Girl won't swallow/spit but open to creampie

[Divorced w 3]

You don't know anything about me.


There fixed it for you.


I noticed in every post, you say this. This tells me that you have a history of women ending $hit with you. In your mind, you already know is gonna end, because that's familiar to you, because it happens every time with you, you know for a fact it will end and you say it repeat so you can finally accept it. Men who are winners don't think that. Do a self assessment on why that is, fix yourself before trying to fix other people. Always happy to help.

You gotta understand it’s going to raise more than a few eyebrows of the quality of your advice that you are here on your third or fourth handle in like 18 months Do you really want to be the next @Sega Genesis. You can’t say that you’re alpha and opinions don’t matter and then be trying multiple to recreate your image on an anonymous message board. Do I strike you as giving g half a fvck what anyone thinks around here, at least sega is a chick and can blame it on daddy issues, emotional instability, being a catfish, whatever her excuse is but you my man, you need to be what you are telling others to be

 

[Lotus Effect]

You don't know anything about me.

Don't know, and don't care.

Let me help you out brother:

You are not the ultimate badazz
You are not the center of the universe
The world does not give two flying fvcks about you nor your opinion

I'll say it over, stop giving terrible advice. Go read.

As I told you, you just got here. Learn to respect your better.

And take a seat in the backseat junior!

 

[Divorced w 3]

Don't know, and don't care.

Let me help you out brother:

You are not the ultimate badazz
You are not the center of the universe
The world does not give two flying fvcks about you nor your opinion

I'll say it over, stop giving terrible advice. Go read.

As I told you, you just got here. Learn to respect your better.

And take a seat in the backseat junior!

The quality of your advice isn’t the hottest either.

 

[New_Journey]

You gotta understand it’s going to raise more than a few eyebrows of the quality of your advice that you are here on your third or fourth handle in like 18 months Do you really want to be the next @Sega Genesis

Don't know who that guy is and frankly don't care. I give advice based on what I've seen throughout my dating life and what has worked for me. I don't even know why you're arguing with me when our advice is the same, do it without asking her.

You are not the ultimate badazz
You are not the center of the universe
The world does not give two flying fvcks about you nor your opinion

That's good, people should be able to challenge everyone's advice, try the one that they want and then report back.

And take a seat in the backseat junior!

The quality of your advice isn’t the hottest either.

hahaha

 

[Divorced w 3]

Don't know who that guy is and frankly don't care. I give advice based on what I've seen throughout my dating life and what has worked for me. I don't even know why you're arguing with me when our advice is the same, do it without asking her.


That's good, people should be able to challenge everyone's advice, try the one that they want and then report back.



hahaha

Because you speak dismissively and authoritatively and nobody who is on their third or so handle in 1.5 years has any right to do that. You also are dishing out legitimately bad advice telling him to toss her and that communication is irrelevant. If you don’t like my feedback ignore me. I’m not going to haunt you with a new account I promise.

 

[New_Journey]

telling him to toss her

He made a thread asking for advice on cvmming on her mouth, therefore its bothering him otherwise he wouldn't have made it in the first place, my advice is simple, if that's something he wants to do and she doesn't want it, he should toss her away and find another woman who wants to do it.

communication is irrelevant.

It is irrelevant. He communicated his needs many times, are you even paying attention to the topic or are you just typing whatever nonsense you think will sound cool?

She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time". I bought it for awhile but it's now been months, so I am just starting to question the behavior.

What more communication you want from him to her? You want him to get on his knees and "communicate"? You're totally clueless man.

 

[Divorced w 3]

He made a thread asking for advice on cvmming on her mouth, therefore its bothering him otherwise he wouldn't have made it in the first place, my advice is simple, if that's something he wants to do and she doesn't want it, he should toss her away and find another woman who wants to do it.


It is irrelevant. He communicated his needs many times, are you even paying attention to the topic or are you just typing whatever nonsense you think will sound cool?


What more communication you want from him to her? You want him to get on his knees and "communicate"? You're totally clueless man.

You don’t ever stop communicating and you don’t throw chicks out for lack of your own bedroom presence. This is the real world not your favorite red pill YouTube blogger that’s married and doesn’t take his own recommendations. Besides if she is a plate why does it even matter isn’t there another one? Oops. Go call @Rollo Tomassi and let me know how to handle that

 

[SW15]

It’s not significant sexual incompatibility. It’s significant overthinking on his end.

There's a chance that it is overthinking. Regardless of what it is, it is doubtful this arrangement continues much longer because she's a plate and he's not going to upgrade her to monogamous girlfriend status. That would happen regardless of where his loads go when he orgasms via oral sex.

the red pill early frame announcement , I can’t even picture that where you tell a girl before you hook up oh by the way boundary for me is that you have to take my load in your mouth. I have said some brazen stuff over the years , actually I don’t know I could actually probably pull that off but it’s all in the delivery

Yes, it is all in the delivery. In general, I don't think men do well about talking about sex prior to having sex. That can make an impact on the quality of sex.

 

[New_Journey]

You don’t ever stop communicating

Women respond to consequences, the communication you say is for females not for men. Men state what they want once, if she doesn't comply, he finds someone who will.

Besides if she is a plate why does it even matter isn’t there another one?

You still don't get it.

She is NOT the plate, he is. If he had 2 other women slurping his cvm like a baja blast, do you think he will waste time with this one who makes all these BS excuses like "let's do it next time", "next time" He is more into her that she into him, therefore the only way to get what he want with this chick is being more dominant, going for what he wants, and if she doesn't comply, next.

You say don't throw her away cause she's having sex, any women can give you sex, only men with no abundance mentality will think like that. If you're not getting what you want, you don't spend time communicating. Acta non verba.

Let's agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Divorced w 3]

There's a chance that it is overthinking. Regardless of what it is, it is doubtful this arrangement continues much longer because she's a plate and he's not going to upgrade her to monogamous girlfriend status. That would happen regardless of where his loads go when he orgasms via oral sex.



Yes, it is all in the delivery. In general, I don't think men do well about talking about sex prior to having sex. That can make an impact on the quality of sex.

You should not ever talk about sex before having it. Sex happens for her in the mind and when it is spoken out loud it better be after not before. You anchor her into your frame by banging her right the first time and a massive part of that is not speaking it and blowing the surprise.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Women respond to consequences, the communication you say is for females not for men. Men state what they want once, if she doesn't comply, he finds someone who will.


You still don't get it.

She is NOT the plate, he is. If he had 2 other women slurping his cvm like a baja blast, do you think he will waste time with this one who makes all these BS excuses like "let's do it next time", "next time" He is more into her that she into him, therefore the only way to get what he want with this chick is being more dominant, going for what he wants, and if she doesn't comply, next.

You say don't throw her away cause she's having sex, any women can give you sex, only men with no abundance mentality will think like that. If you're not getting what you want, you don't spend time communicating. Acta non verba.

Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I’m not tapping out on this just because you are. Your advice doesn’t even follow its own progression. Focus on him, not her, for starters. He calls her a plate then by definition bang her like the ho she is. Do not nit pick she is for recreational use only. Absolutely retarded to say ok well someone who doesn’t mean anything to me anyway I’m just going to stop hooking up. Do you hear yourself out loud? You want to have casual sex and then you stop having it because of a partner’s preference? If he has no other options now he’s getting no action at all? Your account should be revoked you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

 

[New_Journey]

You should not ever talk about sex before having it

Why? Have you tried it? Have you rocked the boat while being in a date? Have you asked her, how good you fvck? Cause I'm only interested in women who fvck good.

Men who don't care what women say seriously get everything from women. You think she will be offended, she might not like it, but who gives a fvck when getting women is easy?
When a guy has true abundance, women pick on that $hit really quick and you'll be surprised of how they act.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Why? Have you tried it? Have you rocked the boat while being in a date? Have you asked her, how good you fvck? Cause I'm only interested in women who fvck good.

Men who don't care what women say seriously get everything from women. You think she will be offended, she might not like it, but who gives a fvck when getting women is easy?
When a guy has true abundance, women pick on that $hit really quick and you'll be surprised of how they act.

You dope. Being dirty and provocative is one thing. Talking about your sexual preferences like a post mortem is a major turn off.

 

[New_Journey]

Focus on him, not her

You want to have casual sex and then you stop having it because of a partner’s preference?

The thread is him wanting to cvm in her mouth, not sex. You are projecting your desires, and your wants, not what he wants, that's how I know you're clueless. I'm tapping out, you win.

 

[Divorced w 3]

The thread is him wanting to cvm in her mouth, not sex. You are projecting your desires, and your wants, not what he wants, that's how I know you're clueless. I'm tapping out, you win.

Good move. You told the guy to toss her bc she won’t let him bust in her mouth, you should take a couple days off

 

[SW15]

You should not ever talk about sex before having it. Sex happens for her in the mind and when it is spoken out loud it better be after not before. You anchor her into your frame by banging her right the first time and a massive part of that is not speaking it and blowing the surprise.

This is a really good topic that is rarely discussed on this forum.

I have had some sexual talk prior to sex with some women, not as much with others.

If a guy is having sex with a woman for the first time somewhere between Dates 1-3, how much talk can possibly happen on sex?

If a guy is having sex with a woman on the same night after a bar approach, there are no in depth sex conversations.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is a really good topic that is rarely discussed on this forum.

I have had some sexual talk prior to sex with some women, not as much with others.

If a guy is having sex with a woman for the first time somewhere between Dates 1-3, how much talk can possibly happen on sex?

If a guy is having sex with a woman on the same night after a bar approach, there are no in depth sex conversations.

Allan Roger Currie, the king of the short term hookup, wrote the manga carta on this called Mode One. It’s a goldmine.

 

[SW15]

Allan Roger Currie, the king of the short term hookup, wrote the manga carta on this called Mode One. It’s a goldmine.

I haven't read Mode One. I have read a lot of seduction material over time, but never Mode One.

I don't recall Rollo Tomassi ever directly addressing this topic.

In shorter term hookups, talking about sex is likely less of a priority.

Some men give an Early Frame Announcement for a longer term interaction. In that case, it might be more useful. However, talking/communication in general is one of those things that is hyped in the blue pill ideology. The fact that it is hyped in blue pill ideology damages it. There are times where communication can be helpful. The blue pill POV on talking is a half truth at best.

 

[plumber]

I haven't read Mode One. I have read a lot of seduction material over time, but never Mode One.

Its a good read, the logic in it is difficult to disagree with.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I haven't read Mode One. I have read a lot of seduction material over time, but never Mode One.

I don't recall Rollo Tomassi ever directly addressing this topic.

In shorter term hookups, talking about sex is likely less of a priority.

Some men give an Early Frame Announcement for a longer term interaction. In that case, it might be more useful. However, talking/communication in general is one of those things that is hyped in the blue pill ideology. The fact that it is hyped in blue pill ideology damages it. There are times where communication can be helpful. The blue pill POV on talking is a half truth at best.

I would read Mode One. I only read it a couple years ago, I really enjoyed it because I have always enjoyed the dynamics involved in sexual chemistry. From my earliest memories of taking on the phone in grammar school with all the girls in class who wanted to visualize sex, fingering my mothers friends daughter in the park in high school and on, there’s always been the consistency that the allusion of sexual activity with innuendo, the physical touch, the right posture and demeanor that exudes it without saying it, it all plays a part. If she tries to open up that line of dialogue up, for instance on a phone call you flip it into phone sex. In person you should always be escalating. It’s push pull, nothing more or less. It works every single time. If she doesn’t put out then move on. Banging her right will push a hookup much further than it’s normal timeline, for better or worse