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Single parent household. Would never let a man lead her. Gross. No more first date dinners. It's a form of slow torture, unless you randomly get lucky and hit it off with the girl.

Correct and correct, in fairness to you both. Dinner was more-or-less sh1t. It was inexpensive. She had just come from the gym and was sad about missing her 100kg squat PR. She was complain-y. She works in a gym, so has to be there before 6am to open it every day. I fell into her trap...

I can see how I am pedestalising her with this thread. I.e. If I DGAF then the thread wouldn't exist. My rationale for the thread is to hone game and interrogate an interesting tenet of game: frame; and her pushing for dinner on the first date. I also enjoy these discussions. I usually find...

This made me laugh. I'm 33. Tried to display on profile here but it wouldn't update. I haven't sent it yet. Wanted to see what you all thought first. I kind of like it ngl. Normal is good, yeah... but... meh Now I'm leaning towards dinner again....

"I will be saving my appetite for devouring you until the sun comes up. Tomorrow is karaoke night. Let's meet at [X] at [Y] o'clock." And let the chips fall where they may...

Yes, I see. I find her cute, I want to smash, but I have this 'principle' in my head that I picked up off the internet about buying them dinner on the first date. Hmm.

I arranged an outdoor date for tomorrow with the girl I approached (on Sunday) in the gym: me at 12:24: "It looks like the weather is going to be bad tomorrow. Let's go out tomorrow night instead. I hope you can sing." her at 12:39: "Rainy days. Yes, let's go for dinner." My idea was to take...

I googled around for this but I don't think it's available / widespread anymore. Anyone know where to find?

In September, I fvcked 3 girls, with the potential of fvcking them again. Two of them were colleagues working at the same place After having the first (younger and hotter) girl, I wanted to go for the second My mistake, I think, is doing zero follow-up (spinning of the plate), with the first...

Sup 280 days since drinking alcohol. I moved city, to a place that suits me better. I have solid friends here with similar interests and values; the scene for women is excellent; and I leased a great apartment in a great location. I'm able to pursue the type of life I want. Last year, I was in...

I'm still stuck on the incident at the wedding. You rationalised and talked your way out of that one. That level of disrespect and disregard should have been a red line. Now you're meditating on how to integrate this woman into your life further. You have a penchant for trying to think this...

First night lay, last night. There was actually quite a bit of texting since Wednesday. On Friday I cancelled the Sunday afternoon date (because work came up for me Sunday day-time) and proposed ice cream and movies Sunday night. She was on board. This was a good indicator for me as it showed...

Cute, 23 y.o., we've been talking almost 2 weeks, only able to arrange date now due to her and my work and my travel, interest level seems high, she texted first twice so far this week. What should I say next here? I don't want my time wasted again. If it were up to me, I would just say "if...

I tried to resist replying to this but... I feel strongly about it. Objectively, OP, your entire assertion is pure trash and an affront to any man who takes responsibility to overcome adversity in his life. It's so easily, provably wrong, that I'm not even going to provide any evidence to...

Life update... TL;DR: I've embraced semen retention and started praying daily. My lease is up in August and I want to move because I don't like my current city and apartment. My motivation to date or involve myself with women at all until that time is extremely low. --------- As mentioned, I...

smgdh ngmi (fr doeh if you can engineer a wild 3some with this mentally ill bish... that would be a dub, I guess.)

Why would she agree? She chose to flake twice. It would have been easy to accommodate both tomorrow. The biggest takeaway from this experience for me was how I managed it this week. I implemented some of the advice that I've been given here, and I'm better off for that. It's a positive...

smgdh. What a d1ckhead she is. I realise that when I said "could do karaoke tonight" in response to her second flake in a week, I fvcked up. I was allowing her to dominate frame again, disrespect my time (again!), and I was communicating to her 'oh, ok! eh, tonight then please! I'm not...

This^^ is your #1 priority. No more chit chat. Don't arrange anything with her. Pack her stuff up yourself, bring it somewhere far away from you and your home, and tell a mutual acquaintance that she can go find it there. Cold. Fvcking. Turkey. Then you can move on to figuring out why you did...