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Yes, that's my point. I'm just not seeing them in real life. So if you would have me hold realistic expectations, my realistic expectation is that the women I stand a chance to meet in real life are un****able.

See, I got a notice for you quoting me, but not for you posting in this thread. Even though I'm Watching this thread and I have alerts turned on. EDIT: I got a notice for this reaction too.

How come I didn't get an alert for @Hamurabimbi posting in my thread?

Just about every lesson in Don Juanning/pick up artistry comes to this point: Go somewhere where there are women you'd like to have sex with. Case the joint, prepare yourself for some pick up artistry. But here's the thing: I'm not finding any women I'd like to have sex with. Not in my actual...

The thing I want doesn't exist. So I guess I'm gonna have to get the ball rolling. If not write the book itself, get the research underway that the book can be written. On this style of pickup/Don Juanning I want to do. Picture this. You're at a nightclub. The kind where you sit down and have...

Not during a date, during approach. When I first meet her.

I'm talking about touching her waist or something.

That seems kind of aggressive, but I feel like I'm ready to roll the dice. Provided this strategy is already detailed in somebody's book or something. If I'm gonna try feeling on women as soon as I meet them, I'd like to know that there's method to this madness.

First of all, "Everything must go my way" is not a rational expectation. Second, the woman in this situation isn't an idiot. OP is some kind of hypochondriac who doesn't understand why we're all not afraid of the smell of bleach. Third, even if someone is an idiot, you don't get to abuse them...

I'm talking about the approachee, not the approacher. The approachee is not so desperate that the approacher's "charisma" is gonna have any effect on them. Because the approachee isn't hurting for sex. Whatever magic you think you're about to work on women, women are too busy for that. Everyone...

It's not a different story, it's the story the majority of the time. That's my point. That the majority of strangers are not hurting for sex so much that they'd rearrange their lives at random for someone they met on the street. The majority of people, if the mood strikes them, will set...

Iran disbands the Vice & Virtue Squad, Indonesia bans casual sex. When God opens the window... I don't remember the rest of the saying.

What system? The one that lets handsome men abuse women? Your issue is, you're seeing abuse of people as some Chadly privilege that you were "robbed" of. As opposed to the kind of thing an abhorrent jackass would do. You're supposed to be like "Chad should not be abusing people, abuse is...

That's incel talk. "Chad gets to be abusive and he gets away with it, so I'm taking my vengeance on a society that looks the other way. And I'm taking my vengeance through abusing women myself."

You're scared of a bleach smell? I would be confused too. The closest danger I can find is the threat of chlorine gas. But chlorine gas doesn't just happen. It's a mixture of ammonia and bleach and that doesn't just happen by accident. Furthermore, ammonia + bleach doesn't even smell like...

I know, I was responding to say "If I don't wanna be with a woman seeking a relationship, it's not really sound advice to tell me to try and get got by a woman seeking a relationship."

By "looking for it" I mean in the way an employer is looking for employees. It's not a search consuming every waking second, the employer isn't going to the liquor store looking for employees, but if one happens to come his way there he might be like "Know what? This person would be a good fit...

I don't wanna be with those women.

If $20 is a lot of money to me, then yes I was looking for the $20. Because money is one of the needs I deal with on a daily basis. Strangers at the liquor store aren't. Most strangers aren't.

Ban? I'm agreeing with you.