Observations on Phoenix's Scene

[BeExcellent]

Ha! My best girlfriend got married at the 18th green of the TPC golf course last year. They are at their home in FL this week/weekend to avoid all the idiots, and there are lots of idiots. Last night on the way home from business travel some nitwits had wrecked on the 101 loop (the highway runs between the golf course and Old Town Scottsdale) and the whole highway was at a standstill. Huge police presence.

All the nightlife venues in the East Valley will be packed, two good places to go are the Bird's Nest (a pop up nightclub & concert venue right by the golf course, which gets current major recording artists in a smaller live music venue). This years line up includes Jellyroll, Nickelback & Tiesto so it will have a young hip vibe. It will also be expensive. The other place to be is the Talking Stick casino. They will be packed and have live music, gaming, and a sports book (it is also Super Bowl weekend) so they will be rocking.

Winter is lots to do here. In November you have the Bentley Polo Event, In January you have the Scottsdale Arabian Horse show followed by Barrett Jackson (these are all cool events I have attended), in February you have Phoenix Open. Then later this month MLB Cactus League Spring Training starts up. Those are fun events to attend. I love MLB so its cool to go and there can be opportunities to meet girls at those games because its a cool relaxed vibe with all age ranges present.

We are getting out of town for the craziness this weekend. My husband has an event elsewhere and I don't like dealing with the jackasses and drunks here. I was invited to the Open this year by a couple of friend groups. I declined. It's too crowded and rowdy for my taste. I can enjoy better drinks and a refined environment elsewhere.

 

[SW15]

My best girlfriend got married at the 18th green of the TPC golf course last year. They are at their home in FL this week/weekend to avoid all the idiots, and there are lots of idiots. Last night on the way home from business travel some nitwits had wrecked on the 101 loop (the highway runs between the golf course and Old Town Scottsdale) and the whole highway was at a standstill. Huge police presence.

There are lots of idiots is a very important sentence. From my experience living in Metro Phoenix, I felt that Metro Phoenix does idiocy better than most places. This weekend is the high point of idiocy, only exceeded by the years that both the Super Bowl and Phoenix Open are going on concurrently.

It can be difficult to discern out of town idiots vs. local resident idiots.

As someone who has traveled on Loop 101 many times during my residency in Metro Phoenix, I can only imagine how unpleasant that must have been.

I'm also aware that Loop 101 has been widened in spots since I moved away. Even though I moved away, I have returned periodically on recreational vacations.

I don't like dealing with the jackasses and drunks here. I was invited to the Open this year by a couple of friend groups. I declined. It's too crowded and rowdy for my taste. I can enjoy better drinks and a refined environment elsewhere.

You have a good perspective on it. Plenty of places have a far more refined environment than the Phoenix Open.

It seems like it is the opposite of refined.

All the nightlife venues in the East Valley will be packed

The nightlife venues would be an opportunity for same night sex. For a man, the same night sex could happen with a local resident or an out-of-towner in for the tournament. I'm not sure how many women seeking new penis would travel to Phoenix/Scottsdale for the Phoenix Open. There are rumors that some bachelorette parties attend the Phoenix Open.

Phoenix/Scottsdale is somewhat of a destination for Girls Trips and bachelorette trips. Both Girls Trips and bachelorette parties are opportunities for sexual flings for women.

I'm not sure daygame is affected much by the Open itself. The 16th hole itself isn't pure daygame, it's more like a nightclub environment during daylight hours, similar to commercialized pool parties attached to a business. This forum has a good pool parties thread.

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Standard daygame venues like hiking trails, malls, and grocery stores are not likely to be as affected by the tournament. Daygame is also better for local men seeking local women for extended interactions whereas nightlife is better suited for same night sex that can happen with tourists.

Talking Stick casino.

Talking Stick opened around the time I moved away. I have never been.

In the summer, Talking Stick has a reputation for its commercialized pool parties (see above thread).

Winter is lots to do here. In November you have the Bentley Polo Event, In January you have the Scottsdale Arabian Horse show followed by Barrett Jackson (these are all cool events I have attended), in February you have Phoenix Open. Then later this month MLB Cactus League Spring Training starts up. Those are fun events to attend. I love MLB so its cool to go and there can be opportunities to meet girls at those games because its a cool relaxed vibe with all age ranges present.

I have been to Spring Training games in Metro Phoenix. It is enjoyable. I agree that it is possible to meet women at a Spring Training game. It's a more relaxed vibe there than a Diamondbacks regular season game at Chase Field during the heat of summer with the roof closed. Spectator sports in general aren't good ways to meet women (sausage fest among attendees) but it can happen.

The Arabian Horse Show sounds like an interesting way to meet women. It's a smaller event than the Phoenix Open and far fewer idiots.

 

[BeExcellent]

NASCAR and NHRA are also both in Phoenix Metro. I really enjoy the drag races. You can get over in the pits and watch them work over the cars between passes. The professionals will chat with you & everyone mingles and is cool. A couple of years ago the husband got a photo with Brittany Force, which was fun. The Street Outlaws also hold track events in PHX and those are cool. I'm a car girl so I really enjoy all that. Easy to start up convos at the drag races although less unattached women. NASCAR forget it. You need earphones to protect your hearing & you can barely hear yourself think. Its shake your skeleton LOUD.

Women LOVE horses and the Arabians are beautiful. Those are high barrier to entry events on the private side. Serious money in Arabians. The show itself is open to the public and is well attended. Dress well and have some class. Its a more elegant event than anything else in the valley social calendar, but women go.

 

[SW15]

Women LOVE horses and the Arabians are beautiful. Those are high barrier to entry events on the private side. Serious money in Arabians. The show itself is open to the public and is well attended. Dress well and have some class. Its a more elegant event than anything else in the valley social calendar, but women go.

Is this the kind of event that would draw women in their 20s? I find it difficult to imagine that it would. When I lived in Metro Phoenix, I was a 20 something male pursuing 20 something females. At the time, I was unaware of this event but it has been an event that has happened for around 70 years. It's an event that was happening when I lived there.

One event I did a few times that I found disappointing was Scottsdale's ArtWalk. That was the Thursday night event at the art galleries near Old Town Scottsdale. It's a thing that has been going on since the 1970s. ArtWalk drew in an older crowd when I went. I could imagine ArtWalk possibly working for older men pursuing older women (at least 35+ women). When I went, I didn't see much in the way of younger women.

I could imagine the Arabian Horse Show being much like ArtWalk. The Arabian Horse Show could be good for meeting 30 something and older women.

I'm a car girl so I really enjoy all that. Easy to start up convos at the drag races although less unattached women.

Women who have automotive interests and go to automotive events will be popular with men.

Automotive events tend to be a bit of a sausage fest in general. Ratios would be challenging.

I agree that it would be easy for conversations to happen at the majority of automotive events.

 

[BeExcellent]

You'd be surprised at the horse show. There are lots of older women with money....but they have daughters who go. You'll also see friends of the daughters & participants, stable hands, grooms, vets, artists & merchants who are at times younger. It is an international crowd and a higher eschelon of people generally. No riff raff to speak of. People are warm & pretty open if your energy is cool. The horses are magnificent. But cheesy pick up lines are not going to be well recieved & it is extremely unlikely to develop into a same day sex thing. Women there will be paying attention to appearances as its a tight knit community.

Near our home are a number of well known Arabian show stables. When we walk we go past some & have met some horse people that way. Very nice people; very worldly/sophisticated.

For 20s guys I'd say Spring Training and ASU events. The Suns games are also fun and lots of younger people go.

 

[SW15]

You'd be surprised at the horse show. There are lots of older women with money....but they have daughters who go. You'll also see friends of the daughters & participants, stable hands, grooms, vets, artists & merchants who are at times younger. It is an international crowd and a higher eschelon of people generally. No riff raff to speak of. People are warm & pretty open if your energy is cool. The horses are magnificent. But cheesy pick up lines are not going to be well recieved & it is extremely unlikely to develop into a same day sex thing. Women there will be paying attention to appearances as its a tight knit community.

At my current age, if I still lived there, I could see the Arabian Horse Show being an enjoyable event with some potential for finding dates.

For 20s guys I'd say Spring Training and ASU events.

I think Mill Avenue is better for earlier 20s guys (up to about 25-26). It's good to be slightly older than the women who go to the bars. Mill is even better for those who are Arizona State students (undergrad or graduate) or recent Arizona State alumni.

Old Town Scottsdale nightlife is better for men by later 20s. It does require a little bit more money/status than Mill Avenue. Looks are #1 but money/status are relevant there.