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Trust me man I've been trying to work on my game in RL, even have a friend personally helping me with it as a wingman. Horrible results so far.

I hate to say this but in real life I'm an AFC so the odds of me pulling women are worse than online.

I've been on eharmony for quite awhile, it doesn't work any better than others.

Err I didn't mean specific places, I meant what type of places do these services?

I know this is a sorta strange question and maybe somewhat afc but are there any professional services out there that work on improving someones looks through maybe hairstyle/makeup/clothing style? Like the services that help models before a photo shoot? I'm a pretty decent looking guy, maybe...

Anybody else wanna help me out?

Hey bro, I'm not sure why but apparently I don't have access to PMs. Can you email me? My email is zircon916@gmail.com

Well for one, the people I mentioned were people on this forum and I have no idea what they posted in their profile, so that idea is out. Like I said I have changed my pics and my profile many times without success so I think it is obvious I am doing something fundamentally wrong thus I need...

Can anybody give me some actual advice?

First of all let me state that I don't really have a desire to be a player and just game on women for a hit it and quit it kind of thing. I'm more interested in picking up women to actually date and have fun with; basically to have a normal relationship with. With that out the way... Right...