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Thanks, KC, but I just seem to dry up, my friend. I need to loosen up. For the first few dates, I have a plan in mind and it works well. But after that, I must admit, I'm a bit stuck!

I'd be interested in getting your opinions on the behaviours exhibited between dates 4-10. On the first, second and third date, I'm absolutely fine. I have a virtual 100% k-close rate on the first date, often a f-close. And I always nearly f-close by the third date. Please note, I'm using the...

The perspectives over there (mASF0 aren’t as fresh as they are over here on this site. There are plenty of perspectives here - however most of them are not field tested. I get the impression that the posters here are more into the LTR and the passive seduction, whereas the ASFers are more...

It's that type of azzhole comment and way of thinking from a seasoned poster on this board which will keep Don Juan so very far behind the theories, applications and successes of the mASF guys. Look, pal, you skint yourself if you want, buying women as you do. :rolleyes:

Even though I've only been here a short while, this board is PU school and mASF is PU University. I spent 2.5hrs putting together a long post here on how to behave on a date, and only 3 people commented on it. The stuff I put up was much more mASF than DJ, and I thought my advice would be of...

As mentioned earlier, the foundation for this method is the Gunwitch method (GWM) (link). To sum it up, GWM is a method of getting women into bed as quickly as possible using a mixture of sexual state and persistance. The truth is that GWM works so well, especially in pre-arranged meetings, that...

What is your mystery? It's that bit of you she doesn't know about yet - it intrigues her. She talks about it with her girlfriends, hell she's probably even told her mum about you. Here's where the first mistake begins for most men. They will try to fill the mystery with what they think she...

The technique anchors itself heavily in a method of seduction called Gunwitch. You can read all about it by clicking here. Now, Gunwitch was not primarily designed for this situation. It is designed for situations with single females you have isolated. More on the relevance of this a bit later...

On "dating" - a behavioural guide (long but worth it) This post is to follow up and codify my methods of behaviour while on a "date". Now, before I begin, I don't do dates with women who are not my girlfriend, so from now on, they will be called "meetings". This is an important difference, and...

A takeaway is when you temporarily withdraw verbal or non-verbal contact with a woman while in her presence. I think I first read about the idea in DYD. For example, if a woman is holding your hand or kissing you, stop without explanation and look totally unphased by stopping. David DeAngelo...

I sincerely hope I am wrong, but it sounds like you may have strayed into LJBF territory,

Exactly. The fact she is a virgin means you will have to make her feel sexual all the more. Don't try to "nice" her into bed. Threaten to walk away if she does not play ball. You are in severe danger of getting "one-itis". What's the betting that if she does not put out, there'll be posts...

Don't you think that if she were in your sack, she'd be in a relationship with you? In fact, don't you think she'd love to have a relationship if you acted like a man instead of the nice guy you appear to want to be in front of her?

The Gunwitch Method should help you.

My pleasure, Ronin. Just remembered one thing I did on Sunday night which always works well. Has a woman ever told you on a "date" that she has thought of things to ask you before seeing you? I get this quite a lot (maybe it is an English thing). If she does say this, I always say "I...

Re: Avoiding the dating frame Hi, Ronin, my pleasure. The other guys may disagree with what I am saying, as this is just my interpretation. Let's be specific first. By "dating", we are referring to the common practise of time spent together by a man and a woman recently acquainted with...

What exactly are you having trouble understanding?

It's not meant to be a tough guy frame. If meeting a woman for the first time, I never think of it as a date. It is a meeting to establish whether I will find her of sexual and/or emotional interest or not. I am not going there to impress her with my AFCness or neediness - I am going there to...

I don't know that much about Mystery Method, but Papa is an interesting and informed poster on mASF. Perhaps you should try going there. Although there are occasional pearls of wisdom on this place, it is full of depressed virgins who know it all "in theory" but never in practise. Thanks...

Touch is essential on the first date - take it from someone who uses successfully the Gunwitch method (link). I personally will touch the elbow as soon as I see my date, then position the chairs in such a way that our knees will be touching each other. There is some initial early resistance...