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talk about normal stuff such as "is this your father's shop? Ooh your a big girl." [...]Talk about yourself abit too. She will think I'm a gold digger. :D Actually I had a similar idea in mind. "Do you cook all of these cakes by yourself? Darn, you must feel very tired every night. Hopefully...

So I guess I just lack basic communication skills, as it is evident from my over thinking about every single details of a possible interaction. No, I have a long way to go, I'm a total wreck right now.

Yeah that's what I'm looking for, any ideas?

Indeed, that is the case. And fear of what her male coworkers would do. Should I just forget her and sarge in more comfortable areas? Or approach her and be as straightforward as possible and tell her "Your hair is cute. I like you, give me your number " Actually I tried that line once...

That would be the ideal scenario, but there are always 3 of her coworker guys sittinga few meters away from her. I think starting a conversation with her would be wierd and and they will know i'm picking her up. So any kind of conversation and interaction should be non-flirty and straight forward.

Very helpful, thanks. Somehow I felt the same way while I was typing those lines, nausea. But I know she is receiving "You look cute, now be ma girl" type of compliments everyday, so i tried to come up with something more creative. hahaha That's a possibility, since it is a culturally...

There is this 9.5/10 girl who works in the biggest and most famous candy shop in our town. She is cute and she knows it. Looks like she is from a rich family, has many options, and there are always one or two beta guys standing in a corner and staring at her. I think the shop belongs to her dad...

That's only the beginning. Don't be surprised if she decides to poop in your mouth. Not sure if you could laugh then. Edit: she is trying to break up with you without hurting your feelings, letting you to build up disgust and then dump her ass by yourself. Sounds like you don't get it though.

You got cold approached. Nevertheless, that was a positive experience. Now you should keep practicing cold approaches more and more, while also reinforcing that new cognitive process. "Hey look at me for a sec" and when she looks at you tell her: "Congrats, you just experienced love at first...

That was fvcking hilarious. I would keep her as a friend, such great sense of humor.

That was sad. Hopefully you will recover form this experience.

They could develop feelings in the long run

If it's brought up while you are approaching her, It's probably true. And it's better to give up. However you can go bolder and say "No worries, you will break up with him right after I fvck your brain out" Though most girls already have a BF and are attached, that doesn't mean they don't fvck...

Well then I have to lower my standards personally. Probably down to HB4-5s. I thought being a tad stubborn during the approach would be OK. Should I give up chasing the hot ones? This is how I look, sort of ...

I DO think with my d!ck. No alternatives, sorry.

Stop making multiple topics about her. That would be a good start.

8================D Simple and to the point. If she asks what does it mean, tell her I miss you that much. 8======================D

Persistence at all stages. Approaching, arranging the first date and finally, escalation. For example you approach a HB9 and she completely ignores your existence. Or hell, some of them even scream at you, which I shrug it off with giggling or asking her to stop crying. Do you look like a fool...

You can't get your life together when your c0cka is hard and stiff at all times. Kinda hard to concentrate on anything else.

I think they are probably fed up with guys chasing them for too long. To them, It's just desperation IMO. Not that much different. Thoughts?