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I basically get your formula and I agree with that. But one of the bigger questions was if she says she wants friendship only but her actions speak otherwise, do you still pursue? If so then dating profiles are useless and so is reputation.

That's my point because neither would I. That's the good thing about online dating is that you learn all of this upfront without having to waste invested time. But if you meet on the street, you will have to wait until she asks. She might not ask until the 6th date (this has happened to me)...

It's not that I want to skip sex, it's just I prefer not to have sex with someone who has no intention for it to lead anywhere. Huge waste of time. Just answer this one question because you seem to be in a similar position as me. One question: You are online and you read that she...

I'm telling you that I don't want meaningless sex. Even if ****ing her is the way to get her to change her mind, I rather be single.

I still think you are missing the point because you are clearly ignoring the most important parts of my questions

I don't see how I'm a troll because I'm confused about a concept. If you had something to add to help clarify, you can do that, otherwise I don't see how name calling is helping any situation.

Yeah funny thing is I'm religious myself but other religious women are the most difficult. This has forced me to relax many of my old standards, now I'm pretty much just looking for a decent girl who wants something real. And I date many different women but I still have no relationship. It's...

Right I understand the don't ask part, but my question is why wait for 10 dates to find out that she never wanted the same thing? It feels like a waste of time when I can just ask on the first date"what are you looking for" to see upfront if we have the same intent. It's not about looking...

Hence if it is known that her reputation is one of a girl that despises commitment or men without cars or men with kids, and you don't have a car or have kids and want a relationship, why still push for sex? If you don't know her reputation, why not ask before you find out her reputation 10...

I meant I don't sex WITHOUT a relationship

I'm asking questions to make a point. You yourself said you won't date a women who cannot offer what you want so why not just ask that on the first date instead waiting to find out on the 6th date that she doesn't date men without cars or ____ and you've already wasted 6 dates because the...

What about a girl who claims she doesn't date men with no car and you have no car? Just keep pushing for sex and waiting for her to eventually fall for you? This idea doesn't work for guys who actually dont have sex outside of a relationship

Lol I DONT want sex. I want an LTR.

What about women who ask first and bring up the question or on online dating sites who clearly say they don't believe in LTR. You still will date someone whose made it known to the whole world she doesn't believe in what you want?

But dude.....that's soooooooo much wasted money on dinner just for company and no sex. I want to know I'm not spending thousands of dollars on a girl that believes that having 4 husband's should be mandatory in a relationship

Some say that to keep a girl chasing you, you must appear as if you don't care and are just having fun. I am seeking a long term relationship and don't want to involve myself with women who aren't seeking the same which is why I will ask women on the first date what they are seeking or avoid...