wants you, just be chill, fun and not too eager
I don’t think there ever was a time when average looking, average status/income men were sleeping with very attractive women with ease and regularly. If that was the case, marriage rates would have plummeted and ‘game’ would have been way more mainstream. Most pick up artists ran boot camps in Eastern Europe because they were relying on passport and status to get women.
Most men throughout history have settled down in their 20s with the first or second attractive girlfriend they managed to secure.
