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Random topic but I just wanted some input if this was normal. So last night I got drunk and took a few puffs of a cigerette. I am not a smoker and have never smoked before. It tasted like ass and messed up my throat. I woke up this morning and my throat still feels burned from last night and...

Update-- Well the 4th girl that I never heard from just called me and claims she tried to call me earlier (yeah right :rolleyes: ) and still wants to go out. So at least I'm saved in that respect and maybe I'll hit it. Whatever I don't even care at this point I just want to go out and have a...

Ok so what does it mean when you talk to a woman and shes the one who want to go out on friday night? Does that mean she intends on flaking on you from the start?

Haha thanks bro that actually makes me feel a bit better to know I'm not alone :) Yeah man girls are bytches and flakes, it really sucks. It sucks even more that even knowing that I still want them :( Oh well I guess I'll hit up the bars tonight and try my luck there.

Take a look at my other thread. I migth be hittin up the bar alone again tonight. So in an attempt to get something a bit more useful out of the visit this time, I have a few questions I never really got cleared up. So how do you change your plan with a empty bar vs a crowded bar? It seems...

Has anybody had something like this happen? I have girls flake on me all the time of course, but for this friday I covered my ass pretty well and make 4 dates with 4 different women for today, knowing that at least a few will flake and no matter I'll have a date this friday. Low in behold...

Also one more think I want to ask. How long should I give the scene before I call it and go home? Tonight I was only there for 30 mins before I said fvck it. Do I need to wait it out longer? Even if I'm not really going anything?

Update!! Ok, I'm suprised I had the courage to actually go through with this but I went and let me tell you it didn't feel anywhere as weird as I thought it would feel. I actually felt alright being at the bar by myself. However... I really do think I need a complete change in strategy...

Thanks for the info, it seems I just have to go in there with the right mindset and confidence. I'll give it a try.

After reading some of these post I'm still not quite sure this is for me but I'll give it a try anyway, at least for one night. So the main thing I'm afraid of is being able to start up a conversation with the bartender once I get there. It seems like if that doesn't work I'm seriously...

Uh, why not?

I think I'm going to start going to bars by myself every night to pratice my game without the crutch of being with my friends. I don't really have any idea how this works or what I'm suppose to do when I get there. I plan on going during the weekday so it shouldn't be too crowded, as in I should...

Sorry bro not for me. No fats girls, period. Chubby is ok (and only to a certain extent), but fat girls I can't get into. I wouldn't even be able to get it up.

No I wasn't too drunk to f-close. What I mean is I didn't get her back to my place, instead she went home from the night out of drinking and I didn't invite her up. Maybe I should of invited her up but I got the vibe she wouldn't go for the ONS so I didn't push my luck and decided to save it for...

Update - As I suspected, she was a bit chubby. Not really bad but I'd say border line on whether I'd hit it or not. I was pretty drunk tonight so I probably would of hit it if I had the opprotunity but it didn't come up. Sad thing is she was really a great person and very smart but I wouldn't...

So this chick sent me a pic of her and from the pic its really hard to tell if shes fat or not. It's not really a myspace angle, its just it looks like she might have a little chub shes hiding behind her arms and her decently sized tits. I can handle a bit of chubbyness, but straight up fat I...

Anybody else care to offer me some help?

This is sort of a theoretical discussion so don't take this post too seriously, just looking for some intellectual thought on gender relations. So I was just thinking, there is a whole art out there on how to pick up women and how to show them you are a high value person, thus the existence...

Not at all. In don't need a girlfriend to validate myself and I have been single for over a year and still have great accomplishments. I measure my self-worth by my success in life, not just by having a girl. With that being said, I still want a girlfriend and I don't necessarily think I'm...

Hey Espi, do you mind emailing me at zircon916@gmail.com?