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I'm 26, but she's 21 and somewhat childish.

But it was. Are you saying it's more likely she resisted the kiss due to low attraction, rather than shyness?

Ok thanks.

We were cuddling on the couch on date 2, but she could hear my roommate in his room and resisted my kiss. Is there any chance to pull it off on date 3, if we're completely in private? How soon to the beginning of the date should I attempt? Should I not take her to any other locations first...

If the question would get more responses in the high school forum, and if that's your only answer to the question, go ahead and put it there.

She's a very shy girl in particular and needs absolute privacy with me to do anything. I have made moves, but she had resisted only because we didn't have that privacy. Are you saying that on this next date, I should not take her anywhere other than my room, where I kiss her within 10 minutes...

Would have possibly kiss closed on the second date, if my roommate hadn't been in his room. Had the girl on the couch in the common area, we were cuddling but she was shy about going further in case the roommate were to overhear. Given that she wanted it on some level, what are the chances to...

The only way out is through.

Keeping frame control might have saved my ass. No pun intended

Difference is you had sex before.

Now here's a more confusing situation Had a girl cuddling on my shoulder on my couch, so I touched her arm then she got up/pulled away. Tried to kiss close later on and she didn't feel comfortable. Might have been too much comfort, not enough attraction...

Sure, but you described holding frame while simultaneously having low value. You need both relative value and frame control.

I've had that kind of thing happen where I kiss her, she doesn't move away but just takes it as a peck "like she's a sculpture," as you said. At least she didn't pull away or resist. But if you get her in this kind of halfway-kiss like you described, best to do it with more time left in the...

I actually wonder if it's a way to test and see if her friend approves of me, before she gets into doing anything intimate. They're both fresh off the boat from Japan... THAT culture, you know. Could be the exact opposite too.

How do you respond? Assume she isn't interested, and next? Let her bring the friend and try to game both of them? Assume it's a **** test and convince her not to bring the friend along?

What about if the girl isn't satisfied in bed, how often are breakups directly triggered by that?

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