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By the way as an update, I ended up sealing the deal with this chick. We had a park stroll one night with some ice cream and I then invited her over to my apartment after, and we just f'cked a couple of times. But she seems a bit aloof still, so maybe the IL is not fully there yet. Who knows.

No. She works in retail. Why does her job matter?

@Barrister @catsmeow I actually side slightly with Barrister on this point. Id like to think I am category 1 like you explained, Catsmeow. But the problem is, I find girls easily feel they are pumped and dumped when I drop them. Again I never promised LTR. I openly talk about seeing other...

I like how you put this. However I can think it may be hard to realize. For example, I've never treated women in a disrespectful way. But whether I am a 'respectful' man or not, is really in their eyes. Some women feel disrespected at the slightest slight. For example, some plates feel played...

Logistics, dude! Date 1. She had to send her cousin home. Date 2. I did try to close. Was rejected. Date 3. I had to sort out an errand. I'm going to try make something happen next

Seems like most of the bros here are of the Bad publicity is good publicity route. That's interesting. I'd imagine being man slut-shamed would actually deter women from considering you since most women have a built in biological drive for security and loyalty. Also, I genuinely think if we...

Hahaha thanks my brothers. I needed a shake down from you guys. Yeah I'll chill it for a bit and f*ck her soon. She's just really hot. Perfect blonde. Like one of those Sports Illustrated girls. Perfect 10. But yes she's not perfect. Need to simmer down. By the way, really liked this...

You're right. In terms of term of sexual escalation; still a bit hesitant. Maybe she's in it for the attention. Let's see how it goes.

I always sit next to the girl. And I mean always. Always find a spot that has a couch if possible. Sit next and define the physical expectations of the interaction from the get go. Start to touch her from the very beginning and set the expectations immediately. Also with the right person...

Hey everybody. This question has been asked on SS in 2005, with barely any replies and discussion; so I thought we could tackle it again; might make a great contribution for the forums. Is gossip about you being a player/ladies man a bad thing? This is something I have been thinking about...

Hey everybody. Thank you all for responding. So it turns out it was a combination of what most of you were saying. Just an update from my side for anyone who ever find themselves in the same rut: - She eventually reached out to me on her own and asked me out for some drinks at this new bar...

No she isn't. She's American.

Hey bros. Would like to know the IL of this girl I recently met: - Met a Tinder date at a Starbucks for some night coffee recently. We make out during the date. - We have a good time. Tons of laughs. She invites me to her friends birthday party on the same night. We bounce off together. - We...

What are some of the approach IOIs?

Can't wait.

This is exactly it and what I am thinking about as of late. I have been trying to be a suave rp'ed DJ lately. Old me would be constantly texting and bugging girls; very simp. New me, well, I have taken a step back. Generally I initiate a few times, we have a good time, we hook up (maybe 3 dates...

Are you saying, generally, it's normal to always be the one pushing/initiating for hangouts with girls?

How do you find the smash? Was it good? Was the girl into it? Glad to know that your persistence got you there but I know sometimes girls will just go along with forceful persistence but with low IL resulting in generally bad s3x and overall just a meh experience in the interaction.

Hi gents. As the thread title states. Been thinking about it lately: 1) Should plates initiate hangouts? Ive realized with some of my plates, they tend to not initiate hangouts with me. I'm the one who is always initiating and it feels like I'm always put on the pursuit. Generally, should...

Bro. I'm currently in the exact situation with one of my plates. She is a younger girl. And yes, from the beginning until now even after sex, she would not really text me that much despite the fact that when I am with her, she is constantly texting her friends instantly and playing with her...