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It didn't really. She played the whole night except for one break (where she went out to smoke a butt with guitar guy, obviously) and I only talked to her for maybe 30 seconds after the show was done. It's clear that I'm just a backdrop for guitar guy right now which sucks, but what can I...

Good story man, glad to hear it. I am currently trying to stop drinking as well because at age 26 it's gotten out of hand. I feel ya bro. Also, would you mind PMing me that myspace tracker, and do they have one for facebook? Thanks.

Her band is playing tonight at a local bar... Any last minute advice on how I should play it tonight would be fantastic! As far as dealing with her, and guitar dude (who again, I am friendly with) Thanks guys. Iwas thinking doing flirty stuff like grabbing her ass when no one is paying...

So do I wait for her to invite me over to her place now, or is it safe to try again later this week or next week? I want to seal the deal before it gets too late.... But I also don't want to ask and get shot down either. Is there any timeframe you'd recommend here or just keep playing it...

good call.

...and I just noticed two missed calls in between the 2 texts from her that I didn't hear for whatever reason around 2 am. So luckily I didn't answer, which I assume is a good thing.

Went to the bar last night. She ended up showing up (we usually frequent the same bar on thurs) Talked to her for a few mins and took off to another bar. Woke up today to 2 drunken texts from her, just randomness. "Heeeyyy" and "Yooooohooo" Can't be bad, obviously I'm on her mind it...

Will do. Thanks for the advice. I already threw out a line to this girl's mutual friend of ours telling her that I'm going out with some girl tomorrow night, so hopefully that gets back to her somehow. They're best female friends, so hopefully she gossips. That should be good until I...

thanks bro. you seem like you've been in a similar situation before? how did it turn out, if so? As far as contact goes. Should I completely avoid her via text/facebook unless she initiates first contact (and even then, ignore her or reply here and there) I see her out a few times a...

Ugh, looks like I fell into a trap. We were supposed to hang out and whatnot, infact she texted me and told me what time she was available and I said lets make it about a half hour later than that because I was doing stuff too. it's all good. Few hours later I get the 'i'm sorry, my place is...

Also, she IM'ed me earlier today and we talked for like 5 mins. I asked her if she was interested in hanging at her place tomorrow and that's a Go, so hopefully I don't **** it up tomorrow and finish the deed this time. How should I follow it up if I do infact bang her? Sorry to sound so...

A fellow Sox fan. Excellent. You make a lot of sense. Let's hope whatever he gives her that she can't resist isn't his guitar playing, because then I'm really fvcked. :crackup: Otherwise, you're right, I'll pretty much just have to be all around awesome to counteract him. Luckily, I...

Thanks for all the advice. I guess the gist of what most of you are saying is I need to fvck the **** out of this chick and then do whatever I feel like on the side while she figures out which **** she wants for the long haul. Works for me.

This is where I got confused. I will see her on a regular basis because we share the same group of friends, so I figured just being her friend and being aloof was the right move until that relationship eventually dissolves like the last poster said, but I was told not to do that. I pretty will...

What effect would banging her and then hanging back have?

The one thing that has me confused is the conflicting advice I'm getting about being aloof or being 'manly' and sexual. I was told by some it was right to play the aloof guy that pretends nothing she does matters or bothers me, and just play it off like we're friends around other people...

Great advice thus far. Thank you. The band thing is pretty tough, you're right, considering they have to practice once a week plus usually 3 shows a month, so whenever he decides 'hey, im horny' he can just pull out the sweet talk snap her back up for the night. thats rough for me. i just...

Well, like I said, she was in a relationship with this guy for about a year, but considered herself single because he refused to commit officially. in other words, he wouldn't claim her. that will obviously make it much more difficult for me since he's the one that wouldn't be with her...

Agreed. The contact has been pretty much 50/50. A few back and forth texts here and there with both of us initiating. I suppose if she texts me today or tomorrow I'll just ignore it and get back to her later on. Even if I do **** her, which I plan on doing, I want to turn this into...

The help is appreciated guys, I would like to hear more opinions/ideas. So basically, next time I get her one on one I need to nail her. I don't foresee that as a problem. The thing is, I hung out with her basically 4 days straight, and I know that can't be good. So would you recommend...