Is the world upside down?

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

Since I am getting back to the game, after two months I found out that today there is a toxic culture.

Since I approach women, I found out so many men trying to blame me, try to put me down, trying to let me beleve that I am doing something immoral. These kind of men are the exactly same kind of men who are rude, toxic, manipulative.

If I am a positive and gentle man, I found that a lot of these men think this like a "good opportunity" to blame the "weak guy" and find a moment of glory by bulling him in a psciological way. That exact man get triggered when see me approach a woman, getting much more aggressive.

The message basically is "bully the good and positive people, and blame their moral if they approach a woman".

So basically to bully people is moral and to approach women is immoral?

What's wrong with the world? Is messed up. The man I described is not an isolated case, is basically what most men are today. Insecure men who try to bully whoever they can, and who don't have the courage to approach women, morally blaiming who do.

The world is upside down.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

What's wrong with the world? Is messed up. The man I described is not an isolated case, is basically what most men are today. Insecure men who try to bully whoever they can, and who don't have the courage to approach women, morally blaiming who do.

So, what actually happened? How did they try to bully you? How much of the world is wrong and how much is in your mind?

 

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

So, what actually happened? How did they try to bully you? How much of the world is wrong and how much is in your mind?

I would ask, how much is in your mind? I am finding that in this forum, which should be a healthy place to discuss incouraging each other to get better with women, bit most of the time, most men answers are just wrote to the only purpose to invalid your point or to make you doubt of your "cognitive mind" telling you basiccaly : are you sure? Is not that is just your imagination?

These kind of men freeze the men talk, this is a forum built to discuss and become better people, not to put other down by just trying to shame your point without any other point of view. Yes my man, you, that wrote this reply, you are exactly that kind of man I was describing before.

I would encourage other men to ignore this kind of men, and do not be ashame to bring your point of view and open a civil discussion. These kind of reply is the exactly reason why a lot of people are afraid to show tjeir own opinion. The reason is that there are olanty of men who wouldnjust punish your intention of growing, because they are even more scared than you, so insecure, that need to put you down.

Be brave guys

 

[BPH]

I would ask, how much is in your mind? I am finding that in this forum, which should be a healthy place to discuss incouraging each other to get better with women, bit most of the time, most men answers are just wrote to the only purpose to invalid your point or to make you doubt of your "cognitive mind" telling you basiccaly : are you sure? Is not that is just your imagination?

These kind of men freeze the men talk, this is a forum built to discuss and become better people, not to put other down by just trying to shame your point without any other point of view. Yes my man, you, that wrote this reply, you are exactly that kind of man I was describing before.

I would encourage other men to ignore this kind of men, and do not be ashame to bring your point of view and open a civil discussion. These kind of reply is the exactly reason why a lot of people are afraid to show tjeir own opinion. The reason is that there are olanty of men who wouldnjust punish your intention of growing, because they are even more scared than you, so insecure, that need to put you down.

Be brave guys

You're actually insane. You have mental issues. I suggest you seek professional help.

Every post you make is about how men bully you, and how you're the "good guy", yet you can't describe any of these instances.

You're always the victim and act as if the way you're being treated comes out of nowhere from these men, never describing what YOU might've done.

Please leave the forum if you're going to be like this to people who are trying to help you.

 

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

You're actually insane. You have mental issues. I suggest you seek professional help.

Every post you make is about how men bully you, and how you're the "good guy", yet you can't describe any of these instances.

You're always the victim and act as if the way you're being treated comes out of nowhere from these men, never describing what YOU might've done.

Please leave the forum if you're going to be like this to people who are trying to help you.

In fact this is the point: "I have mental issue", this is how you help people? I think that probably the one who have mental issue is you, and you are exactley as those men who want to be the bully. You are just scared of being the last one, and instead to grow, you try to put down other people. I'll continue to discuss with the healthy people, and just black list the one as you. Bye

 

[Solomon]

Holy smokes this guy gives major Elliot Roger vibes sir please please please don't hurt anyone especially yourself, moderators get on your job!

 

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

Holy smokes this guy gives major Elliot Roger vibes sir please please please don't hurt anyone especially yourself, moderators get on your job!

Are you speaking about me?

 

[zekko]

If guys think or sense that you are weak, they will try to AMOG you, especially if there is a woman in the picture. This isn't only among humans, but throughout a lot of nature.

 

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

If guys think or sense that you are weak, they will try to AMOG you, especially if there is a woman in the picture. This isn't only among humans, but throughout a lot of nature.

thanks

 

[BPH]

In fact this is the point: "I have mental issue", this is how you help people? I think that probably the one who have mental issue is you, and you are exactley as those men who want to be the bully. You are just scared of being the last one, and instead to grow, you try to put down other people. I'll continue to discuss with the healthy people, and just black list the one as you. Bye

You are not a healthy person. Every post that challenges you in the slightest is seen as a threat and disregarded - even when those responses are the ones that will help you grow.

You want to exist as a victim in an echo chamber with other victims confirming your worldview that the men who supposedly bully and hate you are only doing so because you are growing above them - yet you're the one here with the dating problems.

You have never described what you MIGHT be doing that offends these people, nor do you describe HOW they're bullying you; one of your posts was about how a gym employee was giving you a tour and "constantly trying to make you look and feel bad" - this is not real, a person like this would be fired. It is in their best interest to show you the positives of their facility so they can get you to sign on.

@AmsterdamAssassin to my knowledge (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) provides counseling/therapy services, and you just called him a bully for asking you to self-reflect. If that is the standard for all these men "bullying" you, then no wonder you deem so many others as "enemies".

You are a toxic person and a perpetual victim. You cannot be helped because constructive criticism is discarded in favor of validation of your current situation.

 

[Clockwerk50]

You seem to have an unrealistic expectation that people should treat you a certain way simply because you believe you deserve it. When things don’t go your way, you cry foul without any real justification. There’s a certain arrogance, insecurity, hypersensitivity, and lack of self-awareness in your post.

If you want to be treated with the status, respect, and power, maybe start acting like a king to be treated like one, which is the opposite you are doing right now.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

@AmsterdamAssassin to my knowledge (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) provides counseling/therapy services, and you just called him a bully for asking you to self-reflect. If that is the standard for all these men "bullying" you, then no wonder you deem so many others as "enemies".

This is one of the reasons why I asked specifics. Not everybody defines 'bullying' the same way. People can bully you in different ways. Overt or covert. But the fact that someone gets defensive and lashes out against perceived slights could be an indication that the bullying may be imaginary. Doesn't mean someone is delusional, it can also be a side effect of PTSD.

...do not be ashame to bring your point of view and open a civil discussion.

Any open and civil discussion needs to have the facts on the table. How are you bullied? Are you being openly mocked or sabotaged? Gossip? Are you being physically hurt or is the bullying psychological? And are you sure you're being targeted or is there a chance you're misinterpreting neutral actions negatively? Just saying you're being bullied is too vague. This way you come across as someone who just wants attention by playing the victim instead of getting actual help.

 

[Alucard88Cool forum!]

You seem to have an unrealistic expectation that people should treat you a certain way simply because you believe you deserve it. When things don’t go your way, you cry foul without any real justification. There’s a certain arrogance, insecurity, hypersensitivity, and lack of self-awareness in your post.

If you want to be treated with the status, respect, and power, maybe start acting like a king to be treated like one, which is the opposite you are doing right now.

I just think that society teach people very unhealthy way to behave, maybe is me who deserve that men are aggressive. But once I put them in their place, they start to behave even aggresier. So in basically a never ending game. Bullyes are just bully, and they only deserve to be ignored, but even ignoring them trigger in their insecurity a sense of lack, and sonthey need attentio by provoking. I am finding a lot eve here. But is ok, bully behavior over growth, i can understand that, its easyer. Thanks to make me reallizing it.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I just think that society teach people very unhealthy way to behave, maybe is me who deserve that men are aggressive. But once I put them in their place, they start to behave even aggresier. So in basically a never ending game. Bullyes are just bully, and they only deserve to be ignored, but even ignoring them trigger in their insecurity a sense of lack, and sonthey need attentio by provoking. I am finding a lot eve here. But is ok, bully behavior over growth, i can understand that, its easyer. Thanks to make me reallizing it.

 

[plumber]

I just think that society teach people very unhealthy way to behave, maybe is me who deserve that men are aggressive. But once I put them in their place, they start to behave even aggresier. So in basically a never ending game. Bullyes are just bully, and they only deserve to be ignored, but even ignoring them trigger in their insecurity a sense of lack, and sonthey need attentio by provoking. I am finding a lot eve here. But is ok, bully behavior over growth, i can understand that, its easyer. Thanks to make me reallizing it.

yea, this is the way it is sometimes. zekko gave you the answer. what to do about it is what you probably want to ask.

some suggest its in your mind only, while at the same time it can actually happen like you tell. notice how several circle around you to "bully" you even in an online forum....

what you never can know is what is in the mind of them. it could be evil and it also can be them trying to be wise to help you, or they just human like you and have own issues...

regardless the solution is for you and only you to do. if you don't have any other solution do this:

1. lift heavy.
2. join a martial arts gym(boxing, bjj, mma) and force yourself to do it until its fun for you.
3. take a couple of psychology classes. if your budget is small coursera.org has some free ones that are decent good and online.

do these thing and 99% chance you will have a different viewpoint in the future and more self confidence. if you want to do these things and don't know how or how to start probably the men in this forum will suggest how if you ask.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

So, what actually happened? How did they try to bully you? How much of the world is wrong and how much is in your mind?

Who's bullying who exactly?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Upside down...boy ya turn me...inside out...round and round...

 

[New_Journey]

So, what actually happened? How did they try to bully you? How much of the world is wrong and how much is in your mind?

Is this bully in the room with is right now? @Alucard88Cool forum!

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Upside down...boy ya turn me...inside out...round and round...

The single before "I'm Coming Out", no less...

 

[BaronOfHair]

Every post you make is about how men bully you, and how you're the "good guy", yet you can't describe any of these instances.

You're always the victim and act as if the way you're being treated comes out of nowhere from these men, never describing what YOU might've done

Goes to a topic discussed a while back https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...on-the-looks-scale.282469/page-2#post-3123558

At long last, men in America have developed their own version of the self-sabotaging mindset which has hindered the progress of non-whites and gays, from the late 60s-the present