Apps are no fun these days for men.

[Rainman4707]

Apps are soo bad now. Remember ten years ago..i would get a lot of matches. Nowadays....nothing much happens. They must be getting more greedy...constant notifications asking me to pay for things.

 

[SW15]

The swipe apps have generally been a poor experience for the majority of men. There is still a small percentage of higher tier men who continue to do well on the apps and seduce many women.

 

[CornbreadFed]

People cried about them 10 years ago still

 

[Rainman4707]

People cried about them 10 years ago still

They are worse now

 

[The Duke]

People cried about them 10 years ago still

Yes, but way more tears are shed these days. I've been around for a while.

 

[The Duke]

If you follow the financial history of these dating companies you'll see they are suffering. MatchGroup has seen a 4% decline in paying members year over year. They keep changing out ceo's. Their stock prices have tanked in the last 5yrs. All this pay to play stuff they have been rolling out hasn't worked. Both major companies have announced they are getting away from their core business model and looking to develop ways users can find friends, not just dates. By the looks of Bumbles stock price, I don't know where they plan to generate the funds to develop new business. Obviously its not coming from Wall Street investors. Match Group's trend line isn't any better.

And Bumble is hiring back Whitney Wolfe as CEO, after she about ran it into the ground which has to be the stupidest idea yet.

Match.com was created in 1995 and cultural trends tend to last about 30years. You are witnessing online dating coming to an end. It has ran its course.

Who knows, maybe virginity will become a thing again. ;-) Lord knows it needs to come back.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Anyone here have Tinder?

Here are a few pics that I think you must have that worked for me.

- Natural shirtless pic- not in the mirror but out in the beach, or fishing or bbquing or whatever.

- Hobby pic - pic with guitar, pic playing basketball, pic painting etc

- Family pic - pic with family

- Bad ass casual clothing attire - could be with a casual blazer your wearing or a vest.

- Pics with Friends or buddies

- An adventure pic - you in the mountains or at a travel pic

- a spiritual meme or something hollistic - could be a picture of Buddha or your personal philosophy quote about life.

Then you must have a badass description....make it intriguing but also CHILL at the same time.

 

[SW15]

Bumble is hiring back Whitney Wolfe as CEO, after she about ran it into the ground which has to be the stupidest idea yet.

That is a bad idea. I have no idea why anyone thought that would be a good idea.

Match.com was created in 1995 and cultural trends tend to last about 30years. You are witnessing online dating coming to an end. It has ran its course.

Match launched in 1995 but it took a while to really get off the ground. It didn't have much growth until the 2002-2005 time period. Online dating was stigmatized for a long time.

 

[corrector]

Apps are soo bad now. Remember ten years ago..i would get a lot of matches. Nowadays....nothing much happens. They must be getting more greedy...constant notifications asking me to pay for things.

You just got older and are no longer a high tier guy like you were 10 years ago.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

The dating apps are designed to make people unsatisfied and pay and stay on them forever. Their scummy business models and anti customer practices will be the death of them. While i don't mind OLD myself, i wont miss it if it goes away, and i certainly won't miss all the complaining.

IG and other social media will probably displace OLD, if anything. But social media has stagnated too and i don't think any new platforms will ever be successful, every single new platform from the past decade had been a flop. Its hard to know what will happen. Its possible things like speed dating and local single events will make a comeback but i doubt it.

 

[Isildur1]

That is a bad idea. I have no idea why anyone thought that would be a good idea.



Match launched in 1995 but it took a while to really get off the ground. It didn't have much growth until the 2002-2005 time period. Online dating was stigmatized for a long time.

didnt bumbles stock price crash 90 percent? seems like its over for them

 

[SW15]

The dating apps are designed to make people unsatisfied and pay and stay on them forever.

Apps aren't meant for finding somewhat sustainable love. It's an achievement to even get a 1-2 year relationship off of an app.

There are many men and women who have bad experiences on apps. The bad experiences that they have on apps are different. Most men are invisible on apps. Most men struggle to arrange dates. It's also common for men to have a lot of "1-2 date, no sex, no extended relationship" type interactions off of apps.

A small percentage of men do quite well on apps, enjoying as much sex as they want from women. Some top tier men will be hyper efficient and hyper effective on the apps.

For women, the problem isn't getting dates or sex off of the apps. There are many examples of women who get a small to moderate amount of attention offline and then get a large amount of attention on the apps. While women can get more dates and more sex by using apps, they often don't feel satisfied with the overall outcomes off of the increased level of activity. Some women end up as penis carousel riders, getting sex from top tier men but not getting the extended relationships they desire.

Either way leads to dissatisfaction.

IG and other social media will probably displace OLD, if anything. But social media has stagnated too and i don't think any new platforms will ever be successful, every single new platform from the past decade had been a flop.

IG isn't a good format for the majority of men either.

To be successful in sending DMs on IG, a man needs....

• High quality photos and videos (this is also a swipe app issue for men)
• More Followers than accounts followed. Most men follow more accounts as compared to their number of Followers.
• A decent quantity of Followers. While something like 30 Followers while only following 15 accounts is a good ratio from the bullet point above, that Follower count isn't going to impress attractive women who typically have 1,000+ Followers.
• A public profile

Its hard to know what will happen. Its possible things like speed dating and local single events will make a comeback but i doubt it.

Unlikely. I see speed dating events and local single events popping up on my Instagram feed.

Simple Google searches reveal much bad feedback from previous event participants.

Are Structured Singles Events a Waste of Time?

Mostly every unattached person has dealt with this. The potential invitation to a "singles event" or "singles mixer". It is a chance for unattached people to meet. It's not a general night out at a bar, which has unattached people interspersed with attached people. Everyone here is unattached by...

www.sosuave.net

I think the word has gotten out that these types of events are unpleasant experiences for both sexes.

didnt bumbles stock price crash 90 percent?

Bumble and Match Group have both seen major stock price declines.

 

[Bingo-Player]

All the apps have serious issues within their core business models in the sense people are very tried of the experience and theres very little the operators can do to refresh it because fundamentally the concept of meeting strangers online that you have zero compatibility with has run its course

it was novel for about 5 years , then it hit saturation / mass adoption and now its in rapid decline and has been for a while

I don't really see them existing by 2030 without serious innovation

There is potential for very niche subculture type dating apps but I doubt theres enough money in them to Make them work

The current iterations of dating apps are clearly making last ditch attempts at cash grabbing

 

[jhonny9546]

Remember ten years ago

There is still a small percentage of higher tier men who continue to do well on the apps and seduce many women

maybe virginity will become a thing again

It's not just about dating apps; it's also about "where you play."
I'm sure you've had to deal with this at some point.


Imagine living in a city where getting fit and having a great body, then improving your appearance, doesn't really set you apart. Why? Because most men between 30 and 45 are all fit and at their aesthetic best in that city. If you were to put them all next to each other and take a picture, they would all appear very healthy and like "a" prize.

Now, imagine doing this in a city where, in that age group, there are men with bellies, holding cold beers and having bad breath. There, you become the big fish! You become the "real" prize.

Driving a Ferrari in Dubai is normal. However, driving a Ferrari in a country with a population of 50,000 people makes you stand out as part of the top 1%.

Life is also to choose between staying in the big pond as small fish or moving to a smaller pond and becoming a big fish. This has been the case since the dawn of humanity! You would be seen as an anomaly—a bit like this:

 

[Rainman4707]

You just got older and are no longer a high tier guy like you were 10 years ago.

Maybe it will get better. I've only been on a month and keep deleting it and reinstalling it so my girlfriend dosent see it on my phone. I've kept it on for a couple weeks now, so hopefully a few more matches will appear.

Still not to bothered. Streetgame is the best way.

 

[jhonny9546]

I would like to point out how easily girls want to be fked, and therefore will do it .. for anything, even when they are in a relationship, married, with children.
They will do it anyway, whether it's a kiss, secretly dating others, *******s, and various things.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

IG isn't a good format for the majority of men either.

To be successful in sending DMs on IG, a man needs....

• High quality photos and videos (this is also a swipe app issue for men)
• More Followers than accounts followed. Most men follow more accounts as compared to their number of Followers.
• A decent quantity of Followers. While something like 30 Followers while only following 15 accounts is a good ratio from the bullet point above, that Follower count isn't going to impress attractive women who typically have 1,000+ Followers.
• A public profile

Eh i don't think it's that hard, certainly no more effort required than than OLD or cold approaches and with a much higher ROI potential to boot. My IG only has about a dozen pics, with something like like 80 followers and 60 followees. I've had some success on it even with a profile as understated as mine. And if your purposely build it up, it absolutely will offer an ROI worth the effort. Its basically building passive leads like a marketing/networking funnel, except for thots.

Men here make it out to be a bigger deal than it is, just need some cool/interesting/flattering pics, which I will continue to emphasize here ad nauseum because i still firmly believe that most men who complain about OLD/SM have *awful* photos especially the reddit types who have selfies and other low effort/low value, unoriginal, NPC tier pics. Hell, even posting funny, top shelf memes on your stories can set you apart.

 

[soulforge]

I find apps are littered with single mothers, it's ****in depressing.

It's ok to meet girls to smash, but nothing beyond that.