The Fastest way to get laid with a lot of hot women within 1-2 years.

[Clockwerk50]

Ok if you're gonna get defensive and go off on tirades like a child I'll leave you to whatever this mess is.

He is indecisive. That’s why this thread is all over the place lmao.

 

[The_Sea_Wolf]

If Bob has a yacht, then he might be able to equalize the playing field a little bit.

The typical mid tier office worker (middle on both looks and money) is ignored on apps and ignored in real life. In my metro area, it would take a salary of at least $150,000 per year for an office worker to start getting attention from ladies (more like $175-200k) if his looks aren't top tier.

Money doesn't buy genuine desire, it can get a gold digger to try and manipulate you out of a bunch of your money, but it will not make her have genuine desire to **** you.

The caveat here being that your lifestyle and wealth may be the determining factor if a woman has two men she is interested in, and that simply boils down to having more fun with the man when she is with him which money makes a lot easier.

Your ability to woo a woman is entirely based on how you make her feel.

Where most men are ****ing this up is:

1. not taking good photos of themselves.
2. having a ****ty profile
3. being too demanding/coming off as needy
4. being creepy
5. offering up too much information

Your looks are less important than your confidence, a woman will date an ugly man who is confident AF and makes her feel right.

The thing to remember here is most women are bored, they get the same generic messages from men over and over again, the same comments over and over, just by changing up how you speak a bit, altering your vernacular and coming up with more interesting topics to talk about makes dating easy because you stand out from the crowd and excite her.

It literally costs nothing to do this.

 

[SW15]

Your ability to woo a woman is entirely based on how you make her feel.

This is VERY true, especially with Gen Y/Millennial women and Gen Z women.

Where most men are ****ing this up is:

1. not taking good photos of themselves.
2. having a ****ty profile
3. being too demanding/coming off as needy
4. being creepy
5. offering up too much information

Problems 1 and 2 are problems on swipe apps and Instagram (if a man wants to send DMs).

If a guy isn't active in those 2 formats, then he avoids those 2 specific problems. When men aren't doing swipe apps or sending DMs, the important factor becomes how they dress/present themselves when doing stranger approaches. The key is to look stylish in the venue of stranger approaches. That's a different look on a walking path/in the gym vs. in a nightlife venue.

Problems 3-5 are likely to emerge on app arranged first dates if they exist. In approaching, Problems 4-5 can happen as soon as a few minutes into an approach and #3 would be applicable on the first date or later.

The thing to remember here is most women are bored, they get the same generic messages from men over and over again, the same comments over and over, just by changing up how you speak a bit, altering your vernacular and coming up with more interesting topics to talk about makes dating easy because you stand out from the crowd and excite her.

It literally costs nothing to do this.

This is true. However, being 6'0"+ and fit/muscular gives you more leeway with this. A man doesn't need as much going for him on the personality side if his looks are good enough. However, personality can give some small assists in seduction. @BPH is a great example of this. He has shown in some field reports that his emotionally centered personality (where he doesn't let women's behavior affect his frame) has helped him seal the deal and get pussie. His 6'0" height and above average physique got him in the door and captured women's interest but without his frame, he would have been less likely to get same night sex/app arranged first date sex in some of these field reports.

Money doesn't buy genuine desire, it can get a gold digger to try and manipulate you out of a bunch of your money, but it will not make her have genuine desire to **** you.

The caveat here being that your lifestyle and wealth may be the determining factor if a woman has two men she is interested in, and that simply boils down to having more fun with the man when she is with him which money makes a lot easier.

The typical mid tier office worker doesn't offer enough to generate genuine desire. However, if he makes enough money, he'll get gold digger types who will give him sex. There are guys who make above average salaries who have enough possessions to get some women hot for them based on money/possessions.

Attraction and seduction come down to looks, money, status, and personality. Standing out to some degree with money (and possibly status) can offset some looks and personality mediocrity.

 

[The_Sea_Wolf]

Problems 1 and 2 are problems on swipe apps and Instagram (if a man wants to send DMs).

The swipe apps are an absolute waste of time, this is because there are dudes out there swiping right 100% of the time, considering that men outnumber women on those apps often 4-8:1 it means that a woman's feed is constantly full and when you consider the math of the situation, she is not even getting shown you to swipe back on you most of the time because she doesn't have hours a day to sit there and swipe through the 400 dudes who swiped right on her.

Instagram is another story, man I have had so much luck there, it isn't hard to get a woman to talk to me there but the problem most men face on IG is they are trying to talk to accounts that have 10k+ followers, those women aren't even checking their DM's or reading their comments.

When a woman has a smaller account and is local to me, I can usually at a minimum get a conversation going with her if she posts regularly, but the secret here is starting by commenting on what she is sharing and making it a genuinely interesting interaction to her before diving into DM's.

When she remembers your PFP from comments, she will read your DM.

This is true. However, being 6'0"+ and fit/muscular gives you more leeway with this. A man doesn't need as much going for him on the personality side if his looks are good enough. However, personality can give some small assists in seduction. @BPH is a great example of this. He has shown in some field reports that his emotionally centered personality (where he doesn't let women's behavior affect his frame) has helped him seal the deal and get pussie. His 6'0" height and above average physique got him in the door and captured women's interest but without his frame, he would have been less likely to get same night sex/app arranged first date sex in some of these field reports.

I am 6'1" and I used to power lift in high school, then was in the navy where I became an Aircrewman which means going through a lot of physical fitness training, and then after the military I have stayed incredibly strong doing physical jobs well into my 30's including running a welding shop for several years.

Being big and strong is great, but it can be a double edged sword, I am big enough and strong enough that people are scared of me when I do nothing, if I am in Seattle walking through a more residential neighborhood, grown ass men will cross the street if they are walking towards me.

Never mind the fact that I am well dressed, or that I am not behaving in a threatening manner, they are just scared of my size and strength.

It has actually made it harder for me meeting women in person because a woman who is 5'2" wearing 4" heels is still 7" shorter than me, 9" if I am wearing my cowboy boots.

My hands are so large I can literally catch a basketball by it's top.

When I go ashore and wind up in a public setting, especially say taking the light link rail or something like that, I can feel an awkward bubble pop up around myself, people will turn so their gaze will not meet mine, some will switch seats.

What is interesting is I can go out with a woman who is dressed with her tits hanging out, looking fine in something that hugs her curves, and she will notice how much less men look at her, how they are afraid to and what is interesting is they seem to enjoy that being the forbidden fruit that the weaker men are not allowed to look at.

But it does mean when I approach a woman in public it can also scare the **** out of her. And mind you I don't want this, it is just a function of my size and confidence.