She has a crazy ex

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I met this chick once and we made out.
We where supposed to meet today and then she sends me this telling me she can’t make it today.
How would you respond?
I don’t really care since we only met once but these women are crazy.
I hate unreliable people.
She’s young and looks very good though
 

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If you can't handle crazy, don't get involved with crazy. Especially when you think you can handle crazy. Just don't. It's rarely worth it.
 

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I met this chick once and we made out.
We where supposed to meet today and then she sends me this telling me she can’t make it today.
How would you respond?
I don’t really care since we only met once but these women are crazy.
I hate unreliable people.
She’s young and looks very good though
Possibilities:

1. The vase might have been broken by accident and she used it as an excuse to not meet with you.

2. She intentionally broke the vase to make this excuse to not meet up with you.

3. Her ex did break it. Indicative of the guys she dated in the past.

Either way it is bad news for you.

My advice will be not to engage with her even if she comes to you.
 

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It's simply a BS excuse. Notice how she never asked to reschedule the date.

She flaked on you but made it sound good...she expects you to understand she isn't interested.

It's happened to me a bunch of times in the past. Some weird, stupid excuse out of the blue. All of them were simply ways of her saying she isn't interested.
 

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I met this chick once and we made out.
We where supposed to meet today and then she sends me this telling me she can’t make it today.
How would you respond?
I don’t really care since we only met once but these women are crazy.
I hate unreliable people.
She’s young and looks very good though
This lacks context.

Did she tell you couldn't make it and THEN sent you this? Or did she just send you this for you to put 2 and 2 together so that she couldn't make it?

A crazy ex is a red flag, a crazy girl pretending she has an ex to avoid seeing you is a redder flag. If you want to keep this going I would just show some sympathy and look to reschedule. She'll either show up, flake again, or decline to reschedule.
 

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Eject.

1. still in touch ( pun intended) with her ex. What was he was doing there? This alone can be an entire book.
2. No counter offer. This is what we call a soft next
3. It's a silent threat. She basically warns you that her ex won't think twice to use violence.
4. Ofcourse it tells something about her. Needless to say imo. She loves drama

You say she is crazy unreliable but yet she is also " young and fine". Personally I don't care if its the hottest woman on earth ,I'm out. Heck, the hotter she is the more reluctant I'll be when the well-known " crazy ex" appears. The easiest way for a ( desperate) man to regain some dominance back is by fighting other men. He'll use you as a pawn in his imagery chess game.
 
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I won't respond to that message, and will let her go. Unless she reaches out to me again, in which case I would arrange a meeting and proceed to plan (but never take things seriously with her).
 

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Eject.

1. still in touch ( pun intended) with her ex. What was he was doing there? This alone can be an entire book.
2. No counter offer. This is what we call a soft next
3. It's a silent threat. She basically warns you that her ex won't think twice to use violence.
4. Ofcourse it tells something about her. Needless to say imo. She loves drama

You say she is crazy unreliable but yet she is also " young and fine". Personally I don't care if its the hottest woman on earth ,I'm out. Heck, the hotter she is the more reluctant I'll be when the well-known " crazy ex" appears. The easiest way for a ( desperate) man to regain some dominance back is by fighting other men. He'll use you as a pawn in his imagery chess game.
I generally agree with you, but in todays society, its not a viable advice.

See my responses below.

1. still in touch ( pun intended) with her ex. What was he was doing there? This alone can be an entire book: Women always have somebody, they're never alone, either an ex or multiple orbiters, but they're always fvcking with somebody.

2. No counter offer. This is what we call a soft next: This is the only advice that matters.

3. It's a silent threat. She basically warns you that her ex won't think twice to use violence: A call to the cops is 5 secs away, also, nobody gives you the guarantee that some other ex, will do something with a different woman, that's very rare these days.

4. 4. Ofcourse it tells something about her. Needless to say imo. She loves drama: AWALT (All Women Are Like That), all women love drama, its in their DNA, men fail to realize this and they end up in dead bedrooms. The trick is to give her good drama.
 

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I've lost count of the number of women I've given a hard pass because she has a crazy @ss exe.

Pay very close attention to the kinds of men she lets in her life... it says two things about these women... her inability to screen out men that are no good (poor decision making) and the kinds of men she is attracted too.

The average man sees an attractive woman that appears to be great... but she has a crazy exe, and they think they can 'save her' and she will appreciate it. Understand this... she is attracted to the 'crazy sh1t', and unless you are crazy... ready to deliver drama... she will lose interest in you. In the near term... yes she will appreciate the fact that you are a stable normal 'good' man, but that does not last....

After a while, she will get bored of you... she likes the crazy... and she will start trying to trigger you so that you can emotionally stimulate her. Why? Because she is comfortable with chaos. She will try to make you crazy... and one of three things is going to happen (1) She will success and you will join her other exes on the pile of ex-crazy dudes. (2) She will do this until you've had enough and leave, then you become one of the a-hole exes that abandoned her. (3) You will stick it out like a fvcking idiot and will be miserable until your end of days.

Of course the best option is to NOT get involved with this woman in the first place. But if you lose emotional self-control and do, option (2) is the best.

Remember this axiom. The number of exes she has is directly proportional to the level of difficulty you are signing up for.
 

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I've lost count of the number of women I've given a hard pass because she has a crazy @ss exe.

Pay very close attention to the kinds of men she lets in her life... it says two things about these women... her inability to screen out men that are no good (poor decision making) and the kinds of men she is attracted too.

The average man sees an attractive woman that appears to be great... but she has a crazy exe, and they think they can 'save her' and she will appreciate it. Understand this... she is attracted to the 'crazy sh1t', and unless you are crazy... ready to deliver drama... she will lose interest in you. In the near term... yes she will appreciate the fact that you are a stable normal 'good' man, but that does not last....

After a while, she will get bored of you... she likes the crazy... and she will start trying to trigger you so that you can emotionally stimulate her. Why? Because she is comfortable with chaos. She will try to make you crazy... and one of three things is going to happen (1) She will success and you will join her other exes on the pile of ex-crazy dudes. (2) She will do this until you've had enough and leave, then you become one of the a-hole exes that abandoned her. (3) You will stick it out like a fvcking idiot and will be miserable until your end of days.

Of course the best option is to NOT get involved with this woman in the first place. But if you lose emotional self-control and do, option (2) is the best.

Remember this axiom. The number of exes she has is directly proportional to the level of difficulty you are signing up for.

IMO, this was not a real situation with her ex...this was just something that was c convenient excuse to not meet up with a guy she didn't want to see again.
 

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I've lost count of the number of women I've given a hard pass because she has a crazy @ss exe.
You didn't even fvck them cause you were scared of some ex?

The average man sees an attractive woman that appears to be great... but she has a crazy exe, and they think they can 'save her' and she will appreciate it. Understand this... she is attracted to the 'crazy sh1t', and unless you are crazy... ready to deliver drama... she will lose interest in you. In the near term... yes she will appreciate the fact that you are a stable normal 'good' man, but that does not last...
That's why a HVM doesn't give commitment to those types of women, he uses them for his pleasure

Of course the best option is to NOT get involved with this woman in the first place
This advice is bad, and even for men who are incels, they will look for the "perfect" girl to be involved with. Nobody givesd you the guarantee the next woman is "fine". The same party girl in the 20s who was fvcking chad, is the same wholesome girl in their 30s.
 

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I generally agree with you, but in todays society, its not a viable advice.

See my responses below.

1. still in touch ( pun intended) with her ex. What was he was doing there? This alone can be an entire book: Women always have somebody, they're never alone, either an ex or multiple orbiters, but they're always fvcking with somebody.

2. No counter offer. This is what we call a soft next: This is the only advice that matters.

3. It's a silent threat. She basically warns you that her ex won't think twice to use violence: A call to the cops is 5 secs away, also, nobody gives you the guarantee that some other ex, will do something with a different woman, that's very rare these days.

4. 4. Ofcourse it tells something about her. Needless to say imo. She loves drama: AWALT (All Women Are Like That), all women love drama, its in their DNA, men fail to realize this and they end up in dead bedrooms. The trick is to give her good drama.
Even though women always have someone lurking in the background, IF she has one ounce of respect for you she will keep it to her self.

I'm paranoid enough to suspect her of even Google-ing such a picture. I mean, it's a matter of cleaning and moving on( she would need t9 clean it either way )

You can call the cops, but in the heat of the moment the pigs won't be there to save you. Her ex might see a unfamiliar car and it's game on. I ha this happen to me a couple of times, and the worst time a dude tried to actually shoot me ( guns are prohibited here) .

As I said , when a man catches his actual wife /ltr cheating he'll oftentimes release his anger towards the man. But the man might not even be aware she was occupied. And don't be surprised when it's all said and done that he will also stay with her...
 

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I've lost count of the number of women I've given a hard pass because she has a crazy @ss exe.
I've lost count of the number of women who call me their 'crazy ex' ;)
 

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I've lost count of the number of women who call me their 'crazy ex' ;)
My exes usually call me a 'narcissist'.

Which I suppose is true to a certain extent. I always put myself first (if a man is not straight with himself first, he is no good to anyone else) my kids are close second (because if they are a mess... your life is hell constantly bailing them out), my career and finances a close third, the woman is a distant 4th. I am not willing to tolerate 'drama', when things start looking more like work and less like drama free fun... I am gone. Too many women want to land a man that is willing to take on her cr@p, which, in exchange, she doles out sex like Scooby snacks.

I suppose if you are unwilling to sign up that bullsh!t you are a narcissist.
 

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My exes usually call me a 'narcissist'.

Which I suppose is true to a certain extent. I always put myself first (if a man is not straight with himself first, he is no good to anyone else) my kids are close second (because if they are a mess... your life is hell constantly bailing them out), my career and finances a close third, the woman is a distant 4th. I am not willing to tolerate 'drama', when things start looking more like work and less like drama free fun... I am gone. Too many women want to land a man that is willing to take on her cr@p, which, in exchange, she doles out sex like Scooby snacks.

I suppose if you are unwilling to sign up that bullsh!t you are a narcissist.
Oh, I've had a few exes that exaggerated my dark triad traits. Which is also why I scoff at members here calling their exes 'psycho' or 'BPD'. Shows so clearly they have no idea what personality disorders are really like.

It's not that you put her last because you don't love her, but where your other priorities are. When you learn First Aid, you don't rush to a victim without making sure you are safe from whatever turned the victim into a victim. And you make sure you're not dealing with a honeypot. You have to prioritise yourself, or you're no good to anybody.

So, of course your children and provisions are your second priority and third the protection for other adults. And in that, you should prioritise your woman before other adults.

That is common sense. You will be there for her, but she should be able to take care of herself without depending on you to bail her out.
 
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