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Its not uncommon for a guy to be seen as good looking with a girl, the girl may even flirt with him and tell him hes hot, and then he get's no where with her. theres many reasons for this: 1. the Most important reason: personality DOES matter. Even though looks matter so much to women...

The officer that brutally beat an innocent black man(a poor hurricane katrina victim) in New orleans a while back has successfuly commit suicide by gunshot to the mouth. :rockon: All just a month before his trial for his police brutality was set to begin (june 29th). Guess he knew he just...

bump it has been confirmed through a special test I did in PM that this is in fact the real skip, mods, do not ban him. let him speak!

a man that can provide for them financially on a level that is significantly better than that of the men they normally get on average. If middle class is significantly better (maybe she for what ever reason only gets poor dudes, then to her, hes an excellent provider) But most hot women will...

yeah, I did. I love the part where brook said: "He might be a player, but hes the best looking guy here" ;) :yes: *god of getting layed points down to his sig*

you need to cite sources that support the theory of patterning, NLP, Social proof and neg hits that can back up that they actualy work. (they actually dont! and are BS) I think its wrong to try to teach techniques and pass them off as "actually works" when they really dont. Another...

Im going to have to disagree here. If sex is the very thing she is looking for, then it is very likely that this average joe is good looking to her. when it comes to casual sex, women put looks as a requirement given that she can get sex from almost any guy (shes HOT). If the woman is good...

You are absolutely right. once they admit its possible for men who can get almost any woman to be with an ugly women, they will then have to admit that the very examples they provide could also just be an anomaly as well. The 'looks dont matter' fools just dont want to go there, becuase these...

Ill bet money she thinks this guy is hot in her eyes. I know guys who look like this dude, and I also know girls who are saying hes hot. yep, guys are poor judges of male attractiveness. Its not uncommon for a good looking guy to be rated as average by men, yet women rate him much higher...

well, what if I told you the world is actually flat?.... You see, the problem is, theres no evidence that supports your little theory that ALL women are ALREADY sexually attracted to any given man just as there is no evidence that supports a flat world theory. Although, If you think Im...

1. If you want to be successful with the really hot women. Looks are not negligable. She must see you as atleast cute in her eyes or you dont stand a chance no matter your game. (statistically speaking). The idea that you only need game and can neglect being good looking to get HBs is a lie...

1. Actually they do know alot about you. They are not totally ignorant. Based on the way you look, how you act, how you talk, your approach, the woman has gained a pretty good bit of information about you, before she has actually gotten to know you. Women form whats called a "1st impression"...

Not occording to all the evidence that rico, myself and others have provided. This evidence outweighs anything your side has provided. But if you feel otherwise about this, please feel free to post the evidence from your side in summary format ;) yes you did implicitly say that. given the...

yeah, women want money, as do all humans. But thats not the part of your statement that was the lie. The lie was the part where you say "not looks". Thats your lie. Yeah, you never explicitly said this, but you implicitly did. It was very clear what you were implying given the context etc...

Well, the word "appearance" is the word you use to identify that characteristic. Others may label that as "looks". But it is still what it is, just the name has changed. either way, that characteristic is what guys like me call "looks", and they do in fact matter. There are many...

you make this too easy for me Deus, I didnt even have to leave this thread to find one of your lies: Another example that comes to mind is how you like to resort to deception tactics. ie using a rare minority example of a hot girl with an ugly guy (julia-Lyle) and turn around and try to say...

Its true, most men are horrible judges of attractiveness. Alot of good looking men are seen as average looking by the "attractiveness blind" men that make up most of the male population. So to these men, they dont see a good looking guy with a hot girl, they see an average guy with a hot girl...

If this were the only evidence that has ever been posted about looks mattering, then what you say about it being meaningless could make sense. BUT! There has been mounds and mounds of other evidence that rico as well as many others have posted(including myself) that are in agreement with...

great link, youre good at doing your homework rico. Is it me, or am I the only one noticing that evidence just keeps mounting and mounting and mounting that points to women caring about looks as much as men, being as shallow as men, and basically demonstrating mate selection behavior...

Still havent posted your source for that poll you speak of. EVERYONE, DONT LISTEN TO DEUS, HE LIKES TO MAKE UP PHONY BULLSH!T EVIDENCE!!! So wheres your credibility Deus ex pianoforte?