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False. This was never implied at all. You interpreted it as such, but that's due to your poor reading comprehension. Just because something is used or advocated by PUAs doesn't mean they invented it. A sociologist or psychologist doesn't invent many of the concepts they study though they may...

You're right. PUAs study what naturals do so that it can be adapted for their purposes. But the point is, PUA material isn't a bunch of absurd tactics. People may or may not incorporate negs into their game, but a lot of PUA material is stuff we would almost unanimously agree with. As I see...

The bottom line is, he would probably have way more success picking up girls in a club than you or I would. Yeah maybe he's full of sh*t, but then how do I know that you're not full of sh*t? You're an anonymous poster on an internet website. For all I know you could be some 350 lb ball of lard...

You're a little older. I'm not sure you go out to clubs or bars that cater to the younger crowd. Unless you're extremely good looking or clearly quite rich, it's rare for girls at clubs to approach you. The clubs are designed to cater to them plus there are many attractive guys in the venue. Why...

The point is that people say they don't use PUA material when in fact they do. I am quite certain that you use PUA material and even most "naturals" use PUA material. It seemed that the money part was given a specific tip as part of picking up women. [qupte]But I don't think money will...

RSD is more focused on giving practical advice on how to get laid. I do agree there's a lot of fanboy stuff too but hey, irrational optimism gets your further than rational defeatism. PUAs promote this PUAs promote this PUAs promote this A) lots of folks don't have their finances...

The Westboro Baptist Church is a bunch of complete whackjobs who picket dead soldiers' funerals. They are Christians. Christians must all really suck. Most of the high profile terrorist bombings are carried out by Muslims. Muslims are blood thirsty murderers. Let's declare war on Islam...

"Well, love isn't rational anyway, so I'm content to settle for a broke, post-Wall fatty with baby rabies."

The problem is that he's ascribing things to them that they never promoted. Show me one well known PUA who encourages humiliating a woman in front of her daughter.... And I guarantee you that some of the things you say and do (much of which you might do naturally), are things that PUAs also...

No hostility, just rebutting some of this claims. With this very thread you've demonstrated that you don't quite grasp what that "stuff" even is. You dissed a girl and then tried to attribute that to PUAs as if that's something which they promote. This is vague and non-specific. What...

Except you probably DID use PUA tactics without knowing it. Pickup artistry is the study of what attracts women and employing that knowledge to pickup women. Do you honestly believe that in the entire repertoire of PUA tactics, nothing works? Unless you're really good looking, of high status...

Alpha male is a term borrowed from ethology. Take wolves for example, the Alpha male is simply the highest ranking male in the pack. He is the Alpha because he earned that position through physical dominance. There is nothing good or bad about it; he is probably bigger, stronger and more...

I didn't say that they stay exclusively because of them. But there is an aspect of Alpha dominance which they are attracted to. You're moralizing here and allowing your emotions to cloud an amoral subject. There are women who have escapes who nevertheless choose to stay with abusive...

As Rollo points out, it's common for us to ascribe "good" qualities to Alphaness, often those that we are ego-invested in. This is why when you ask for examples of Alphas, most men submit people they admire. Alphaness and the evolutionary underpinnings of mating are amoral. It is perfectly...

Your odds of salvaging this relationship are less than 50% Proceed under the assumption that it's over. Keep being distant and (as always) keep spinning plates. She might perceive higher value in you and come back, but she definitely has one foot out the door.

I disagree here. It seems to me that what you're saying is that attraction either exists or it doesn't and nothing you do makes a difference. I do agree that you have to have initial attraction but I also think that the way you conduct yourself and the personality you project plays a major role...

Well then we must have some conflicting data. Of course, you have to tailor your playbook to your personality. Not every offense can effectively run the zone read option, but some offenses can do it to devastating effect.

This could be said about anything. I'm sure you could close some very attractive girls by complimenting them. Ultimately there are certain patterns of behavior that can help/enhance your chances of scoring with any particular woman. All you can do is see what patterns are associated with...

People "neg" each other all the time. Chances are you neg your friends, your coworkers, your family all the time. That's really all there is to it. A neg should result in a girl laughing and maybe playfully punching you in the arm or something of that nature. Obviously, you're not going to get...

Doctors make money to treat patients. Car mechanics get paid to fix your car. College professors and school teachers receive compensation for the education they provide. Yes a lot of the PUA gurus make money off of what they teach, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of what they teach...