Some say that to keep a girl chasing you, you must appear as if you don't care and are just having fun. I am seeking a long term relationship and don't want to involve myself with women who aren't seeking the same which is why I will ask women on the first date what they are seeking or avoid profiles online that state they are only seeking to casually date or want to be "friends first" or are "open to anything" or any of the other dumb things women say they are looking for. Should a women's intentions be disregarded because women don't even know what they want or should you only judge by actions and not intentions?
Should you ask her her intentions for dating?
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But dude.....that's soooooooo much wasted money on dinner just for company and no sex. I want to know I'm not spending thousands of dollars on a girl that believes that having 4 husband's should be mandatory in a relationship
Tictac
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Think of how much money you'll waste 'interviewing' women and telling them you are only interested in a long-term relationship. You'll go on a lot of first dates, pay for dinner and no sex.
Give up the idea that you control this. You don't. Find women you're attracted to and ask them out. Have fun. Repeat. If there's a relationship to be had, she'll start talking about it.
What about women who ask first and bring up the question or on online dating sites who clearly say they don't believe in LTR. You still will date someone whose made it known to the whole world she doesn't believe in what you want?
NSX-R
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You got already your answer . Push always for sex.
What about a girl who claims she doesn't date men with no car and you have no car? Just keep pushing for sex and waiting for her to eventually fall for you?
This idea doesn't work for guys who actually dont have sex outside of a relationship
This idea doesn't work for guys who actually dont have sex outside of a relationship
I'm asking questions to make a point. You yourself said you won't date a women who cannot offer what you want so why not just ask that on the first date instead waiting to find out on the 6th date that she doesn't date men without cars or ____ and you've already wasted 6 dates because the question never arrised until she asked it??
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Go become a monk then. There IS no relationship without sex. Now go run along and troll somewhere else.
I meant I don't sex WITHOUT a relationship
Hence if it is known that her reputation is one of a girl that despises commitment or men without cars or men with kids, and you don't have a car or have kids and want a relationship, why still push for sex? If you don't know her reputation, why not ask before you find out her reputation 10 dates too late?
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You can't guarantee a relationship. All you can do is fvck her right. You can pretty much guarantee you'll never be in a relationship without fvcking her tho...being afraid to make a move leads to only one place. The friend zone.
Stop believing the fairy tale fantasy you've been told. It doesn't exist.
Tictac
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If you aren't going to do anything but contradict what anyone here tries to tell you, go waste your time somewhere else. It's clear that you know nothing about women and don't want to know.
If you start every encounter with a woman as though it has to be a relationship on your terms, you will have a lifetime of first dates and flakes.
If you start every encounter with a woman as though it has to be a relationship on your terms, you will have a lifetime of first dates and flakes.
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I understand where you're coming from.
Go for girls you like, first of all.
Consider women who have things that match some of the things you're looking for in a girlfriend/wife.
Do not bring up "I want to be in a relationship" "I'm looking for a relationship" that takes the fun out.
The way you go about it is have the persona of "I haven't found someone that'd make me want a relationship, when I do, I'll consider it" You've just given her something to work for.
You have to go out with them and you have to be sexual, without actually having seks.
If you want to wait for a relationship before seks, you still have to touch her, hold her, kiss her but hold out on actual seks.
FYI wanting this greatly reduces your pool but it's ok, always go for what you want.
Right I understand the don't ask part, but my question is why wait for 10 dates to find out that she never wanted the same thing? It feels like a waste of time when I can just ask on the first date"what are you looking for" to see upfront if we have the same intent. It's not about looking needy, it's about not wasting time having meaningless sex with women that can offer me nothing
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If you keep touching her and keep your options open, some of the girls will bring it up.
They don't want to waste their time either and I doubt it'd take 10 dates for that to come up.
The idea is date multiple women.
It might be a cliche but look for religious women.
Yeah funny thing is I'm religious myself but other religious women are the most difficult. This has forced me to relax many of my old standards, now I'm pretty much just looking for a decent girl who wants something real.
And I date many different women but I still have no relationship. It's the wasted time I'm afraid of.
I think I already mentioned online dating profiles where you don't even have to ask. A good 60% of them state they aren't looking for anything serious which means I have a lower pool to pick from. Which is another reason I made this thread. If she has made it clear to the world she doesn't want what you want, should you date her in hope she changes her mind after she sees how amazing you are?
I got the "don't ask don't tell part" but what if she already told before you even met her? You are really lowering the list of potential mates
I don't see how I'm a troll because I'm confused about a concept. If you had something to add to help clarify, you can do that, otherwise I don't see how name calling is helping any situation.
I still think you are missing the point because you are clearly ignoring the most important parts of my questions
