Girl won't swallow/spit but open to creampie

[Divorced w 3]

You should be able to have an open conversation about your s*xual needs as desires.

Yes, you should. You should be able to feel open and comfortable in the privacy of your bedroom with your partner that person may not agree and be interested in everything you’re doing but a true partner at least allow you to talk about what’s on your mind.

 

[New_Journey]

I would & have said: ‘goodbye’.

Exactly.

 

[New_Journey]

open conversation about your s*xual needs as desires

You should be able to feel open and comfortable in the privacy of your bedroom with your partner

I disagree 100%. Conversation doesn't fix anything.

WTF are you gonna say "Hey I want blow jobs, hey I want anal, hey I want to cvm in your mouth" That's so fvcking weak and pathetic. Its like asking permission from mommy. Women are not men, women respond to masculinity, men go for what they want without asking for permission, they risk rejection, they do not fear what she may say or think. Only guys who are afraid of her emotions will resort to conversation first.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I've been seeing a plate for a few months now.

We hook up quite often. She's very wild in bed and has an IUD in her.

She's always begging me to *** in her during sex but she is never comfortable and refuses to allow me to *** in her mouth or on her face.

I used to think a girl who refuses to allow you to *** in any certain way, probly does not like you enough.

But with this girl, she loves to make me *** and make me creampie her. It's just face and mouth are off limits.

I tried to ask why but she would always come up with really weird excuses and is just very resistant.

Have any of you guys encountered this situation before?

Does it mean she doesn't like me enough?

How can I get her to do it? (It's something I really enjoy).

I don’t think swallow is related to Creampie in any way. Most girls I’ve been with want creampies. Not as many want a mouthful of j:zz.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I disagree 100%. Conversation doesn't fix anything.

WTF are you gonna say "Hey I want blow jobs, hey I want anal, hey I want to cvm in your mouth" That's so fvcking weak and pathetic. Its like asking permission from mommy. Women are not men, women respond to masculinity, men go for what they want without asking for permission, they risk rejection, they do not fear what she may say or think. Only guys who are afraid of her emotions will resort to conversation first.

My guy. I never said I ask first when I’m in bed, the d1ck goes where it wants and then it learns and then it runs up against the fence again 5x more times like a Jurassic park raptor. I said you should be able to have open communication with your partner. You can’t catch this smoke kid. I’m on insta right now flirting with a miss America contestant

 

[New_Journey]

I never said I ask first when I’m in bed

We agree on that.

I said you should be able to have open communication with your partner.

Whenever you communicate your sexual needs, you're either whining or trying to manipulate. Never works. Negotiating desire only leads to obligated compliance.

I’m on insta right now flirting with a miss America contestant

Really dude? Is that supposed to be something to admire you? Cause in reality you're just another orbiter giving attention for some dopamine hit and nothing more. Come on man wtf

 

[Divorced w 3]

We agree on that.



Whenever you communicate your sexual needs, you're either whining or trying to manipulate. Never works




Really dude? Is that supposed to be something to admire you? Cause in reality you're just another orbiter giving attention for some dopamine hit ans nothing more. Come on man wtf

You gonna take that back when I post the chat setting a date and getting her phone number? There’s always someone at this game who’s better than you. It’s a fact of life. I’m better than you, a lot of guys here are better than me. You come in with a really dismissive attitude and guys here need to hear from people that can actually back up what they’re talking about. I’m that guy, you are not. If you were, you wouldn’t have changed handles three times. In one of your former incarnations you spoke about steroid induced erectile dysfunctional issues so I don’t even understand why you’re in this conversation. You should change your handle from new journey to ‘newest profile ’

 

[New_Journey]

You gonna take that back when I post the chat setting a date and getting her phone number?

I thought you were gonna brag with naked pictures that she sent you or video of you fvcking her hahahaha you're hilarious. It this really the kind of guy giving advice in a seduction forum?

I remember in high school (2007) we bragged with pictures or videos between the guys, now its with her phone number? Wow the standard has really gone to $hit..

It’s a fact of life. I’m better than you

Press X for doubt

a lot of guys here are better than me.

Definitely agree on this one

steroid induced erectile dysfunctional

Yeah that $hit was crazy, never crash your esterogen. If you need more info how to use them healthy and effectively. PM me bro, I'm always open to help. OP, didn't mean to derail the topic, good luck.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I've been with a few women that didn't want to swallow, and in one case I egged her on to try it, and she just ended up choked and coughing...definitely unusual, but it happens. Btw, it doesn't mean she's not a hoe, it might just mean she's too lazy to have ever learned how, or maybe she genuinely can't surpress her gag reflex. It's a shame because my loads are fvcking massive and it's so hot to see them swallow it all, but it's by no means a dealbreaker.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I've been with a few women that didn't want to swallow, and in one case I egged her on to try it, and she just ended up choked and coughing...definitely unusual, but it happens. Btw, it doesn't mean she's not a hoe, it might just mean she's too lazy to have ever learned how, or maybe she genuinely can't surpress her gag reflex. It's a shame because my loads are fvcking massive and it's so hot to see them swallow it all, but it's by no means a dealbreaker.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I thought you were gonna brag with naked pictures that she sent you or video of you fvcking her hahahaha you're hilarious. It this really the kind of guy giving advice in a seduction forum?

I remember in high school (2007) we bragged with pictures or videos between the guys, now its with her phone number? Wow the standard has really gone to $hit..


Press X for doubt


Definitely agree on this one


Yeah that $hit was crazy, never crash your esterogen. If you need more info how to use them healthy and effectively. PM me bro, I'm always open to help. OP, didn't mean to derail the topic, good luck.

That’s a good point - if you have some pics of someone you’re nailing recently you’re free to share. I have one ready to go with a timestamp on the front of it. It’s four weeks old, I can get one tonight or tomorrow though live action. You wanna put up or shut up? I will let it slide that your post is heavily edited way after you wrote it

 

[jamesfromhouston]

Thanks for everyone's response.

In my own experience, I can't even remember ever seeing a girl who was not open to letting me finish on her face or in her mouth (whether spit or swallow). It's just a natural thing to do when she is already giving you a BJ. Most girls who are into me in the past, have done everything to please me, but then there is this "mixed sexual signals girl".

She hasn't outright said she won't do it. She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time". I bought it for awhile but it's now been months, so I am just starting to question the behavior. It just sits weirdly because she loves to make me *** and wants me to do it inside her, or just stroke it out of me but it just cannot go anywhere near her face. What's even funnier is I thought maybe she had something against tasting *** but she always sucks me clean after making a mess inside her.

Reading everyone's views, I think my conflict boils down to what @New_Journey & @Divorced w 3 have laid out:

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

As for @The Duke you're somewhat right, she has been giving me a lot of LTR talk vibes recently/indirectly but nothing substantial. Despite being a plate, I treat her well. We have a mix of fun non-sexual moments. As for giving her the big O. She always Os with me in bed. She enjoys herself.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Thanks for everyone's response.

In my own experience, I can't even remember ever seeing a girl who was not open to letting me finish on her face or in her mouth (whether spit or swallow). It's just a natural thing to do when she is already giving you a BJ. Most girls who are into me in the past, have done everything to please me, but then there is this "mixed sexual signals girl".

She hasn't outright said she won't do it. She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time". I bought it for awhile but it's now been months, so I am just starting to question the behavior. It just sits weirdly because she loves to make me *** and wants me to do it inside her, or just stroke it out of me but it just cannot go anywhere near her face. What's even funnier is I thought maybe she had something against tasting *** but she always sucks me clean after making a mess inside her.

Reading everyone's views, I think my conflict boils down to what @New_Journey & @Divorced w 3 have laid out:

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

As for @The Duke you're somewhat right, she has been giving me a lot of LTR talk vibes recently/indirectly but nothing substantial. Despite being a plate, I treat her well. We have a mix of fun non-sexual moments. As for giving her the big O. She always Os with me in bed. She enjoys herself.

Just don’t tell her you’re about to bust and then finish / the thing I do agree is you always do what you want. Much more often than not if you’re into it she’s going to be into it. If she pulls back you try it like 5-20 more times here and there and see if she really means it. She will probably end up letting you bust in her mouth and then she will spit it out.

Where you went wrong is telling her you were going to bust the first time. Just do what you want.

You can expand your horizons with her without giving her girlfriend status.

Always ignore that red pill incel on your shoulder also.

 

[New_Journey]

In my own experience, I can't even remember ever seeing a girl who was not open to letting me finish on her face or in her mouth (whether spit or swallow). It's just a natural thing to do when she is already giving you a BJ. Most girls who are into me in the past, have done everything to please me, but then there is this "mixed sexual signals girl".

You noticed that they were into you, because you were not into them, so you were acting alpha, cvming in her mouth without giving a fvck what they thought. With this girl you like her more, and you are into her more than she is into you because you don't notice she's that into you.

Do less, so you can see more. All women are wh0res inside of them, be the guy who let that wh0re out for yourself

She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time"

She's telling you to do it, how can you not see it? Read between the lines "I want you to do it without asking me"

And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone

Girls break rules for Alphas and make them for Betas. Take what is rightfully yours, she's there to please you, sex is your reward for her. Men today think making a girl angry, crying, or uncomfortable is a sin.

If you wanna see how she sees you, next time when you're kissing and ready to go, tell her "I don't wanna fvck, give me a blow job come here" If she sees you as Alpha she will please you, if she sees you as Beta, she will protest and won't do it. If she does, cvm in her mouth without telling her, be okay with being an a$$hole, girls love a$$holes. She is yours to take, not the other way around.

 

[SW15]

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

Either way, this is a significant sexual incompatibility that is not likely to get resolved.

Fortunately, you have abundance. You are good enough at seduction (mainly from night game) to find another woman in a short amount of time.

This is a plate and not an LTR. You haven't committed to her and she hasn't been a part of your life for long. As a plate, she was likely to break anyway within a few months.

In the future, you need to have a stronger Early Frame Announcement with what's sexually important to you. Ideally, you do this prior to sex.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I don't want to be the a hole in this conversation, but this thread has become the most ridiculous thread ever.

What is this, a c0ck competition?

@New_Journey

Were you not the guy who was all heartbroken just the other day? Take a chill pill bruv!
You don't have to come across as the ultimate badazz over the internet to a bunch of random dudes.

And please stop giving terrible advice. You just got here. Go do some reading.
You're too uptight, and too damn red pilled. Chillax

@jamesfromhouston

It's okay bro, some chicks dig it, some chicks don't.

It is pretty straightforward.

Some will rather ride, some will rather doggie. Some will do an4l, some won't.

Some will wan't creampie, and some will demonish it.

For instance, I dated a chick for 5 years, five, she had a IUD, and she would go for the load anywhere but inside.
Then I dated a chick for 6 months, she had nothing, and she would let me load whenever I want, mouth, azz, puzzy. face... you name it
The one I'm doing right now is obssesed with swallowing it. She won't let me do anywhere but her throat.

It all depends, just go with the flow, and don't think too much of it. It doesn't matter.

As long as you're not cvmming in a tissue, you're already one step ahead.

And pro tip; enjoy while it lasts.

Cheers

 

[SW15]

I dated a chick for 5 years, five, she had a IUD, and she would go for the load anywhere but inside.

If she has an IUD, one would think she would want ejaculations inside her vagina.

And pro tip; enjoy while it lasts.

This is good. I don't think @jamesfromhouston should necessarily walk away over this sexual incompatibility. He said she's wild in bed overall. She's just a plate and it would naturally break anyway within a few months. A lot of women do push for commitment after some time.

I think he's getting to ejaculate in the better hole anyway.

There is something satisfying about receiving oral and the woman swallowing. I don't think that's as good as ejaculating in the vagina.

 

[New_Journey]

And please stop giving terrible advice. You just got here. Go do some reading.
You're too uptight, and too damn red pilled. Chillax

You don't know anything about me.

It's okay bro, some chicks who really like you, dig it, some chicks who don't like you, don't.

There fixed it for you.

enjoy while it lasts.

I noticed in every post, you say this. This tells me that you have a history of women ending $hit with you. In your mind, you already know is gonna end, because that's familiar to you, because it happens every time with you, you know for a fact it will end and you say it repeat so you can finally accept it. Men who are winners don't think that. Do a self assessment on why that is, fix yourself before trying to fix other people. Always happy to help.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Either way, this is a significant sexual incompatibility that is not likely to get resolved.

Fortunately, you have abundance. You are good enough at seduction (mainly from night game) to find another woman in a short amount of time.

This is a plate and not an LTR. You haven't committed to her and she hasn't been a part of your life for long. As a plate, she was likely to break anyway within a few months.

In the future, you need to have a stronger Early Frame Announcement with what's sexually important to you. Ideally, you do this prior to sex.

No. Bad advice. It’s not significant sexual incompatibility. It’s significant overthinking on his end. Bust in her mouth next time she is down on him. Don’t tell her it’s about to happen. What is she going to do, walk out? Of course not. Is she going to stop blowing him? Maybe but probably not. It is so ridiculous to throw a woman out of your life because she doesn’t take it in the mouth. It’s his fault not hers. If she stops blowing him he should report back. I will bet you a dollar she just starts spitting into a napkin. And the red pill early frame announcement , I can’t even picture that where you tell a girl before you hook up oh by the way boundary for me is that you have to take my load in your mouth. I have said some brazen stuff over the years , actually I don’t know I could actually probably pull that off but it’s all in the delivery

 

[Lotus Effect]

If she has an IUD, one would think she would want ejaculations inside her vagina.

Tell me about it... I was there for five years hahaha

I think he's getting to ejaculate in the better hole anyway.

There is something satisfying about receiving oral and the woman swallowing. I don't think that's as good as ejaculating in the vagina.

Agreed!