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Well, I'm not. I'm just wondering if it would be easier to just go after some other girl who hasn't been worked on by some other guy instead of trying to overcome it. If I see a girl who's talking to some guy, and a girl who's by herself, nine times out of ten I'll just write off the other...

There's many times I've seen or known a girl I'm interested in, and who I know has some interest in me, but whenever I see her laughing it up with another guy it just kills my initiative. I just say, "Ah, screw it, she likes him," and leave them alone. After all, if the other guy has her...

Just let it go, and if anyone brings it up, make known that she's BSing. But if you get all worked up over it, it'll probably encourage her to do it more because she sees it having an effect. And others will assume there's a reason you're getting so agitated, ie., because the rumors are true...

It's called evolution.

Uh, I always thought it was the other way around.

Served.

What would qualify as "soft and subtle"?

I feel really weird trying to touch other people. I have to mentally and consciously go out of my way to do it if I was going to do something like this, like, "Oh yeah, I should probably grab her hand," or something and then it's really artificial and awkward, you know? Or at least I think so...

Once a cheater always a cheater.

Her spiel is just another version of the "Oh I wish I had a nice guy" rant that girls give before they go contradict themselves.

Look, if you want to get back with him and apologize for being stupid, don't sit around thinking about it - go do it. Then you'll know what he is thinking and where you stand.

You are the pursuer. If you wait for women to call you then you're going to be waiting for a long time. Women are passive; men are aggressive. You are the initiator.

Cheaters are the scum of the Earth.

Let me get this straight: you hate this girl you don't know for things you imagined. WHAT?

I'm interested in how it turns out. Are you sure you two were actually friends or that you were LJBF'd before this though? In any case, I hope it works, because if you can do it then I can do it. Didn't she get weirded out when you just started acting all sexually towards her when before you...

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Eh, 16 is pushing it for me. When I see an older guy dating a younger girl like that I just think he can't attract women his own age so he has to go look elsewhere.

Eh, you win some you lose some. Keep it up.

Yes, I know. The problem is I don't become attracted to someone until after I've been friends with them for a long time. For instance, I've been friends with this one girl for over two years; we're practically best friends, and I'm just realizing I want something more.

Is there no way to have a best friend in a woman before trying to enter a relationship with her? Is it only meeting others as strangers that one can do anything?